Christopher2110 Posted July 17, 2021 Report Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) Has anyone replaced their gauge faces in the 986? The needle is off but there is a small black disc which appears to hold the face in place. It's very brittle (don't ask how I found out) 😶 and looks like it should be pinched together to remove. Ideas? Edited July 17, 2021 by Christopher2110 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher2110 Posted July 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2021 So managed to get it off and all back together. Needle was slightly off the 0 mark with ignition on so took off again and back in the right place. Now the needle has gone floppy and just moves around on its own 😑 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted July 17, 2021 Report Share Posted July 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Christopher2110 said: So managed to get it off and all back together. Needle was slightly off the 0 mark with ignition on so took off again and back in the right place. Now the needle has gone floppy and just moves around on its own 😑 Not a user servable part? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher2110 Posted July 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2021 2 hours ago, ½cwt said: Not a user servable part? I feel I may of just been a little heavy handed. You can get a stepper/ pointer motor replacement which I would assume is the part that is now broken as the needle spins almost 360 and then gets some resistance but will then spin almost 360 again but in the opposite direction. But to access the motor all the other needles need to come off to remove the circuitboard from the back. So it's back on the car for now until I pluck up the courage! Until then I have a very cool looking broken gauge! Hopefully someone else is able to suggest something to try in the meantime 🤞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher2110 Posted July 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2021 Video that actually works unlike above.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted July 17, 2021 Report Share Posted July 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Christopher2110 said: ...... You can get a stepper/ pointer motor replacement .... From Porsche?? It isn't a listed part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher2110 Posted July 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2021 1 hour ago, ½cwt said: From Porsche?? It isn't a listed part. No not from Porsche. Although I haven’t rang them yet, but like normal it’s just a standard part across VW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iborguk Posted July 17, 2021 Report Share Posted July 17, 2021 Don't know if any good, see 986 listed. https://store.minitools.com/en/sei-mot10-b-stepper-motor-for-mercedes-porsche-ruf-smart-dashboards-clockwise.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted July 18, 2021 Report Share Posted July 18, 2021 14 hours ago, Christopher2110 said: No not from Porsche. Although I haven’t rang them yet, but like normal it’s just a standard part across VW Good luck and I hope it works out. Sourcing the correct salvage cluster is tricky and a new on for just this would be wallet cringing but 15% off parts for Porsche Classic Register members if the OPC fits !! Hope it doesn't come to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher2110 Posted July 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 Thanks @iborguk👍🏼 will drop them an email. On 7/18/2021 at 10:34 AM, ½cwt said: Good luck and I hope it works out. Sourcing the correct salvage cluster is tricky and a new on for just this would be wallet cringing but 15% off parts for Porsche Classic Register members if the OPC fits !! Hope it doesn't come to that. And yes, 2.7 seem readily available and a decent price, but for a 3.2 you need to double it and add another £20! Not sure how they justify it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlieboy2608 Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 On 7/17/2021 at 11:26 AM, Christopher2110 said: So managed to get it off and all back together. Needle was slightly off the 0 mark with ignition on so took off again and back in the right place. Now the needle has gone floppy and just moves around on its own 😑 Not totally helpful on my part but I'm sure gauges and needle repairs has been mentioned on Wheeler Dealers-it might be possible a few specialist facilities are located in the UK...A long shot but might be helpful if the gauge is U/S... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 I recall them using an outfit amusingly called ClusterFix in Coventry IIRC. Can't find them now but did find these: The Instrument Cluster Repair Specialist, Cluster Repairs UK Speedo Repair | Instrument Cluster Repair | Dashpod Repair | Cartronix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlieboy2608 Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 1 hour ago, ½cwt said: I recall them using an outfit amusingly called ClusterFix in Coventry IIRC. Can't find them now but did find these: The Instrument Cluster Repair Specialist, Cluster Repairs UK Speedo Repair | Instrument Cluster Repair | Dashpod Repair | Cartronix Good call 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher2110 Posted July 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 @charlieboy2608 @½cwt Just called them both.... First link - from £169 Second link - from £350! I did have to confirm with this one if I was getting a spanking new one from an OPC, but no, they just repair the fault. Might be rewatching Wheeler Dealers at this rate to find out who they use... 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher2110 Posted December 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 A bump to see if anyone has experienced similar or come across a fix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigfatfish Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 Ecutesting rebuild with lifetime guarantee for £170 iirc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlM Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 I’ve stripped one of these clusters and taking the PCB’s apart isn’t as bad as getting the dial faces off in my opinion. If it’s the little motor you are after I’ve got one from an 04 cluster, (green, blue & grey plugs) I can let you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanky Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 If you are swapping the dial faces anyway, you could use a 2.7 cluster as long as its the correct one. I can't see there been any differences in the stepper motors and all the Cal values that make it an S will be on the PCB with eeprom which you won't be changing. On a different subject, where did you get the yellow face from? I am looking for some replacement gauge faces for my 996 cluster swap, want the Oil and Volt gauge faces in the Boxster font. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher2110 Posted December 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, CarlM said: I’ve stripped one of these clusters and taking the PCB’s apart isn’t as bad as getting the dial faces off in my opinion. If it’s the little motor you are after I’ve got one from an 04 cluster, (green, blue & grey plugs) I can let you have. Yes I believe it is the motor, I was clearly a little heavy handed! If you would be willing to let it go I don’t mind paying obviously! 😁👍🏼 That’s a very good point @Sanky They’re considerably cheaper too. Let me dig out the link to the place I got it from when I get home tonight and I’ll let you know. They were great to deal with Thanks @Bigfatfish that seems like the going rate for a used unit too Edited December 10, 2021 by Christopher2110 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanky Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 These videos might help removing the needles. and this one, even though it’s for a TT but a good tip using teaspoons to get the needles off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlM Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 28 minutes ago, Christopher2110 said: Yes I believe it is the motor, I was clearly a little heavy handed! If you would be willing to let it go I don’t mind paying obviously! 😁👍🏼 Happy to let you have it, it seems to have two plastic tabs that push through the PCB and it’s soldered to the board in two places so I’ll need to take it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher2110 Posted December 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 Thanks for the links to the videos @Sanky I will study them over a beer Link here for the faces, WhatsApp is the best to use to communicate with them. I also think they're on Instagram. Cheers @CarlM Theres no immediate rush for it, as and when is fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlM Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 18 hours ago, Christopher2110 said: Cheers @CarlM Theres no immediate rush for it, as and when is fine I’ve removed the motor, it’s soldered in 4 places as per the photos and held in place by the two circular white studs on the reverse. https://imgur.com/a/INn6gLo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher2110 Posted December 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 Cheers 👍🏼😁 PM sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATM Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 There was a guy on here with a massive long build thread who lived in Wales. He did the dial faces on his. Was he named after some famous cyclist? Geriant Thomas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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