bandit_287 Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 My car is tied into the OPC warranty so I have to use OEM parts but I’m wondering if it would be possible to use the OEM manufactured discs and pads but purchase them from a third party? I’m not sure who Porsche licence to make their 981 OEM discs and pads, maybe Sebro? Would the OEM Porsche disc have noticeable markings on them that they could distinguish from the third party supplied disc. I’m not in desperate need right now as the service and warranty renewal is not until October however the car will have about 35k on it my then and I’m sure they are going to say the brakes need replacing. If I’m going to have to use Porsche OEM discs I may buy them from the OPC in advance of the warranty renewal and have them fitted elsewhere to save their crazy labour cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michelin Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 I've done that in the past. They will never know 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul P Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 Certainly on the 987 there are visible differences with the disks (depending on what manufacturer you use). For what its worth - my OPC got within 50 quid of a respected local indy for supply and fit of genuine front disk/pads/shims/wear sensors/bolts/clips. I simply told them what I had been quoted and they came back with a revised price. I think the safest ( from a preservation of the warrnty standpoint) is buy the bits from OPC and fit them yourself ( or get them fitted if thats your chosen route) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandit_287 Posted January 31, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 36 minutes ago, Paul P said: I think the safest ( from a preservation of the warrnty standpoint) is buy the bits from OPC and fit them yourself ( or get them fitted if thats your chosen route) Yeh I think that’s what I’ll do. Anybody know the current price of OPC brake discs and pads for the 981? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSMarky Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 You need the pad sensors too FYI.. If it's under OPC warranty surely they also have access to what's been done? it's a simple job to replace discs & pads.. Keep an eye on Euro Car Parts as I got a full set of Brembo pads for not much money at all a while ago & plan to replace the discs too at some point. Design 911 worth a look for parts too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandit_287 Posted February 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 If the pad sensors haven’t been tripped then they can be re-used but they’re pretty cheap so yes it’s best practice to change them too. As long as the car is as Porsche intended it doesn’t matter who’s fitted the parts to keep the warranty integrity. Unfortunately i’ll have to buy the parts from the OPC not ECP as they’ll probably notice the non OEM parts during the service in October and reject the warranty renewal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 47 minutes ago, bandit_287 said: If the pad sensors haven’t been tripped then they can be re-used ... If you can get them out of the old pads... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alank Posted February 3, 2023 Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 Just watched a video of changing discs and pads and it does look quite easy, i assume the pistons are just push back and not wind in like some cars ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz05 Posted February 3, 2023 Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 Very easy you can push them out with the old pads inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSMarky Posted February 3, 2023 Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 21 hours ago, bandit_287 said: If the pad sensors haven’t been tripped then they can be re-used but they’re pretty cheap so yes it’s best practice to change them too. As long as the car is as Porsche intended it doesn’t matter who’s fitted the parts to keep the warranty integrity. Unfortunately i’ll have to buy the parts from the OPC not ECP as they’ll probably notice the non OEM parts during the service in October and reject the warranty renewal. You may be lucky and not damage them, personally I'd just buy new ones for the few £'s they cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSMarky Posted February 3, 2023 Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 1 hour ago, alank said: Just watched a video of changing discs and pads and it does look quite easy, i assume the pistons are just push back and not wind in like some cars ? Pistons just push in & out- maybe with a winding tool do you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Days Posted February 3, 2023 Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 Some electric handbrake-equipped vehicles have to have the cylinders retracted using PIWIS I think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Daniel Posted February 3, 2023 Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 On 2/2/2023 at 3:10 PM, bandit_287 said: If the pad sensors haven’t been tripped then they can be re-used but they’re pretty cheap so yes it’s best practice to change them too. As long as the car is as Porsche intended it doesn’t matter who’s fitted the parts to keep the warranty integrity. Unfortunately i’ll have to buy the parts from the OPC not ECP as they’ll probably notice the non OEM parts during the service in October and reject the warranty renewal. I didn't manage to save any of the wear sensors on my last pad change they all were very well bonded in. I replaced pads, discs and sensors all bought from ECP and then had a full service at an OPC followed by warranty renewal. The money I saved paid for 2 years Porsche assist👍. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSMarky Posted February 4, 2023 Report Share Posted February 4, 2023 18 hours ago, Happy Days said: Some electric handbrake-equipped vehicles have to have the cylinders retracted using PIWIS I think. Aren't the electric handbrakes a separate caliper altogether? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz05 Posted February 4, 2023 Report Share Posted February 4, 2023 For the rear it is possible to manually wind back the electronic handbrake by taking it apart like any VW but the simplest way is to get the Carista obd and app on your phone it can do it for about £15. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygo Posted February 4, 2023 Report Share Posted February 4, 2023 There seems to be a big disparity on wear sensor prices, most places seem to sell a single sensor per caliper, I think OEM is one sensor per pad. Wonder if Porsche would notice (or care), especially given they don't warranty pads and discs anyway? 23 hours ago, daz05 said: Very easy you can push them out with the old pads inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted February 4, 2023 Report Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, andygo said: There seems to be a big disparity on wear sensor prices, most places seem to sell a single sensor per caliper, I think OEM is one sensor per pad. Wonder if Porsche would notice (or care), especially given they don't warranty pads and discs anyway? Parts cat shows one single sensor per corner. The 9x6 and 9x7 have a double sensor that connects to each pad at each corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygo Posted February 4, 2023 Report Share Posted February 4, 2023 Thats odd, the old front pads had 1 sensor per pad. Thats good though as you can get single sensor units a lot cheaper from Eurocarparts. Its a moot point for me as I have canned the sensors off anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alank Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 8:41 AM, daz05 said: For the rear it is possible to manually wind back the electronic handbrake by taking it apart like any VW but the simplest way is to get the Carista obd and app on your phone it can do it for about £15. Just a quick question, does this actually need doing, just watched one of the Jeff Richardson videos, and he just pulls off the disc, and puts back on when demonstrating disc removal. Only time i imagine a problem if their is wear in the inside of drum , causing pads to snag on edge. ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz05 Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 Apparently not but I'm yet to change my rear brakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSMarky Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 1:31 PM, andygo said: Thats odd, the old front pads had 1 sensor per pad. Thats good though as you can get single sensor units a lot cheaper from Eurocarparts. Its a moot point for me as I have canned the sensors off anyway. I was on a track day a few years ago @ Castle Combe and my pad sensor warning came on. Good job too as I was out of pad material to the point of being really risky, so canned the rest of the day. If it were me I'd definitely keep the sensors & new ones at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSMarky Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Just now, GTSMarky said: I was on a track day a few years ago @ Castle Combe and my pad sensor warning came on. Good job too as I was out of pad material to the point of being really risky, so canned the rest of the day. If it were me I'd definitely keep the sensors & new ones at that. Bad planning on my behalf as I planned to change the pads after that track day knowing they were low, just didn't look at them well enough in advance so a lesson learnt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygo Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, GTSMarky said: Bad planning on my behalf as I planned to change the pads after that track day knowing they were low, just didn't look at them well enough in advance so a lesson learnt. I dont think I have ever got down to the wear sensors as I always tend to keep an eye on my pads and if Im doing a track day always pop new pads in regardless. Most of the time the pads I tend to use dont have cutouts for wear sensors anyway. (Apologies for the holier than thou tone, not meant to be!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbikerdood Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Just recently changed my discs & pads all round,went to 4 garages for a price 1st local VW/Porsche - £1600 2nd local garage in Somerton - £1400 3rd garage - never got back to me 4th garage - National Tyres in Street - £610 fitted reused sensor cables,Pagid discs & pads all round 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alank Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 That sounds a good price, hardly worth getting hands dirty for that. Have used lots of Pagid on various cars and it seems good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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