987 radio upgrade non Fiber optic

[Terry Mains]

Hi guys thanks for approving membership

My first Qs can any one advise on what’s available in the way of a radio upgrade for my 987 Gen 1.  Please 

Regards Terry

[Paul P]

Welcome. 

Fairly well trodden path and the answer are really what do you want, how hands on effigy etc

There an active thread running on this and a few in the how to section I think. 

Suggest start here 

 

Upgrade Stereo Head Unit https://www.BoXa.net/topic/95399-upgrade-stereo-head-unit/

[Dan888]

Hi @Terry Mains

I'm going through exactly the same at the moment and have done some research.

This is a great place to start;
https://incartec.co.uk/Porsche/Boxster-987/Stereo-Upgrade-Double-Din/Pioneer-Double-din

From here I navigated to the CDR-24 without Bose (I have the entry level system)

Then this seems to be the kit I need;
https://incartec.co.uk/product/Porsche-987-997-Single-Double-DIN-stereo-fitting-kit-CANBUS-IGNITION-SILVER-FK-9591-IGN

This will present a standard ISO socket to fit an after market head unit in to.

I considered the following 2 units;
  Pioneer SPH-DA160DAB (circa £350 GBP) (some great videos on YouTube)
  JVC KW-M560BT (circa £310 GBP)

JVC has no DAB so I'm going for the Pioneer even though I may not rig up DAB on day one. (need to research that a bit more)

This should give me;
  Bluetooth hands free phone calls
  Sat Nav via Android Auto
  Spotify and locally stored music (MP3 and FLAC)
  The ability to fit a reversing camera rather than try to retro fit parking sensors and drill the Bumper!
 

Edited August 9, 2022 by Dan888

[Menoporsche]

I'm also looking at this, sparked by Dan's finding of the DA160DAB.

My situation: 987.1, Bose, currently PCM2.1, no steering wheel controls.

My wants: 

Reliable unit, not a budget Chinese one. Fit and forget, don't want to change every 6 months.

Cheap as possible; everything for £400 would be nice but seems unlikely.

Hands free phone via speakers

Reverse camera

Apple carplay for satnav

Bose adaptor, fitting surround and harness

Phone charging – probably wired, I see several functions don't often work wireless/bluetooth

USB slot for music? Though for 10 years I rarely use music in that car. Maybe it will change. I don't keep music on my phone now, maybe that's an option.

No interest in Spotify as Portuguese mobile data packages are really mean.

So far I've got Dan's DA160 at €315 (but no USB card for music) and a Kenwood DMX5020DBS at €370. There is a Sony XAV-AX1005KIT but it's a bit odd, single DIN body but double DIN screen. and a Sony XAV-AX3250ANT for €355, which has physical buttons but seems to only work when the phone is cabled.

Ironically we'd get far more use of a new unit in the family Toyota, but in that case I've managed to screw a wireless charging iphone mount to a great place by the steering wheel, so that pretty much does the phone, satnav duties which is what I really want.  Reverse sensors in the Toyota work fine, but the Boxster ones have always been iffy.

 

and if I really want just hands-free phone, I can get a Mr12volt/Denison adaptor for about €160, which also has a USB socket (for music?) But it seemed to be half the price for a third of the functions, and you know, man maths...

Edited August 9, 2022 by Menoporsche

[Paul P]

6 minutes ago, Menoporsche said:

I'm also looking at this, sparked by Dan's finding of the DA160DAB.

My situation: 987.1, Bose, currently PCM2.1, no steering wheel controls.

My wants: 

Reliable unit, not a budget Chinese one. Fit and forget, don't want to change every 6 months.

Cheap as possible; everything for £400 would be nice but seems unlikely.

Hands free phone via speakers

Reverse camera

Apple carplay for satnav

Bose adaptor, fitting surround and harness

Phone charging – probably wired, I see several functions don't often work wireless/bluetooth

USB slot for music? Though for 10 years I rarely use music in that car. Maybe it will change. I don't keep music on my phone now, maybe that's an option.

No interest in Spotify as Portuguese mobile data packages are really mean.

So far I've got Dan's DA160 at €315 (but no USB card for music) and a Kenwood DMX5020DBS at €370. There is a Sony XAV-AX1005KIT but it's a bit odd, single DIN body but double DIN screen. and a Sony XAV-AX3250ANT for €355, which has physical buttons but seems to only work when the phone is cabled.

Ironically we'd get far more use of a new unit in the family Toyota, but in that case I've managed to screw a wireless charging iphone mount to a great place by the steering wheel, so that pretty much does the phone, satnav duties which is what I really want.  Reverse sensors in the Toyota work fine, but the Boxster ones have always been iffy.

 

and if I really want just hands-free phone, I can get a Mr12volt/Denison adaptor for about €160, which also has a USB socket (for music?) But it seemed to be half the price for a third of the functions, and you know, man maths...

Everything there doable.  Except I reckon the price.  The Bose adapter adds a chunk of money and you likely need an extra adapter for canbus signals for lights on,ignition on and perhaps reverse for triggering the switch to a camera.  those and the fascia kit are going to eat your 400 EUR before you get a head unit I think.  

 

And absolutely go for physical buttons, if you have steering wheel controls then maybe you could get away without but it's really difficult on the move to get to a volume button on a screen.   

[Menoporsche]

Thanks Paul I think you're right, it will be the adapters/fascia that kill the budget as much as anything else   Just seems crazy to spend 500+ on something I hardly use.  Perhaps I should just get the Mr12Volt and rely primarily on the voice instructions coming through the speakers. Doesn't get me a reverse cam though... 

Ah, tech...

[Paul P]

1 hour ago, Menoporsche said:

Thanks Paul I think you're right, it will be the adapters/fascia that kill the budget as much as anything else   Just seems crazy to spend 500+ on something I hardly use.  Perhaps I should just get the Mr12Volt and rely primarily on the voice instructions coming through the speakers. Doesn't get me a reverse cam though... 

Ah, tech...

But.  Do it once and do it right.  If you don’t put in what you want then it’s forever a compromise. Easy to say of course, but if it worth doing etc.  

me personally, either swallow it and get what you want or keep what you have.  
 

but that’s me.  

[BBB]

12 hours ago, Menoporsche said:

Thanks Paul I think you're right, it will be the adapters/fascia that kill the budget as much as anything else   Just seems crazy to spend 500+ on something I hardly use.  Perhaps I should just get the Mr12Volt and rely primarily on the voice instructions coming through the speakers. Doesn't get me a reverse cam though... 

Ah, tech...

I know they are unfashionable, but a £15 FM transmitter blue-toothed to my phone gives me Spotify (download a playlist @Menoporsche if your data package is tiny), Waze spoken instructions and even phone calls at a push (the microphone is limited). For the few times I use music in the car this works well and I’ll only spend the £600 to upgrade when something in the original equipment breaks. I also use a wireless charging phone holder to complete the setup.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bluetooth-Transmitter-ZeaLife-Wireless-Charging-black/

[Simon_R]

On 8/9/2022 at 8:42 PM, Menoporsche said:

Thanks Paul I think you're right, it will be the adapters/fascia that kill the budget as much as anything else   Just seems crazy to spend 500+ on something I hardly use.  Perhaps I should just get the Mr12Volt and rely primarily on the voice instructions coming through the speakers. Doesn't get me a reverse cam though... 

Ah, tech...

I’ve this fitted and it’s perfect for the times I use Nav and play music via my phone. 
 

Keep thinking be nice to have a double din ApplePlay unit but with the above and a Brodit bracket for the phone, it’s a hard sell even using man maths.