RedBarediver
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3 minutes ago, Menoporsche said:
Oooh, problem solved itself!
Is the speedo separate from the dash, you don't have to fit a replacement speedo and then get all the coding? Nice if so.
Everything I have seen so far seems to suggest the speedo can be removed. Sometimes people fit a 911 set of instruments and it looks nice BUT it seems a right old palaver to do and it adds at least another £3-£400 to the cost. All for the addition of oil pressure and ammeter gauges. It does look cool but I am used to the Boxster clocks so I'll just keep them. The speedo should not need to be recoded afterwards as it should retain all the car info (mileage / VIN number etc) and just be able to slot back in.
Once the dashboard has arrived I'll see if it includes the binnacle over the instrument panel (don't think it does). I may have to source one of those in black as well but time will tell.
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1 minute ago, RedBarediver said:
I was going to but then I got offered a full set of interior black carpets, complete centre console, and box that goes on the engine cover for a good price. I also made an offer on the dashboard that I saw. If the guy accepts it then my Porsche fund is tapped out for this month. But, all I then still need to make it complete is a set of black door cards.
Apparently it's not too bad. I guess I'm going to find out the hard way. Fortune favours the brave they say lol.
Ha ha awesome! The guy accepted my offer for the dashboard - which includes the airbag module as well
From the pictures it looks like it's in good shape which is why I was interested in the first place. Can't wait for it to arrive.
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On 3/5/2024 at 2:43 PM, Menoporsche said:
Be creative and work out which bits to change cheaply to make it two-tone. Floor mats, door cards, steering wheel...
I was going to but then I got offered a full set of interior black carpets, complete centre console, and box that goes on the engine cover for a good price. I also made an offer on the dashboard that I saw. If the guy accepts it then my Porsche fund is tapped out for this month. But, all I then still need to make it complete is a set of black door cards.
On 3/5/2024 at 4:20 PM, ATM said:Surely that's a big job - fitting?
Apparently it's not too bad. I guess I'm going to find out the hard way. Fortune favours the brave they say lol.
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1 minute ago, Davey P said:
Photos required mate... ☺️
Will do. As soon as it's all in I'll put up a set of before and after.
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Just replaced the covers on my roll bar from grey to black. Looks really nice now with the black seats. I have a full set of interior carpets and the box on the engine cover as well as the entire centre console in black on the way. I am also sniffing around a dashboard in black that looks quite good. All I need then are nice black door cards. In all I reckon changing the entire interior to black will cost about £600 give or take. A lot of money, yes but I think it makes the interior so much nicer it's worth it.
And besides it gives me an excuse to fiddle around with the car every weekend and not have to do gardening or other chores that I dislike...
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49 minutes ago, ATM said:
Black works with any colour. Just get black.
Agreed. Although, now I want to change everything to black inside - looking for a black extended leather dashboard at the moment....
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11 hours ago, TV8 said:
that’s interesting. I don’t supposed you measured them from the top of the seat head rest to the to sear runners?
No, I didn't but as ATM says the seat back is higher. Placing them next to the old 986 seats when I had them out the difference is clearly visible. And yes, if you fold them forward they hit the sun visors which the old seats never did.
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2 hours ago, Menoporsche said:
How is the top of your head relative to the roll hoops? There was a criticism of the 986 that taller people could be decapitated in a roll. Have the new seats addressed that at all?
At the moment if someone hit me in the back hard enough the top of my head would probably contact the roll bar. With the old 986 seats it would have been a lot worse, as in a lot more of my head would contact. I think if I drop the seats as low as it can go my head would be okay - but then the driving position seems to hurt my lower back (hence my comment regarding lumbar support).
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I can report back now after having tested the seats for about an hour and a half.
Definitely more legroom in the car, and the seats go down much lower. I used to have my previous seats all the way to the bottom of their travel ands still have to push the seat all the way back to the firewall in order to make room for my legs. With the 987 seats I started off in the same position and had to lift the seat a bit. I feel it would have been even better if it had the lumbar adjustment but no complaints. They look smart and they feel good. I am still getting used to them but they do hug your sides better and I feel more like I'm wearing the car now than just sitting in it. If you can get hold of a set to replace the bog standard 986 seats then I would say go for it.
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37 minutes ago, TV8 said:
How are the new seats for comfort and leg room please?
They seem a lot better. Definitely goes down lower than the previous seats. I had to have a sherbet to celebrate after installing them, so today will be the first time I take it for a drive. I'll report back but I anticipate a massive improvement.
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2 hours ago, Fat Rat said:
Pictures of new seats. 😬🤙🏻
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Cfab94udWZC8j5cy6
Can't upload photos to the forum as they're too big.
I also have a black centre console lid and black roll bar covers on the way. It looks weird with the grey now.
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Done! Took me about an hour and a half all told. Wiring was very straightforward too. I just cut off the plugs from the old seats, put some spade connectors on the cut wires and plugged it straight into the seat. The old seat plugs obviously fit the plugs in the car. Seats fit and look great. Works beautifully too. I am sure it would have been a right old faff if the seats were heated etc but these are the same as what I had ie manual back and forward, and manual up and down. The only electric part is the backrest.
I don't need heated seats and I'm the only one that drives the car so I don't need seat memory either. If anyone wants the old seats let me know. You will have to come and collect, and I would be very happy if you made a small donation to Scotty's Little Soldiers. I don't want anything else for them. Not even a beer!
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Took out my crappy grey 986 seats and installed a set of black 987 seats. After all the stressing I did in the weeks leading up to the swap it turned out to be pretty easy. The seats I bought were just normal two-way. No seat memory or seat heating to worry about. Thanks to everyone's input I managed to work out the wiring. Red for power and brown for earth. In the end all I did was cut off the plugs from the old seats, put some spade connectors on the two wires (red and brown) and plugged the spade connectors onto the 987 seat plug. Used the plugs I cut off to connect the seat to the car and hey presto! It works beautifully. It looks a little weird now with a grey centre console lid but I found a black lid cover on eBay for a tenner and that's on the way.
So, if someone is looking for a set of 986 seats to use or cannabilise you can have my old ones. Two caveats - you need to come and collect and you need to make some sort of donation to Scotty's Little Soldiers. I don't want anything for them myself but even a tenner would make a difference to some kid who has lost his mom or dad serving our country.
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Bought a black centre console lid cover off eBay to fit in with the black seats that I am going to install. The original lid is grey and would probably look a little weird between the black seats.
Eventually I plan to change the whole interior to black.
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Okay, so the plug from the 987 seats looks fairly basic. There is a positive and a negative pin and all you have to do is supply power to these pins (positive to positive and negative to negative) and then the seatback adjustment will apparently work.
The negative is fairly simple because I presume that will just be a brown earth wire from the 986 plug, and then a red wire from the 986 plug to positive? I suppose I can always just put a wire on the negative pin and connect that to an earth point under the seat, but I would like for it to be a neat and tidy job. So I'll put little spade connectors or whatever on the right gauge and colour wire, heatshrink them nicely and plug it into the 987 seat plug, and on the car side into the old 986 plug. I can cable tie it nicely out of the way under the seat and hopefully never have to touch them again. That way, the plug on the car side stays unmolested and the whole thing can be reversed easily. I'll also keep the original plugs on the 986 seats and see if someone wants to buy them to offset some of my costs. They are in fairly good nick, no rips or anything and being grey are fairly easy to recolour if you so wish.
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25 minutes ago, ½cwt said:
Absolutely! You need an E8 for new coil packs too (assuming you get the up issued Porsche or BERU ones that need the longer bolts) whist you are drawing up a tool list!
Can't go wrong at this price. Very handy to keep a set in the toolbox.
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1 hour ago, phazed said:
All I can say is Yikes! I doubt I need a new set of seats that much.
47 minutes ago, phazed said:The 987 sports seats are very comfortable, hold you in position and definitely sit lower in the car.
I have them in my 987 and they are really good.
I am really looking forward to getting them in. This weekend is a little busy but if I get the 147 bumper replaced early Sunday, I may have time to start on the seats. Unless, of course it rains again.
16 minutes ago, ATM said:Just remembered you need the weird sockets for the bolts. Forgot the name but it's like the female version of a torx.
Some people use a standard 6 pointed hex but it can chew up the bolt heads. Especially the one at the centre rear which is the hardest to get to.
I've had to replace some on my car which were chewed up before I got in there.
Yes, I have sourced a set at the local ScrewFix. Have to buy and collect still but they aren't expensive. Also, it makes the job so much easier and a lot more fun if you have the right tools for the job.
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Now THESE would be a total steal if you had the right colour interior!
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15 minutes ago, Jimbop90 said:
I saw those. The ones from Steve Strange look like they are in better shape actually. Still, for £300 these are perfectly good.
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15 hours ago, RedBarediver said:
I also had a look at the wiring under the passenger seat (took the plug apart until I could see the wiring). Two brown, one red and a yellow and black wire. No wires on the seatbelt so that's good. The seat up/down is mechanical and that works perfectly, so all I have to worry about is wiring the seatback correctly.
I realised that this may give someone the wrong idea if he is researching replacing the seats with 987 seats. The passenger side doesn't have a wire running from the seatbelt receptacle to the plug under the seat. The driver's side seat does have one (to turn the light on the dash on and off as pointed out by ATM) so I'll have to see if I want to use that or not. I never drive anywhere without the seatbelt on so it doesn't matter if the light works or not. As long as it stays off then I'm happy.
BTW, just in case anyone needs the ISO fixings for their car, I plan to take the ISO fixings off the passenger side. I don't have kids and don't plan to drive any kids around either.
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13 hours ago, ATM said:
I think on my 986 the 987 seat headrest interfaced much more with the roll over hoops especially in the higher positions. I had mine as low as possible so not a concern. Occasionally I did have the passenger seat higher up for a younger person.
I plan to keep mine as low as possible. I am quite tall and have long legs which is the reason I bought the seats because I should be able to get a bit more leg and headroom.
12 hours ago, phazed said:Where did you manage to find a pair of seats for 300 pounds?
eBay. Spotted them by luck and grabbed it as soon as I could. they looked quite good on the pictures, just a little dusty and dirty. Cleaned them up yesterday and they look way better than I thought they would.
FYI Steve Strange has a set on eBay now for around £375 or something if you're looking. They're not heated or fully automatic but if like me you're not bothered about it then that's a good deal. Heated seats seem to go for anything from £750 a pair to £2,499.99.....
By the way if anyone is looking to buy leather care for their seats I have a code from furniture clinic that will give you a 10% discount. Valid for the next week or less.
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2 hours ago, ATM said:
Make sure to place a towel on the sill. Otherwise you can mangle the sill or kick plate very quickly.
That's good advice. I don't even think of the kick plate.
2 hours ago, Patt said:and steering wheel far up and in as possible.
My steering only goes in or out. I'll put it in as far as I can so it's out of the way.
I have cleaned the seats and given them a first coat of leather care. I'll let that soak in and do a few more coats. I also have some leather re-colouring balm in black on the way from Furniture Clinic. Their stuff is very good and tends to go a long way. I have some grey re-colouring balm but that won't work on these seats...
I also had a look at the wiring under the passenger seat (took the plug apart until I could see the wiring). Two brown, one red and a yellow and black wire. No wires on the seatbelt so that's good. The seat up/down is mechanical and that works perfectly, so all I have to worry about is wiring the seatback correctly. I'll play around with that a bit this week before I install the seats (hopefully on the weekend if it doesn't rain....)
PS: the seats look really good after the first clean and some leather care. A little wear on the driver's bolster where the colour is starting to come off. A bit of black re-colouring balm should sort that out.
I must say I am very pleased with my purchase. £300 for two 987 seats in this condition is a steal.
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On 2/21/2024 at 4:00 PM, ATM said:
I bought some 987 seats for my 986. And I just bolted them in without wiring in the backrest adjustment. They were basically fine as is so maybe I got lucky. I didn't keep them in the car as I eventually switched to proper buckets. I did just swap over the belt buckle from the 986 seat to the 987 seat and then removed the white plug which attaches to this from the multi plug so I could re-attach it. I then cable tied this to keep it from falling out. Then when I got my 996 with Buckets I realised this wasn't necessary. It just has nothing plugged into the multi plug. So if you do connect the wiring of the belt buckle this effectively turns on the dash light until you insert the belt into the buckle. If you just dont bother with any of this rewiring then the light never comes on. Much much simpler. When I changed to buckets I then bought some different belt buckles which were better to use. I wont go on about this as its not relevant here.
That's very helpful, thanks! The seats arrived this morning and, while they need a bit of a clean and some leather care, they look great. No rips or tears. The driver's bolster is a little saggy from being used but nothing serious. I also had to try them out on the floor in my study and they certainly feel a LOT better than the standard seats in the 986. I haven't had time to look at the wiring yet (I do have to do some work...) and I'll only be able to do the swap this weekend - IF the weather holds.
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Looking at the Electrical Wiring Diagram above it's starting to make more sense to me. Depending on the seats you have - and I believe my new seats are very basic with no heating or memory to worry about - you can just disregard the part of the wiring diagram that does not apply. From what I have gleaned all I need to do is find out which wires in the seat corresponds to which function. So, I plan to connect a new wire each to the Red and Brown on the car side, and connect these to the corresponding wires on the new seat. All things being equal I should be able to then power the functions of the seat so it can move.
I also plan to take the seatbelt buckle from the existing seats and swop that over to the new seats with their wiring. Apparently using the 987 seat buckle and wiring on the 986 creates an issue and the car complains with a light on the dashboard.
Now it's just a matter of waiting for the seats to arrive - hopefully before the weekend - so I can get stuck in!
What have YOU done to your 986 today ?
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The garden looks like a swamp at the moment. Last year just as it started raining - no, pouring!! - for months on end, a friend and I dug a French drain to sort out the poor drainage. House is built on what looks to me to be pure clay. Took out about two tons of soil and wheelbarrowed it across the garden. Absolutely destroyed the lawn. Quote my friend the chartered horticulturist "no worries, it will grow back"... Nope. It looks just as bad now as it did then.
On a positive note the French drain works really well. If it didn't then I think the house would have been flooded. But I have had enough of gardening. She can do it.