Re Porsche extended warranty.

[martyn]

Have I got this wrong, I was on the PGB forum yesterday and I read that if your tyres are 5 years old or older it will fail the 111 point check, although there may well be plenty of tread left and perfectly road legal, but that it’s black and white, over 5 years old, no warranty.
This was the reason the OP gave for Porsche failing to sell him a warranty! Surely if your tyres are 5 years old but in good condition that’s not a reason to decline cover?

My tyres are week 33 year 2017 so it looks as though they could fail in November 2022 if it was presented for the 111 point check. Although hopefully unlikely to affect me directly as I hope to take delivery of new 4.0 718 in September 🙂

[Ringmaster999]

5 minutes ago, martyn said:

Have I got this wrong, I was on the PGB forum yesterday and I read that if your tyres are 5 years old or older it will fail the 111 point check, although there may well be plenty of tread left and perfectly road legal, but that it’s black and white, over 5 years old, no warranty.
This was the reason the OP gave for Porsche failing to sell him a warranty! Surely if your tyres are 5 years old but in good condition that’s not a reason to decline cover?

My tyres are week 33 year 2017 so it looks as though they could fail in November 2022 if it was presented for the 111 point check. Although hopefully unlikely to affect me directly as I hope to take delivery of new 4.0 718 in September 🙂

Yep my local OPC informed me that Porsche do not warranty cars with tyres over 5 years old 😳 I bought my MY13 981 last year with 16700 miles and the original tyres that were still MOT legal. I changed them anyway due to age. 

[r1flyguy]

I had the PZeros changed on my car when it was approaching 4years old and on original tyres, there was cracking in the sidewalls too so wasn’t a bad idea & I learnt then about the 5 year rule!!! 
I changed to cup2’s as I’d rather a better grip for my low use than have to change perfectly good tyres at 5 years if you know what I mean!

[martyn]

18 minutes ago, Ringmaster999 said:

Yep my local OPC informed me that Porsche do not warranty cars with tyres over 5 years old 😳 I bought my MY13 981 last year with 16700 miles and the original tyres that were still MOT legal. I changed them anyway due to age. 

 

12 minutes ago, r1flyguy said:

I had the PZeros changed on my car when it was approaching 4years old and on original tyres, there was cracking in the sidewalls too so wasn’t a bad idea & I learnt then about the 5 year rule!!! 
I changed to cup2’s as I’d rather a better grip for my low use than have to change perfectly good tyres at 5 years if you know what I mean!

 

Wow, So how is this policed, say you present your car with tyres that are 4.5 years old, and bearing in mind that they would therefore be 6.5 years old approx at the end of the 2 year warranty, would they still be rejected? You know what I’m getting at, does the 5 years limit apply at the start or end of the warranty period?? 

[r1flyguy]

18 minutes ago, martyn said:

 

 

Wow, So how is this policed, say you present your car with tyres that are 4.5 years old, and bearing in mind that they would therefore be 6.5 years old approx at the end of the 2 year warranty, would they still be rejected? You know what I’m getting at, does the 5 years limit apply at the start or end of the warranty period?? 

Thats a good question! Im sure they would ‘advise’ you only if you car is warrantied before the 5 year ‘limit’ and should a failure occur after that was directly attributed to your tyres then they have a ‘get out’ clause for covering replacement.

I recently renewed the warranty on my Macan and the front tyres were on the limit markers for wear! They still issued the warranty but had the maintenance report advising me of the tyres. The only reason nothing else was stated was because they provided a quote to replace the tyres which was £100 more than my local tyre fitters. They were replaced the very next day anyway.

[martyn]

1 hour ago, martyn said:

My tyres are week 33 year 2017 so it looks as though they could fail in November 2022 if it was presented for the 111 point check. Although hopefully unlikely to affect me directly as I hope to take delivery of new 4.0 718 in September 🙂

On re reading my post I forgot to say new car coming Sept 2022 not this year as it currently reads. So if for whatever reason I don’t get the 718, it looks as though I’ll be buying new tyres for the warranty renewal in November 22. Shame as there would only be about 12,000 miles on them!

[r1flyguy]

Keep the tyres and sell them on to someone who doesn't use the OPC for warranty renewals

[Forest]

2 hours ago, martyn said:

Have I got this wrong, I was on the PGB forum yesterday and I read that if your tyres are 5 years old or older it will fail the 111 point check, although there may well be plenty of tread left and perfectly road legal, but that it’s black and white, over 5 years old, no warranty.
This was the reason the OP gave for Porsche failing to sell him a warranty! Surely if your tyres are 5 years old but in good condition that’s not a reason to decline cover?

My tyres are week 33 year 2017 so it looks as though they could fail in November 2022 if it was presented for the 111 point check. Although hopefully unlikely to affect me directly as I hope to take delivery of new 4.0 718 in September 🙂

If your car is still in warranty and you are going to extend for another 1, 2 or 3 years, then you do not need the 111 point check any more. Might give you some additional time to sort out tyres

[martyn]

1 hour ago, Forest said:

If your car is still in warranty and you are going to extend for another 1, 2 or 3 years, then you do not need the 111 point check any more. Might give you some additional time to sort out tyres

Good point, bit of a loophole developed now!
Don’t understand why Porsche should think tyre age is in anyway relevant to a warranty, after all tyres are a wear and tear item and thus outside the scope of the warranty.

This is really a safety issue and should be left to the owner (that’s what MOTs are for)!

Edited June 23, 2021 by martyn

[Purdie]

My experience has been that not all OPC’s interpret this rule so rigidly. I renewed my warranty for 2 years when my tyres were already over 6 years old. Whilst one dealer said the 5 year rule was strict, another said they would consider the all round condition  if the tyres before deciding. As there were no other issues with the tyres I went ahead and all was well. 

[GTSMarky]

13 hours ago, martyn said:

Have I got this wrong, I was on the PGB forum yesterday and I read that if your tyres are 5 years old or older it will fail the 111 point check, although there may well be plenty of tread left and perfectly road legal, but that it’s black and white, over 5 years old, no warranty.
This was the reason the OP gave for Porsche failing to sell him a warranty! Surely if your tyres are 5 years old but in good condition that’s not a reason to decline cover?

My tyres are week 33 year 2017 so it looks as though they could fail in November 2022 if it was presented for the 111 point check. Although hopefully unlikely to affect me directly as I hope to take delivery of new 4.0 718 in September 🙂

If you're on P Zeros which you probably are, just use this as an opportunity to bin them and put some Michelin PS4S's on and hey presto you will transform your car in the process.

When you put the MPS4S tyres on you'll realise how bad the Pirellis are.

 

Cup 2's if you have the right rim sizes and are going on track of course.

[jason3.2s]

Would worry about this in October 2022 when the renewal of the warranty is up or youve got a 4.0?

As long as youre happy with the currenty tyres for another year and 4 months.

Edited June 24, 2021 by jason3.2s

[martyn]

Hiya, I’m on Goodyear Eagles, which are dated week 33 year 17 and done about 8k on them. The expiry date of my current warranty is mid November 2022, so is a fraction over the 5 years ‘limit’.

Assuming I get the replacement 718 4.0 ok,  which was ordered last week or delivery approximately in September 2022, it won’t apply but it may effect me further down the road.

Also wondering why Porsche should find it necessary to have this on the 111 point list, as I said above a tyre failure shouldn’t effect their risk exposure. 

[Purdie]

7 minutes ago, martyn said:

Also wondering why Porsche should find it necessary to have this on the 111 point list, as I said above a tyre failure shouldn’t effect their risk exposure. 

Same logic applies to the requirement to fit a Porsche battery which again is an item excluded from warranty cover. 

[iborguk]

Ultimately it's an insurance product and it's play by their rules.

Restrictive yes but it more than paid out on a previous car and I like the coverage for my PDK box and engine.

At about £60 a month I'm willing to play in the rules for the coverage.

 

[GTSMarky]

23 minutes ago, martyn said:

Hiya, I’m on Goodyear Eagles, which are dated week 33 year 17 and done about 8k on them. The expiry date of my current warranty is mid November 2022, so is a fraction over the 5 years ‘limit’.

Assuming I get the replacement 718 4.0 ok,  which was ordered last week or delivery approximately in September 2022, it won’t apply but it may effect me further down the road.

Also wondering why Porsche should find it necessary to have this on the 111 point list, as I said above a tyre failure shouldn’t effect their risk exposure. 

Ah OK - forgot about the Eagles and have no experience of them.  

My BGTS was 3 years old when I bought it from an OPC and I missed the tyre cracking what with all the tyre gunk they put on, but when I finally got the MOT paperwork it was there as advisories and guess what the OPC had deliberately ignored it.  So a firm word with them and Pirelli UK who were very reasonable had the tyres all replaced.

Sounds like you're not thankfully riding on such bad rubber so may well be just fine to leave as is.

 

Edited June 24, 2021 by GTSMarky

[GTSMarky]

Incidentally I popped along to Cambridge OPC a few weeks ago to have a look at their Viper Green 4.0 GTS and was told it couldn't go anywhere as needed new con rods via a recall & if I ordered one it would be Jan 22 ish..

What's this con rod re-call?

Slightly off topic, but still warranty related I guess...

Lovely car mind and where I'd go next if the BGTS was to be replaced..

Finally the sales guy said he thought the 981 GTS was one of the best cars Porsche had made which was quite open of him.

[iborguk]

We share the same loca

3 minutes ago, GTSMarky said:

Incidentally I popped along to Cambridge OPC a few weeks ago to have a look at their Viper Green 4.0 GTS and was told it couldn't go anywhere as needed new con rods via a recall & if I ordered one it would be Jan 22 ish..

What's this con rod re-call?

Slightly off topic, but still warranty related I guess...

Lovely car mind and where I'd go next if the BGTS was to be replaced..

Finally the sales guy said he thought the 981 GTS was one of the best cars Porsche had made which was quite open of him.

They are one of my local OPCs too

Conrod recall

https://guce.autoblog.com/copyConsent?sessionId=3_cc-session_614858e3-5103-460a-90cf-ab6cdab25be5&lang=en-GB

 

[GTSMarky]

Sales guy said they were replacing the rods not the entire motor which surprised me a bit as that opens up so many other potential issues..

Bit like the 3.8 GT3 motors that had extended warranty perhaps..

I'm sure Porsche will sort it properly

Edited June 24, 2021 by GTSMarky

[daz05]

Friend of mine is still waiting for parts, car arrived in march ! He's been offered a 6yr warranty on the car for his trouble.

[iborguk]

1 minute ago, daz05 said:

Friend of mine is still waiting for parts, car arrived in march ! He's been offered a 6yr warranty on the car for his trouble.

Wow. Doesn't ease the hassle factor but that's something I guess if it's a keeper.

[GTSMarky]

9 minutes ago, daz05 said:

Friend of mine is still waiting for parts, car arrived in march ! He's been offered a 6yr warranty on the car for his trouble.

Yep - I think it was 10 years or similar on the 3.8 replacement motors..

Hopefully he has a long term loaner from Porsche UK?

[GTSMarky]

11 minutes ago, daz05 said:

Friend of mine is still waiting for parts, car arrived in march ! He's been offered a 6yr warranty on the car for his trouble.

So replacing the rods then Daz & not a motor swap.

[GTSMarky]

I'd like to see a time lapse video of that job!

[iborguk]

Yes you'd think it would cost less time/money to drop a new engine in at that rate.