melillo Posted February 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 18 hours ago, Nobbie said: Original exhaust Toyosport exhaust with SS headers You need to double click on these to get the sound. Didn't open for me.... Maybe on a different browser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melillo Posted February 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 2 hours ago, naim22 said: Cheers, It can be a bit tricky with older cars as the measurement devices themselves can be suspect (MAF's in particular are known for this) , but I've always found that its worth following the data first & assuming everything is measuring as it should as opposed to assuming the data is bad first. I always find It soon becomes apparent if there is a measurement problem this way. Thanks very much, @½cwt is right. It's a bit of a what I think is called a busman's holiday? 😂 We need to do a BBQ, proper Brazilian one :). good morning! On my weekly or so car start/ride, code is now only P0036. So, or the exhaust leak is causing it or as mentioned, maybe the lambda cables are touching the hot bits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naim22 Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 P0036 is related to the heater control circuit & thus is not an emissions related diagnostic (ie combustion & aftertreatment) but is a diagnostic of the sensor hardware itself. So a brand new sensor itself should not flag this (unless it has been damaged). So this would suggest wiring purely as it is the only commonality that can be seen between the two flagged codes. The live OBD data from a warm & idling engine would help greatly in determining what is wrong. This is available on most generic scanners. I am sure the tool that is pulling these codes also has the capability to read that data. Without the data everything can only be a best guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 10 hours ago, naim22 said: Thanks very much, @½cwt is right. It's a bit of a what I think is called a busman's holiday? 😂 You love it really! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melillo Posted March 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 HEllo, good afternoon! So, first update, 16 years of rust: - Very much rust and breaking apart exhaust. - leaks pretty much everywhere - all the bolts were snapped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewfmg Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 On 2/20/2020 at 6:12 PM, naim22 said: Check the catalytic converter is operating correctly & exhaust for leaks on Bank 1 The O2 Sensor reading downstream of the cat looks to be too lean. This should read approximately 0.7V relatively constantly as Bank 2 does (as the catalytic converter by nature averages the O2 value, so you dont see this oscillation on the post cat sensors) & vehicles generally are setup to run ever so slightly rich in closed loop control as its safer for the components. The MAF IAT value looks reasonable for a hot & static engine, as does the air flow & as this is specific to one bank, I wouldnt point at the MAF just yet. I cannot see your Bank 1 pre cat O2 sensor, to see if this is switching correctly. If this was also not switching to similar values to Bank 2, I'd definitely be considering a leak at the manifold or a fuelling issue. The fact the long term fuel trims look okay implies that the precat sensor is reading as expected, but that is assuming they have not been cleared recently. Failing that, it could be a duff sensor itself, you could do this by swapping the sensors over to the respective opposing banks. It is also worth checking to see if your DME software is up to date. Thanks for this very helpful So the story continues , just had a MOT (passed) no leaks in the exhaust but the car threw a new code P0140 (O2 Sensor 2 bank 1) while doing the emissions test and now comes on every 20 miles but no sign of P2096 now what now ? please help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewfmg Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 On 2/20/2020 at 4:59 PM, melillo said: Um.....this is "worrisome". Thanks for sharing it, where/how can you get this data from? Did you have your exhaust components checked for leaks? For my car, I will detail all bits: replacing/cleaning/testing. (to come after 29th Feb). Cheers. I have a X-TOOL 100 pad and its very handy for most cars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyUK Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 On 2/18/2020 at 1:22 PM, Boxob said: The exhaust system you've bought looks identical to many other aftermarket exhaust systems available on ebay. From reports on here they are considered loud and droney (at motorway speeds). Not such a problem on a weekend car but tiresome on a daily driver. Just droney at 1800- 3500 rpm.... Er which is almost 90% of your driving time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the baron Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 On 3/2/2020 at 4:51 PM, melillo said: HEllo, good afternoon! So, first update, 16 years of rust: - Very much rust and breaking apart exhaust. - leaks pretty much everywhere - all the bolts were snapped Nice 356 in the background, noticed the Reutters badge. is it a "C" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 Back box might just polish up? pay to fit a balance pipe on the new one before it goes on and it should be usable I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 18 hours ago, Menoporsche said: Back box might just polish up? I'd agree, unless the seams are staring to fail, reuse it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cocky Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 I tried out one of these eBay back boxes and the drone was horrific however I was told by members of this forum and folk on the Boxster outlaw page on Facebook that the drone isn't as bad if you do the full stainless system. So it is well worth just living with it for a short while before you make your mind up. Also just heads up there will be quite a bit of fabric spit out of the exhaust on the first proper drive you do and it's best to wipe it off with a cloth rather than attempt to wash it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melillo Posted March 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 On 3/8/2020 at 3:38 PM, the baron said: Nice 356 in the background, noticed the Reutters badge. is it a "C" It is indeed a beauty, very simple, very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melillo Posted March 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 On 3/8/2020 at 4:57 PM, Menoporsche said: Back box might just polish up? pay to fit a balance pipe on the new one before it goes on and it should be usable I believe. Hello! What is a balance pipe? * where would I go around Bristol to have it done or at least know the cost/time of doing it? THanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melillo Posted March 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 On 3/9/2020 at 11:40 AM, ½cwt said: I'd agree, unless the seams are staring to fail, reuse it. They are failing, first thing I was said on my very expensive first trip to the OPC, that I should be prepared to replace it all (could keep headers...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melillo Posted March 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 15 hours ago, 986CKY said: I tried out one of these eBay back boxes and the drone was horrific however I was told by members of this forum and folk on the Boxster outlaw page on Facebook that the drone isn't as bad if you do the full stainless system. So it is well worth just living with it for a short while before you make your mind up. Also just heads up there will be quite a bit of fabric spit out of the exhaust on the first proper drive you do and it's best to wipe it off with a cloth rather than attempt to wash it off. Um... interesting and good to know. I will keep an eye on it, thanks!! So, I have opted for a "cheap low priority" service, so the car is still there (I don't need the car, only use it for weekend good weather drives). It will require the drill of all 12 bolts... Expecting to have it on next week. Will update about my findings. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 IIRC a balance pipe is a S/s tube of approx 1in diameter welded to join the last bends before the exit, so maybe only 3in long. Holes are opened in the bends to allow gasses through the pipe as well as around to exit. I’d prefer someone more knowledgeable to confirm! anyone who can cut and weld s/s pipe would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cocky Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 5 hours ago, melillo said: Um... interesting and good to know. I will keep an eye on it, thanks!! So, I have opted for a "cheap low priority" service, so the car is still there (I don't need the car, only use it for weekend good weather drives). It will require the drill of all 12 bolts... Expecting to have it on next week. Will update about my findings. Cheers! I am in the same boat, I went into my garage this morning as the eBay manifolds that I have got are different to yours/standard ones and is close to the cylinder head. Hopefully that will be resolved and my manifolds are on at some point next week. I only have 6 bolts that need drilling but unluckily those are all on one side. Also unluckily my mechanic keeps spotting items that need sorting out on the car as well. Bugger. I think you are going down a sensible route with the exhaust and the weekend car thing is very similar to myself and a few friends on here that also run a similar exhaust setup. I can't quite work out if you have 200CEL cats there or the decat package? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melillo Posted March 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 On 3/11/2020 at 5:26 PM, 986CKY said: I am in the same boat, I went into my garage this morning as the eBay manifolds that I have got are different to yours/standard ones and is close to the cylinder head. Hopefully that will be resolved and my manifolds are on at some point next week. I only have 6 bolts that need drilling but unluckily those are all on one side. Also unluckily my mechanic keeps spotting items that need sorting out on the car as well. Bugger. I think you are going down a sensible route with the exhaust and the weekend car thing is very similar to myself and a few friends on here that also run a similar exhaust setup. I can't quite work out if you have 200CEL cats there or the decat package? Hello guys, good morning! OH... that is very unlucky, how did it go? Yes... this can be a pain. My first visit to the OPC was like this...:( I am feeling stupid now Good update: manifolds are in place. Bad update 01: apparently the cats are not cats, only silencers that look like cats. Anyone knows what a 200CEL cat or similar looks like on the inside? If this is true I guess I will need a remap, sounds right? Bad update 02: due to the 12 bolts snap, the cheap side is not going to happen .... But, it looks like it will get ready today 20/03. And I think I am going to sell it, let's see. It is too much money for a weekend car (Missus goes crazy😅) and I will need a commuter vehicle from September, it will probably bike a motorcycle. Happy Friday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVO Chris Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 A catalytic converter (cat) is a honeycomb material that you cannot see through, the picture above just shows a baffle, similar to a motorcycle straight through exhaust. Good luck with the build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cocky Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 10 hours ago, melillo said: Hello guys, good morning! OH... that is very unlucky, how did it go? Yes... this can be a pain. My first visit to the OPC was like this...:( I am feeling stupid now Good update: manifolds are in place. Bad update 01: apparently the cats are not cats, only silencers that look like cats. Anyone knows what a 200CEL cat or similar looks like on the inside? If this is true I guess I will need a remap, sounds right? Bad update 02: due to the 12 bolts snap, the cheap side is not going to happen .... But, it looks like it will get ready today 20/03. And I think I am going to sell it, let's see. It is too much money for a weekend car (Missus goes crazy😅) and I will need a commuter vehicle from September, it will probably bike a motorcycle. Happy Friday! Thankfully my garage have drilled and tapped all the 6 bolts that snapped on the one side and it took them under 1h30 to swap both so it's cost me £60.00 there is a helicoil kit on top of that but I owe another forum member for this. The brake lines are the next job along with service and MOT. These cars are worth sticking a fee hundred quid at them every so often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melillo Posted March 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2020 On 3/20/2020 at 8:37 PM, 986CKY said: Thankfully my garage have drilled and tapped all the 6 bolts that snapped on the one side and it took them under 1h30 to swap both so it's cost me £60.00 there is a helicoil kit on top of that but I owe another forum member for this. The brake lines are the next job along with service and MOT. These cars are worth sticking a fee hundred quid at them every so often. Hello! 60? Wow should I mention how much I paid for my little adventure? 800 without VAT. On the bright side: I love it, addicting sound and no drone at all. Torque has improved greatly (at least it is much more responsive at low rpm and quicker to rev). On the shadow side: requires a remap so the engine light goes off and I believe, burns less unnecessary fuel. Will probably do it on next week. IF I don't try to sell it ... Really short on money, terrible moment to sell a car though... 986cky, I guess so, but maybe not for me... Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melillo Posted March 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2020 So, I was driving around 🤠. Very silent from 0 to around 2.3k rpm, then.... Magic happens. If you need an exhaust, I would recommend this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cocky Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 22 hours ago, melillo said: Hello! 60? Wow should I mention how much I paid for my little adventure? 800 without VAT. On the bright side: I love it, addicting sound and no drone at all. Torque has improved greatly (at least it is much more responsive at low rpm and quicker to rev). On the shadow side: requires a remap so the engine light goes off and I believe, burns less unnecessary fuel. Will probably do it on next week. IF I don't try to sell it ... Really short on money, terrible moment to sell a car though... 986cky, I guess so, but maybe not for me... Cheers! Yeah £60 that didn't include buying the exhaust or helicoil kit so it's closer to £200 all in. My garage is a German car specialist but not a fancy pants one. I'm self employed and work has just gone quiet. Slightly worried but will be getting the car sorted and ready regardless. It won't be taken off the road unless I have to. Fingers crossed for you keeping the car and the outcome of the exhaust sounds brilliant. I'm looking forward to driving mine even more so now. What engine management light is on the car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobbie Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 On 3/20/2020 at 8:37 PM, 986CKY said: Thankfully my garage have drilled and tapped all the 6 bolts that snapped on the one side and it took them under 1h30 to swap both so it's cost me £60.00 there is a helicoil kit on top of that but I owe another forum member for this. The brake lines are the next job along with service and MOT. These cars are worth sticking a fee hundred quid at them every so often. Yeah, about my helicoil kit, it costs £740🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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