Simo_UK Posted April 12, 2021 Report Share Posted April 12, 2021 Do it! Test drives start today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenman Posted April 12, 2021 Report Share Posted April 12, 2021 22 hours ago, daz05 said: My take is the 981 GTS cars seem to be more susceptible to this than the earlier 981s there definitely appears to be a bad batch circulating around the 2014/15 build dates. Plenty of early 981s have sports chrono fitted but there doesn't seem to be the same failure rate and certainly not so early in their life. When I've seen failures on earlier cars they have been at higher mileage. Not sure on the 718 cars. I suspect the only reason for GTSs seeming more susceptible is that: all GTSs have sport chrono; GTSs started around the time that there appears to be some dodgy batches. So I suspect a similar year standard car with Chrono would have just the same chance of failure. Note: I have a ‘15S and have had both drivechain mounts replaced under warranty. I’ve had no issues with the replacements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz05 Posted April 12, 2021 Report Share Posted April 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Greenman said: I suspect the only reason for GTSs seeming more susceptible is that: all GTSs have sport chrono; GTSs started around the time that there appears to be some dodgy batches. So I suspect a similar year standard car with Chrono would have just the same chance of failure. Note: I have a ‘15S and have had both drivechain mounts replaced under warranty. I’ve had no issues with the replacements. I can't say for sure because I don't have the stats but I guess there is a significant number of non GTS 981 cars with it fitted and there are more of them overall because they were on sale for longer. The difference seems to be when they failed, the GTS failures all seemed to earlier in the cycle. I know of a handful of earlier 981s with it fitted with mileage ranging between 30 and 60k, all as far as we can tell are still on the original parts. You could now argue the GTS could be less susceptible since many have been changed out. One thing for sure it seems that they will all fail at some point, the wiring harness and connection being exposed to the elements makes me wonder if moisture is causing the lack of communication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenman Posted April 12, 2021 Report Share Posted April 12, 2021 2 hours ago, daz05 said: One thing for sure it seems that they will all fail at some point Humm...not sure that’s true. Although it does seem there is a higher failure rate than you would like there are plenty of higher mileage 981s and 991s that haven’t needed a change. Maybe the weather access is a failure reason I don’t know, what was suggested to me by the OPC technician was that the design had been tweaked to solve the issue, so certainly extra weather protection is something that could easily have been added, but how much truth there is in this I can’t be certain. I am hoping that there has been a tweak as that bodes better for my situation having had both replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz05 Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 8 hours ago, Greenman said: Humm...not sure that’s true. Although it does seem there is a higher failure rate than you would like there are plenty of higher mileage 981s and 991s that haven’t needed a change. Maybe the weather access is a failure reason I don’t know, what was suggested to me by the OPC technician was that the design had been tweaked to solve the issue, so certainly extra weather protection is something that could easily have been added, but how much truth there is in this I can’t be certain. I am hoping that there has been a tweak as that bodes better for my situation having had both replaced. Hope you are right because you know I run mine without warranty! Would hopefully qualify for some good will say least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSMarky Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 Can we check if these have been changed with Porsche? I have a service next week at Dovehouse, so will ask them to have a look too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz05 Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, GTSMarky said: Can we check if these have been changed with Porsche? I have a service next week at Dovehouse, so will ask them to have a look too. If you fancy poking your head under the car right at the back, it's actually easier than it sounds, you may find a date stamp on the units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patt Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 Had both my mounts replaced between 30-40K. Seems a common issue, just like the brake pedal. That white one was very poorly cleaned pre sale pictures - wheel barrels not touched and dirty rag over interior. Not what you should expect for a premium car. Do some homework on what is standard, and what options are must have Vs nice to have/could be retro fitted. Drive both manual and PDK - both are great but not to everyone's taste. Good luck with your search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSMarky Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 6 hours ago, daz05 said: If you fancy poking your head under the car right at the back, it's actually easier than it sounds, you may find a date stamp on the units. Where am I looking then Daz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz05 Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 30 minutes ago, GTSMarky said: Where am I looking then Daz? Literally right behind your back boxes on either side they are cylinder shaped with a wiring harness attached. https://images.app.goo.gl/pwV9WHZ8MPujPjUX8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurassicBGTS Posted April 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 8 hours ago, Patt said: Had both my mounts replaced between 30-40K. Seems a common issue, just like the brake pedal. That white one was very poorly cleaned pre sale pictures - wheel barrels not touched and dirty rag over interior. Not what you should expect for a premium car. Do some homework on what is standard, and what options are must have Vs nice to have/could be retro fitted. Drive both manual and PDK - both are great but not to everyone's taste. Good luck with your search. Patt, your OCD....like me👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robporsche Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 (edited) Emerson park and Romford pretty much next door to each other, i actually have a office in Romford and not a fan of imperial I looked at a RS4 a few years ago and I wasnt impressed if i was honest with you on how they displayed the cars and well the S3 that was on axle stands having both the brakes painted and the leather being repaired in the middle of the forecourt. I dont like to sl*g anyone off but I can only say what i saw back then and it was a couple of years back. If you do go for it, i would definately get a proper full inspection done beforehand. sorry Edited April 13, 2021 by robporsche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofi Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 10 hours ago, Patt said: Had both my mounts replaced between 30-40K. Seems a common issue, just like the brake pedal. Interesting discussion on the failure rate. Touching wood mine is a 2013 car on 55k and pretty sure they’re original Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMA Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, lofi said: Interesting discussion on the failure rate. Touching wood mine is a 2013 car on 55k and pretty sure they’re original 2013 car here too but on 46k and all good so far (famous last words!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo_UK Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 My 2012 Boxster S (with Sports Chrono) had no.issues My 2015 Cayman GTS has had one replaced. Further random numbers for you 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSMarky Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 16 hours ago, daz05 said: Literally right behind your back boxes on either side they are cylinder shaped with a wiring harness attached. https://images.app.goo.gl/pwV9WHZ8MPujPjUX8 Thank you Daz, you're a star! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSMarky Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 The car is on the drive so I can just lift it up on a puck if I can't see & yes I'll put something under too.. Safety 1st...Safety 2nd.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSMarky Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 14 hours ago, robporsche said: S3 that was on axle stands having both the brakes painted and the leather being repaired in the middle of the forecourt. Wow & that would stick in my mind too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz05 Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 19 minutes ago, GTSMarky said: The car is on the drive so I can just lift it up on a puck if I can't see & yes I'll put something under too.. Safety 1st...Safety 2nd.. While you are taking a look let me know if you share my view that the connector is potentially quite exposed to the elements? Probably doesn't apply to the new vehicle, low mileage replacements but after 50k it could be a weak spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofi Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 Do the mounts operate the same on the GTS as on the S with SC? My understanding is the S activates the stuff mounts in sport plus. Is that the same in the GTS or do they activate is say sport suggesting more usage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz05 Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 hour ago, lofi said: Do the mounts operate the same on the GTS as on the S with SC? My understanding is the S activates the stuff mounts in sport plus. Is that the same in the GTS or do they activate is say sport suggesting more usage? They are apparently active in Sport and Sport Plus across all models with them fitted. I can't verify that but so I read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patt Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 to me they are active all the time, and like the PASM, stiffer as the mode buttons increase. I could certainly feel when one was faulty whilst driving in normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSMarky Posted April 15, 2021 Report Share Posted April 15, 2021 On 4/14/2021 at 1:07 PM, daz05 said: They are apparently active in Sport and Sport Plus across all models with them fitted. I can't verify that but so I read. I forget about the Sports + button as it's just brutal on the road! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurassicBGTS Posted April 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2021 On 4/13/2021 at 8:03 PM, robporsche said: Emerson park and Romford pretty much next door to each other, i actually have a office in Romford and not a fan of imperial I looked at a RS4 a few years ago and I wasnt impressed if i was honest with you on how they displayed the cars and well the S3 that was on axle stands having both the brakes painted and the leather being repaired in the middle of the forecourt. I dont like to sl*g anyone off but I can only say what i saw back then and it was a couple of years back. If you do go for it, i would definately get a proper full inspection done beforehand. sorry Thanks Rob for your insight into the garage. Not good. Agree with Patt, the car hasn't been well prepared for the sale photos, although a lot of garages do not prepare fully until the car has been sold...including Porsche sometimes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurassicBGTS Posted April 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2021 37 minutes ago, GTSMarky said: I forget about the Sports + button as it's just brutal on the road! 😛😛😛 Sounds great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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