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Oooh, heated seats! I have them in my 987.1 and they are lovely! Never had them in a car before and my wife tells me that we will have them in every car we ever have in the future. 

 

I particularly like the two-stage heating; one press for HOT and a second press for less hot. Full temperature is pretty hot. If a Corsa has hotter ones then you must be able to fry an egg on them. 

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Heated seats make sense in a convertible. Just add that extra layer of comfort

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You guys should see the list of options I've now written down after your stellar advice for when I go and look over the next few weeks!

The must-have list so far is

2.9 -3.4 Gen 2 (3.4 for an easy way to get power with lower revs)

Heated seats (keep the wife and take-aways warm)

Sat-nav with aux input if possible

Sport-sport plus with paddle shift if I don't go manual

18-19" alloys

Sports exhaust if possible.

Full leather if possible.

Again guys I can't thank you enough, I'm taking my time looking and I'm in no major rush to buy it although I'd buy the right car tommorow if it came up. Technically I'm not supposed to get it till my 45th birthday in June but rules are made to be broken (the rebel is still in me 🤓😂)

If a members car comes up for sale I'l happily take a look at that too as I'd rather buy from someone on here who I know has looked after there car and no one looks after there cars better than owners on fan forums in my experience.

I'l keep this thread updated with the cars I'm looking at either in the flesh or online for your valued opinions, when I've finally bought one I shall happily buy EVERYONE a beer at the next Boxster car meet-up or rally.

Thanks again. Chris.

 

 

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I would also go with cruise control ....... although retro fitting is not expensive ...... and rear parking sensors are well worth it ...... good luck with your hunt for the right car.

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Not sure if cruise is an easy/cheap retrofit on the .2. Rear parking definitely but you can buy £30 kits for that, don’t reject a great car that doesn’t have it. 

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Hi folks,

Just to throw my tuppenceworth in....

I can't disagree with any of the spec suggestions I have them all in my car and they all make a difference.

It isn't that difficult to replace the standard head unit with something modern. I did mine, Unit, cabling and fitting was £630. I sold the pcm on Ebay for £250 so £380 was the real cost.

Re the sports exhaust I fitted a Carnewal replacement, basically you pay your money and a deposit, they send you one you fit it and send your exhaust back to them, they return your deposit. Sounds great and liberates a few more horses.

We have endless debates on here about 987.1 and bore score etc. I am into the third year of ownership on mine. It is a daily driver and (touch wood) it has been faultless.

987.1 3.4s really aren't a lot of money for what you can get.

Kevin

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Chris,

 

The options you look out for are entirely up to you; the perfect car for you may exist but you could be waiting a while for it to come up for sale. The more flexible you are the more likely you will have one on your drive to celebrate your 45th birthday! 

 

FWIW I went through a similar exercise 18 months ago as I needed something ULEZ compliant (I live in London) and my car then wasn't. My criteria were as follows; 

 

- 987.1 2.7 manual Cayman. Didn't want to stretch to the 987.2 model (although they sounded better), didn't want the (significant) extra running cost and bore score concern of the 3.4 engine. I did a lot of research and it seemed that while the 987.2's had a better design of engine then the 987.1 2.7 was pretty robust and more than enough for me. 

- Mileage not very important. I've learned not to look at this when looking at cars - condition is everything

- Mechanical condition had to be excellent with impeccable service history. I was happy to take on something that needed a bit of work if I was able to DIY it, but something with gaps in the service history or with poor repairs after accident damage was a no-no. 

- Had to have a full leather interior. This mattered a lot to me. 

- Strong preference to have something with a non-black interior. 

- Strong preference for a car which wasn't black, silver or red outside. (I really really didn't want a black car with a black interior). 

- Wheels. I didn't care as I knew I would be fitting 17 inch wheels as they drive SO much better on smaller ones. 

- Climate control / cruise control / stereo / everything else didn't bother me - I'd take what comes. 

 

I was happy to look nationwide and could be patient. As it was I looked at one car locally which would have fitted the bill but didn't really excite me (silver outside, black inside) and I decided not to go for it. After about 11 months a better option came up and I bought it. It was grey with a very red interior. It was unusual in that it had a very odd set of options, as follows; 

 

- Sports Chrono. Very rare option and expensive which amounts to a stopwatch on the dashboard and a more aggressive throttle map. Frankly not worth it, although some people seem very keen on it. This may be different on a tiptronic / PDK car. 

- PASM (Porsche Active Suspension Management - i.e. adaptive suspension). Again, rare and expensive when new. Again, I wouldn't seek this out on a second-hand car as I am not sure what it adds, plus replacement PASM dampers are more expensive than normal ones. 

- Sports heated seats. These are quite nice. Would I actively look for a car with them? Probably not but I would pay a little more for a car with them. 

- Parking sensors. Useful but not essential and easily added later, as menoporsche says. 

- Xenon lights. Simply excellent. Reading the forums it sounds like the standard lights are not good but easily improved with LED bulbs, so it's not worth holding out for Xenons. 

- 18inch wheels. Pretty awful. Swapped to 17 inch ones and it's a great improvement. Certainly wouldn't pay more for larger wheels. 

- White-faced dials. Again, pretty awful. The white faces will be peeled off as soon as I get a screwdriver of the correct type to get the binnacle apart. 

- Basic stereo. I was surprised at just how poor this sounded. However it turned out to be a blessing in disguise as it's a much easier (and cheaper) base for installing a nicer stereo, which I have done. SSP (Sound System Plus) and BOSE systems require expensive adaptors when you fit an aftermarket stereo (which you will want to do if you want bluetooth integration). A separate amplifier and better speakers are on my 'to do' list for any new car. 

 

It's well worth paying for a pre-purchase inspection at a Porsche specialist before you buy. I did this and a few issues were picked up. Having the then-owner present at the inspection meant that he could see everything wrong with his car and gave me a very good haggling position. 

 

I found that Caymans were quite slow to sell and I watched a number of them not sell on eBay and Autotrader and be re-listed at lower and lower prices. Don't over-pay for something as they don't seem to be worth as much as sellers would like to think. I don't know if the same applies to Boxsters. Odd colour combinations (such as that which I was looking for) seemed to harder to sell than the more popular ones and helped me get a bargain, but I am aware that this will make it harder for me to sell when that day eventually comes. 

 

All the best with the hunt. If you do find something that looks good then I'd be quite happy to come and eyeball it with you (or to have a first look if it's too far away from you). I'm in East London. 

 

Oli. 

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Also worth adding (although it applies to any car purchase): I wanted a private sale as I wanted to meet the previous owner. Nice people have nice cars and if you buy from a dealer you don't get to see who previously owned it. 

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1 hour ago, pezzzer1975 said:

 

The must-have list so far is

2.9 -3.4 Gen 2 (3.4 for an easy way to get power with lower revs)

Heated seats (keep the wife and take-aways warm)

Sat-nav with aux input if possible

Sport-sport plus with paddle shift if I don't go manual

18-19" alloys

Sports exhaust if possible.

Full leather if possible.

Looks like a good sensible list. I'd prioritise the things that don't have a good value (cheap) upgrade path so heated seats and sports Chrono (sport buttons) if you go pdk. I can't stress how rubbish the pdk is without sport mode on! Totally different car. 

Aux input is nice

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Just to add - my 2011 987.2 came with sat nav. Pretty useless in the UK because it wouldn't take the full UK postcode. Unlike a cheap Tom-tom, etc. Until I got it upgraded - which can cost a fortune at a dealer. But it has a USB input which is brilliant. A USB stick has all the music I want - over 50 CDs ripped to MP3 - and displays all the artist and track information.

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1 hour ago, DaveEFI said:

Just to add - my 2011 987.2 came with sat nav. Pretty useless in the UK because it wouldn't take the full UK postcode. Unlike a cheap Tom-tom, etc. Until I got it upgraded - which can cost a fortune at a dealer. But it has a USB input which is brilliant. A USB stick has all the music I want - over 50 CDs ripped to MP3 - and displays all the artist and track information.

What was involved in the sat nav upgrade Dave?

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I have PCM3.0 in mine too - the sat nav works fine with partial postcode if you know the street you are aiming for.

if you are aiming for a hotel in the middle of the cotswolds - it’s not so good as it just takes you to the centre of the postcode!! 🤦‍♂️

you just need to know when to use it and when to use google maps - personally I prefer the OEM look so replacing the headunit with a 3rd party wasn’t an option for me, but others prefer a new head unit.

i also have the ASK system which is plenty loud enough for me to embarrass my daughter when taking her to college 🤣

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2 hours ago, Camels said:

What was involved in the sat nav upgrade Dave?

Basically loading in new code via the CD player. Which takes several hours - and you need a dealer code to install the upgrade too. But I now also have up to date maps.

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54 minutes ago, Mattman42 said:

I have PCM3.0 in mine too - the sat nav works fine with partial postcode if you know the street you are aiming for.

if you are aiming for a hotel in the middle of the cotswolds - it’s not so good as it just takes you to the centre of the postcode!! 🤦‍♂️

you just need to know when to use it and when to use google maps - personally I prefer the OEM look so replacing the headunit with a 3rd party wasn’t an option for me, but others prefer a new head unit.

i also have the ASK system which is plenty loud enough for me to embarrass my daughter when taking her to college 🤣

To me, not much point in having a built in navigation system if you have to supplement it with a phone or whatever. 😀

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The whole point of built-in navigation in cars seems a bit lost to me, given that technology moves on much more quickly than cars. Pretty much ANY smartphone now will be more advanced technologically than any sat nav in a car more than 12 months old. Relying on the technology in your car if it is more than two or three years old seems pointless given that you will almost certainly have better technology in your pocket while driving the car. 

 

I believe that smaller cars these days have in-car tech that is pretty much 'dumb', but allows you to plug your 'phone in and hence use that on the dashboard screen - Apple CarPlay is one such thing. This is very cheap for the car manufacturer to make and sell and will always be as smart as the 'phone that is plugged into it, which seems like a good idea to me. The other end of the scale - namely expensive in-car sat nav systems which cost a lot but date very quickly seems a bit daft. 

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3 hours ago, Mattman42 said:

I have PCM3.0 in mine too - the sat nav works fine with partial postcode if you know the street you are aiming for.

if you are aiming for a hotel in the middle of the cotswolds - it’s not so good as it just takes you to the centre of the postcode!! 🤦‍♂️

you just need to know when to use it and when to use google maps - personally I prefer the OEM look so replacing the headunit with a 3rd party wasn’t an option for me, but others prefer a new head unit.

I never ever used the postcode input on mine, always easier to search town then street IMO....

that said I havent used the PCM for ages as I have appointments in Google calendar and so phone mounted in car is far more accurate and simpler than resorting to PCM thats now out of date (2012 maps IIRC)

I'd always advocate PCM in a new car (agree on OEM look), now I'm not so sure to be honest...certainly wouldnt worry too much in an older vehicle if looking for one

if my PCM went kaput I'd possibly install an Andriod aftermarket unit instead (as I might on a second hand car purchase too)

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