Nobbie Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 Just found these guys mentioned on another forum http://www.edition9.co.uk/4.html Anyone had the paddle shift conversion done? How do you find it? Any downsides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumsterphil Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 My dad has just ordered one of these for his 996 C4S - should be here tomorrow. Once it's fitted will be happy to let you know what it's like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason986S Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 They look good, but just won't be the same as PDK in response either way. Much better than thumb buttons I bet though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumsterphil Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jason986S said: They look good, but just won't be the same as PDK in response either way. Much better than thumb buttons I bet though. Main reason for getting it is that the buttons don't allow a comfortable hand position and they're too easy to catch. (Just to add, there's actually very little wrong with the the tip gearbox IMO; it's very smooth and changes gear nearly imperceptibly, but PDK is something else altogether in speed and response). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 Think I've seen 2 done on this board in the last 2-3 years, but not sure if those members are still with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumsterphil Posted April 24, 2017 Report Share Posted April 24, 2017 Received the wheel today, very pleased with the conversion - now to fit it (and say goodbye to those pesky buttons) - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobbie Posted April 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2017 Looks good, be interesting to see how you find it on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araf Posted April 24, 2017 Report Share Posted April 24, 2017 They look like the Mercedes paddles that people are fitting to lots of other cars. I never had a problem with Tip buttons, and don't really get on with the paddles on the current car - but that's probably because I'm lazy and more often than not leave it in full auto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edc Posted April 24, 2017 Report Share Posted April 24, 2017 Can you remap the gearbox software? I had this done on my C55 and also had some of the aftermarket paddles. It looks neater on an AMG as the buttons are behind the wheel not front and the paddles just clip in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumsterphil Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 5 hours ago, edc said: Can you remap the gearbox software? I had this done on my C55 and also had some of the aftermarket paddles. It looks neater on an AMG as the buttons are behind the wheel not front and the paddles just clip in place. I'm sure you can, but for a 14 yr old gearbox it's pretty good as is. In this case we got Edition9 to supply a buttonless steering wheel and do the conversion that way; it would have looked odd otherwise with buttons and paddles IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumsterphil Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 6 hours ago, Araf said: They look like the Mercedes paddles that people are fitting to lots of other cars. I never had a problem with Tip buttons, and don't really get on with the paddles on the current car - but that's probably because I'm lazy and more often than not leave it in full auto. Think they are the Mercedes paddles - looks good and the action is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alistair.fox Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 Has anyone heard of a Tiptronic remap? I've a 987 3.2S and would like faster changes and JRTuning.co.uk advertise that this can be done. Not sure if they can add Launch Control (aka PDK) also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumsterphil Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 Wheel is now fitted - action is really nice and looks better than the buttons - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobbie Posted April 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 17 minutes ago, drumsterphil said: Wheel is now fitted - action is really nice and looks better than the buttons - Thanks for the update? Seriously tempted to do this, not sure about removing buttons though, may just get paddles fitted to existing three spoke wheel. I'll have to check if you foul the buttons while using the paddles as the hand position will be different to how I currently drive it in manual mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 Do they do a version with one paddle on the bottom of the wheel and the other on the window ledge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araf Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 6 hours ago, alistair.fox said: Has anyone heard of a Tiptronic remap? I've a 987 3.2S and would like faster changes and JRTuning.co.uk advertise that this can be done. Not sure if they can add Launch Control (aka PDK) also? There's no reason why the change cannot be sped up by someone that has broken into the code on the gearbox management. I would guess that Porsche would have made it quicker if they could guarantee the life of the gearbox with a faster change though, so it's your risk. The change can get lazy over time so you could always disconnect the battery for 10 minutes and see if that speeds it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumsterphil Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 3 hours ago, Nobbie said: Thanks for the update? Seriously tempted to do this, not sure about removing buttons though, may just get paddles fitted to existing three spoke wheel. I'll have to check if you foul the buttons while using the paddles as the hand position will be different to how I currently drive it in manual mode. They can convert a tip steering wheel and disconnect the buttons so only the paddles work manually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumsterphil Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 31 minutes ago, Araf said: The change can get lazy over time so you could always disconnect the battery for 10 minutes and see if that speeds it up. One thing I've been told is to ensure that the gearbox oil is changed regularly which restores speed and smoothness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araf Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 Just now, drumsterphil said: One thing I've been told is to ensure that the gearbox oil is changed regularly which restores speed and smoothness. Not by Porsche, you haven't. Service intervals are every 96k miles on older cars and 120k miles on newer ones. Maybe the oil suppliers have got to you or garages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumsterphil Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Araf said: Not by Porsche, you haven't. Service intervals are every 96k miles on older cars and 120k miles on newer ones. Maybe the oil suppliers have got to you or garages? Correct, not by Porsche but by someone who works on these cars day in day out. In the same way that people (myself included) change engine oil sooner than Porsche service intervals, I don't see why gearbox oil should be any different. Think of it this way, if you have a tip box that is sluggish then makes sense to me to do the simple things first before going down the remap route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edc Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 The remap can possibly do other things too. In my AMG it meant in sport mode it would hold the revs longer and not be so keen to change up. The shift speed is also a bit quicker. Also full manual mode was better in that unless you really messed it up it wouldn't change unless you flicked the paddle whereas it would auto change even though it's in manual mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edc Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 Whenever I've had an auto one of the first things I get done is an ATF change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alistair.fox Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 So ATF being changed today. Remap question was based around trying to get 0-60 down - these days a Diesel Golf DSG is fast off the lights ;-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araf Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 11 hours ago, drumsterphil said: 11 hours ago, drumsterphil said: Think of it this way, if you have a tip box that is sluggish then makes sense to me to do the simple things first before going down the remap route. That's why I always suggest people try turning it off and turning it back on again. As for your drawing parallels with engine oil, that's a fair point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobbie Posted April 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 The advice I heard from Northway Porsche was that if it works fine, then leave the ATF well alone. If there's an issue, then maybe it might help, but I wouldn't assume it will always improve matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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