Lennym1984 Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 So like the title says, due to an over tightened bolt, I managed to crack my wheel nut key. It still works for bolts that are not overly tight but I don't really want to risk it on a tough one. I'm sure I'm not the first person to do this, so what is the best course of action in this situation? Ideally I'd like to get the stuck one out and then replace the lot with standard bolts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat haggis Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 I have taken mine off what’s the code on your one and we can have a look for a match to get your locking nuts off permently ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMacdonald Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 I managed to drive off with mine attached to the wheel once. Needless to say it was never seen again so I bought a remover tool like this and just brute-forced all four off before replacing with standard bolts. It was amazingly easy and demonstrated how useless the security bolts are. The tool has come in handy for things like rusted bolts on other jobs too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennym1984 Posted December 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 14 minutes ago, fat haggis said: I have taken mine off what’s the code on your one and we can have a look for a match to get your locking nuts off permently ? I couldn't find a code anywhere (but could be looking in the wrong place) but below is a photo of the pattern. If that helps... https://ibb.co/ntGHKb Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat haggis Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 46 minutes ago, Lennym1984 said: I couldn't find a code anywhere (but could be looking in the wrong place) but below is a photo of the pattern. If that helps... https://ibb.co/ntGHKb Thanks in advance it should have a number on it if proper porsche locking nut . the number dictates the pattern on it .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennym1984 Posted December 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 On the nut or the key? There is no discernible number on the key Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart21UK Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 the number is on the other end i.e. if you put the key on a bolt it would be facing you...like this (I've obscured the code on it for obvious reasons)...FYI this is a genuine Porsche locking wheel key (and the one it replaced was the same) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anker BS Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 The sad thing is that you can remove the lock bolt with a simple socket tool. Find the right size and it will fit well enough to get the bolt out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikefocke Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 Go to the OPC and ask at the parts department if you can borrow their set if you buy 4 normal replacement bolts. Then trial and error in the parking lot till you find the one that works. Worked for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T911UK Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 There are 30 different sockets for those type locks. The original socket wont have the number stamped on it. OPC's and most decent specialists will have the master socket box of 30 but if the bolts are over tight you may well just destroy the next socket (ask me how I know about that). As mentioned by a few above, buy a nut removal set and take them all off and hurl them into the nearest bush, complete and utter waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike597 Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 5 hours ago, mikefocke said: Go to the OPC and ask at the parts department if you can borrow their set if you buy 4 normal replacement bolts. Then trial and error in the parking lot till you find the one that works. Worked for me. This is what I did with audi and they just sold me the one from their set and ordered themselves a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart21UK Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 5 hours ago, T911UK said: There are 30 different sockets for those type locks. The original socket wont have the number stamped on it. OPC's and most decent specialists will have the master socket box of 30 but if the bolts are over tight you may well just destroy the next socket (ask me how I know about that). As mentioned by a few above, buy a nut removal set and take them all off and hurl them into the nearest bush, complete and utter waste of time. except both of mine did and all I gave the OPC over teh phone was the code for them to order one, then post out to me once received in stock it may of course be different for NON 981 parts I'll grant you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T911UK Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 Yes, the old 986 ones as per the OP have no markings on them. I have no experience with the 987 on type ones, I imagine there are a good few different sockets too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennym1984 Posted December 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 On 11/12/2017 at 9:21 PM, AMacdonald said: I managed to drive off with mine attached to the wheel once. Needless to say it was never seen again so I bought a remover tool like this and just brute-forced all four off before replacing with standard bolts. It was amazingly easy and demonstrated how useless the security bolts are. The tool has come in handy for things like rusted bolts on other jobs too. As an update on this, I bought a set of the bolt grips you suggested and with a quick tap of a hammer and a twist of a breaker bar, off they came. Given how easy it was to remove them (and figuring that any potential thief could do the same), I decided to replace them with standard lugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowbos Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 20 minutes ago, Lennym1984 said: As an update on this, I bought a set of the bolt grips you suggested and with a quick tap of a hammer and a twist of a breaker bar, off they came. Given how easy it was to remove them (and figuring that any potential thief could do the same), I decided to replace them with standard lugs. Just a thought. Are there insurance implications if you don’t have locking nuts when they were OEM fit? I had a browse around and didn’t see any definitive guidance on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikefocke Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 Wheels for a '98 (unless they are something special) are not in high demand. Ran around all sorts of places in 17" turbo twists without locks. Your area may be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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