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20 hours ago, lawrencequinn said:

Thanks Brian. I couldn’t find it. 

In my 981 manual it's in the short section specifically on the alarm system (p197). I remember in my 986 and 987 manuals it was in a similar section, but obviously on different page. Specifically mentions turning off the internal sensors if leaving eg animals in the car and turning off the inclination sensor when going on ferries. 2 presses of the key locking button within 2 seconds - direction indicators flash once in response. Different process if you have the comfort entry system (not sure that was offered on 987, can't remember).

The tilt sensor definitely turns off if you double press the locking button on the key. It’s in the manual somewhere but in a different place from where it tells you that double-pressing turns off the cabin sensor. Somewhere near the back of the manual if my memory is correct.

Thanks Richard, good to know. The new maps seem pretty good for accuracy, except about 2 mins from my home where I am now supposed to divert off the A6 onto a lane that has been blocked off with bollards for decades, then over a pavement and up a one-way street in the wrong direction! As that route wasn’t featured on the 2016 or 2018 maps, progress isn’t always in the right direction…..

Fascinating stuff. Good luck!

19 hours ago, iborguk said:

Did you own the 2013 car from new ? If not perhaps the PCM had been swapped out under warranty at some point.

No, it was about 4 months old when I bought it (previously registered personally to a Porsche manager). The other thing it didn't have was the option to view battery voltage on the display - that just wasn't in the list of data available unlike the 2016 car. I just think the software build on some earlier cars was different! 

22 minutes ago, iborguk said:

If you have nothing in the update history then you'll have whatever maps it shipped with from the original supplying dealer.

Possibly, or possibly not. My 2013 car did not have a history tab, even though it was on software V4.76. So even though the maps had been upgraded, there was nowhere anybody could look to find what version was installed. My 2016 car does have a history tab.

Now I've upgraded successfully I may experiment with the CTEK connected across the battery/body to see if the PCM switches off or not. By the time the next map upgrade is published (if ever) I will have probably forgotten the result.  

2 hours ago, Ringer250 said:

There have been numerous discussions both on BoXa.net and Porsche Club GB forum regarding connecting the CTek unit depending on the year of the 981. The trick was to ensure connection within the 10 minute period the standard supplied sockets are live after ignition switch off.
I have a 2014 model with the optional smokers pack which provides an extra socket where the standard open tray resides just ahead of the armrest. This has always worked even leaving the car overnight then opening the door and just plugging in the Ctek. There are reports that the 718 standard sockets also worked OK with ctek, so still not sure why Porsche appeared to have changed the operation on the later 981.

I always thought people who couldn't get their CTEKs to work on 981s were doing something wrong, until I bought my 2016 car. I've assiduously tried all three sockets as you describe; none of them will stay working. I never had a problem with my 2013 car. I know of one person with a 2016 car whose OPC changed the behaviour of the footwell socket to stay live but I don't know how this was done. My own suspicion is that the socket behaviour is configurable somewhere and that the software build of 2016 cars has them configured to switch off and earlier cars don't, but that's a guess. In my case I bought a £9 CTEK fused connector to put across the battery and body which solved the charging problem and was probably a lot less costly than trying to get an OPC to investigate how to change anything!

Having had an expensively-repaired PCM failure on my 2013 car and heard a few stories about failures involving DVDs stuck in the drive, I decided that ANY glitch was likely to cost a lot more than a couple of hours of idling petrol and went that route for the map update. I'm happy with my decision but interested to know that some people have an alternative.  

11 minutes ago, Ringer250 said:

Jon, Just plugged in the ctek to the lighter socket which kept PCM from shutting down. No ignition on. This was mentioned as a tip by someone in the original 2018 map upgrade when getting the DVDs from the ebay guy. 

That's interesting. I didn't do that because in my 2016 981 all the charging ports shut down after about 10 mins when the CTEK is active - this didn't happen in my previous 2013 981. I was keen to get the map upgrade done without suffering any unforeseen issues, particularly as the previous attempt by an OPC had failed with an error after an hour or so for a reason that they couldn't explain (and didn't even notice that it hadn't worked) . So I took what I thought would be the least risky route.  

Hi Greenman, I was on V4.76 before and still on the same when finished. I have always understood that this is the latest/last for PCM3.1 The satnavishop.co.uk description says their package includes "DVD firmware update (if necessary)" - it might be worth asking exactly what this means if the PCM is earlier than 4.76. I am not quite clear what the "software" DVD does - I am presuming it installs the map update capability and ties in the activation code supplied on the USB. I guess Richard Hamilton will probably know that answer to that as the process appears to replicate the "official" process without the need for PIWIS (and without OPC c*ck-ups).     

I successfully upgraded my maps to 2022 (V6.7.1) today. Overall a very straightforward, error-free process (unlike the two times in the last 8 years I tried via OPCs). The complete upgrade took 1h 20mins from start to finish.

Prior to ordering I checked that my PCM3.1 DVD drive actually worked by inserting a disc, playing some music and ejecting the disc. I also checked that the USB slot in the glovebox worked. I ordered from SatNaviShop on May 4. Later that day I had an email from David asking for a photo of the system screen you get by pressing "Source + Info" together, plus a photo of my VIN, which I supplied by return. I also asked him if he could email me the instructions so I knew up front what was involved, which he did. The instructions were brief and straightforward, but not having done it before, some additional information about the process would have been useful, some of which I include in the following.

I received the pack by first class, "Signed For" Royal Mail this morning. They were posted in Nottingham. The pack consists of a software DVD, a USB stick and 5 numbered map DVDs. You are advised to leave the engine running throughout the process to prevent the PCM shutting down during the upgrade. I then inserted the Software DVD which took a few minutes to load, then self-ejected (all the DVDs self-eject when loaded, this is not mentioned in the instructions). Next insert the USB stick and wait a couple of minutes before removing it, then press "Info" for 10 seconds to reboot the PCM. Then load the map DVDs in order. Each one took about 10 mins to load before asking you to insert the next. Slightly disconcerting when loading the next, the PCM initially tells you it is reading the previous one for a few seconds before recognising the new number. Each map DVD said "Disc 1 of 5" etc until it got to disc 5, when it said "Disc 5 of 4", presumably a numbering oversight from when there used to be 4. At the end the system rebooted and confirmed V6.7.1 installed. On startup the maps took longer than usual to load then told me I was in the middle of Sweden - soon sorted when I moved out of my garage and my location was correctly established. 

The maps look reasonably up to date (yes, the A555 to Manchester Airport now appears to exist in its entirety). Obviously they won't be like Google Maps or Waze but I am very happy to have a method of getting the latest maps without the hassle, time and cost of travelling to an OPC.  

I've ordered 6.7.1 from SatNaviShop today. I'll report my experience.

Greenman - your comments about the A555 exactly mirror why I wanted the update done. I really must get round to the Imgur thing to share images on here but haven't done yet. Briefly, my history screen shows:

Source 25-MAR-2013-D, then next line Date 2022-02-16, time 10:42:32 (date and time latest update attempted), then 5 lines of codes all starting PCM31, then

Source 12-JUN-2015-D, then similar to above on same date at 11:03:30 with 5 more lines of different PCM31 codes, then

Source 08D21516, with same date at 11:52:15 with Error 0x1041 and a PCM31 code, then finishing up with

Source 07D21407, same date, time 13:08:00, 6.2.2 PCM31_ECE_N313_1407_P5

barryp, thanks for your input too. As SatNaviShop is advertising the new version as 6.7.1 I am concluding that your end message starting 6.7.1 confirms that is what is installed, and that my 6.2.2 indicates mine isn't!!

When I recently bought my 2016 car from an OPC, I got the maps updated to 2022 as part of the deal. However, it is now clear that the maps on this car are older than the 2018 maps on my previous car - probably still the original 2016 maps. The “history” tab on the PCM shows that update activity took place on the day before I collected the car but one of the actions generated an error message. I am in discussion with the OPC about resolving this. In the meantime, it would be really helpful if anyone with the 2022 update installed could confirm that the A555 is shown running east from Manchester Airport to join the A6 near the village of High Lane. This road is completely absent on the (probably) 2016 maps, was partially present on the 2018 maps, and if present on the 2022 maps would be a great indicator that any update had been successful. Many thanks!

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I bought a car from OPC recently. We went to take a look before they had inspected it for sale. On the lift, the techie looked at the front tyres and said "those are 5 years and 4 months old, we'll have to change them". The rears were 4 years and 6 months old, didn't need to change. As they were all P Zero N0, we came to a mutually agreed sum for swapping them all for N1 - I'd done the same swap on the previous car and was much happier with N1.  

Porsche won't sell you a used car with tyres over 5 years old.

If your cap was untouched from when you last tightened it, I don't think it is on properly. In true Porsche style, when properly located, mine always had all the symbols positioned completely upright, not turned 20 degrees anti-clockwise like yours.  

 It's a while since I had one but I thought in the 986 and 987 Driver's Manual it specifically said do NOT apply lubrication to the bolt thread. It advised applying Optimoly TA between the spherical washer and the bolt head, with a diagram. But I might be mistaken.

I still have my original 986 brochure for the 2003 facelift model with the glass rear screen. You could get the hood in 3 optional colours - black, graphite grey or metropole blue. 

18 hours ago, Paul P said:

only one way to find out i guess.  

.....Read the contract!  At least you will then be at least as well informed as the OPC, and maybe better... 

1 hour ago, Menoporsche said:

D’oh, hadn’t twigged that he was upgrading from a non-S. That makes a bit more sense…. But 20ks worth is a question only he can answer. 

Neither had I, sorry!

I just went through the process of looking at a late 981 GTS (2016) to replace my Aug 2013 S PDK which I had for 8 years. I already had many GTS features (PASM, Sport Chrono, etc), useful features like electric folding mirrors, park assist front and rear, dual zone aircon (a marital harmony essential) and many others but was also looking for PDLS, DAB radio and ideally rear camera (which I had never actually seen on a 981). I test drove a GTS in a local non-OPC purveyor of flash cars and in spirited drive on normal roads couldn’t tell any difference vs my S. Also, it didn’t have dual zone aircon and was being offered with 3 months quite restrictive warranty at the same price as several similar GTSs from OPCs with 2 years warranty.

After a few more weeks research I found many 981 GTSs weren’t as well specified as I thought they would be, and Ss configured with GTS standard features of same age and miles were about £8-12k cheaper than GTSs, which is a bloody expensive G & T! In the end I found a 2016 981S in an OPC in amazing condition with all the features I wanted (including rear camera) and am delighted with it. Strangely it feels quite different from my previous 2013 car, even noticed by my passenger wife. Much smoother in drive and ride, and the PSE is great.

Aren't the original sizes listed on the plate on the driver's door shut?

I had a 987.2S without PASM and now 2 x 981S with PASM. I've tried 981 and 718 with 19 and 20" wheels without PASM, back-to-back with my 981. To me (and my wife) the immediate benefit of PASM (I only use it "off") is the elimination of the noticeable fore/aft pitching on bumpy roads making the whole ride much more comfortable and less tiring on long journeys. My 2016 car seems even better to both of us than my 2013 predecessor.