BoxstrAl

Near Bristol, Ta!

No indication of size, one engine had a chain rattle and the other a delaminating chain guide.

So finally got a reply from the garage.  They said the metal particles were ferrous/magnetic and they have had 3 9A1 engines with similar issues over 4 years.

Now this has really confused me as surely if the timing has stretched and the intermittent tick is the chain touching the casing then the metal particles should be non-ferrous ie alloy.

Ferrous particles indicate a bearing going or sprockets.  Think I'm going to run it for 500 miles and then get the oil inspected, lets hope it survives that long 😬

23 hours ago, JonSta said:

You can easily have a camshaft deviation test which will tell you how much difference there is between the crankshaft timing and the camshaft timing therefore how much stretch there is in the chain. 

Is there a diagnostic/OBD tool that’s available for that?  I know the PIWIS scanner will but that’s expensive!

Yes I think that's the next step, already had a rev range test done on purchase and no more than range 3 a couple of times a few years ago.  No they did not show me the oil, I've emailed them today for further clarification ie if they passed a magnet over it to check whether it was ferrous or not but no reply so far.

I'm probably looking at near to £2.5k to put the warranty on as need to change the brand new tyres 😪, the new non Porsche battery and the last service was at an Indy, so Porsche would want to wave their oily rag over it before adding the warranty.

I spoke to Hartech and they have had 9a1 DFI engines snap their timing chains and also bore score, they said it's not really known if it's a major known issue like the M96/M97 engines suffer from as it's too early to tell yet, they reckon another 5 years for the DFI engines to start issues trending!

Problem is there might not be anything wrong with the engine but once the doubt seed starts to sow...

Just wish I hadn't fitted 4 new PS4S to the car as thinking of getting an OPC warranty put on it now.

Thanks, actually Lee was the Porsche specialist I spoke to, fingers crossed for the oil change in 500 miles!

Unfortunately, no I haven't got the old oil or filter.  I'm guessing the chain is slapping the engine casing, shaving off bits of metal?

Just been on the phone to another Porsche specialist and they have not really heard of this issue on the 987.2S engine, they said to drive for another 500miles and then get the oil filter looked at and see if there is still some metal present.

I've got a Porsche experience half day booked (was a birthday gift) in September and I'm taking the car to really get to know it well, risk it?

Any recommendations in the Bristol area?

This is my thoughts too, need to get a second opinion I guess but almost impossible to definitely diagnosis without major intervention.

So, haven't been on here much but have just had the oil changed on my 987.2S by a Porsche specialist and they found metal in the oil (their words),  on driving the car out of the workshop, the mechanic heard what sounded like to him an intermittent metallic tick at around 2000rpm, he removed the serpentine belt and the intermittent tick was still there.

His initial diagnosis was timing chain stretch as he has had this two other Porsches and replaced the timing chain on those cars due to this.

Now I cannot find anything online about this issue with 987.2 DFi engines at all, he did demonstrate the noise to me which is an incredibly faint intermittent noise/tick at around 2000rpm.

The problem is diagnosis is engine dropped and listened to, which they are quoting £1500 for, or £4000 for the chain replacement.

Thanks for your help!

Thanks PS4S all round then as rears are pretty old too

So just about to take the Box out for a run and discovered that the front tyre is flat😪

maybe it’s trying to tell me to replace the tyres as they are 7 years old.

looking at PS4S but they are all XL tyres, is that an issue for the box?

Drove to Porsche to pick up a Y-cable, so I can connect my ancient iPod.

Sun finally came out for a few hours, so grabbed the opportunity to go for my first drive with the top down.

That howl at 5-6000rpm is sooo addictive 😎👍

2 hours ago, McDonald said:

What would a 987.2 with all those extras cost in a different colour, I wonder? 17,000 miles, one owner, FPSH.

It's always going to fetch a premium.

https://mrsportscars.com/listing/porsche-boxster-s-987-gen-2-aerokit-manual/
 

here you go, a white edition 😂

Got the same issue, did you get the parts from Porsche or aftermarket?  And is it literally undo some bolts whilst car is on stands?

Went for a proper drive, with the speed limiter next to me…

Just collected the car, was overfilled by about 300-400ml, also had an inspection done and the results was that I bought a good one.

Thank **** for that 👌

Now I’m going to enjoy the car 👍

When I was looking for a boxster, a similar spec 981S was starting around £35k and they weren’t even limited edition’s 🤣

Does anybody use an Optimate 4 as a battery tender?

Don’t want to invest in a Ctek as have a perfectly good Optimate 4 I used for my MX5.  What’s the best way to connect it, cigarette light er socket or straight to the battery?

Thought I would update No 476 with the official options.

Well the dealers swear that they didn’t add any oil to the car, it got serviced in September at what looks like a ‘normal’ garage.

Still, taking it to Porschemode on Thursday to get the oil drained and quantity measured and a good look over.

Thanks, interestingly it had its oil level sensor changed in 2019 under warranty.  
 

Loved the drive back though 👍 but it was raining and now the cars dirty 🤣
 

It also seems odd that it gave me the message 50 minutes into the drive and not when it got up to temperature.  Can’t measure the oil level when cold thanks to the 987.2 not letting you!  I’ve spoken to the dealer and they are going to find out if their mechanic put any oil in the car before I collected it.