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On the side of the gearbox is the Multifunction switch. I suspect that either the switch contacts inside it have broken up (a known issue) or the cable/linkage from the selector lever to the MF switch has broken - possibly a ball joint has popped off.
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I agree with @Paul P and think you need to check the coding with PIWIS. Drop me a PM if you want me to plug mine in. I'm in Maidenhead, so not far away.
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5 minutes ago, Boxsum said:
My climate control says ‘Manuell’
Can this be changed?
They are all like that. German only.
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I seem to recall the language and units can be changed in the SET secion of the OBC. If it is PCM2.0 there are also language settings in MAIN>Set.
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9 hours ago, iborguk said:
I think this is the 981 process for Initialising and calibrating the steering-angle sensor
Yes it is.
4 hours ago, graham964 said:will try a few cycles of lock to lock
That needs to be done during the calibration process that iborguk shows. I doubt it will do anything outside of the calibration routine.
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IF you can move the stalk across, then it might work. Worth a try.
If you need to swap it over, (from memory), there is a single screw holding the clockspring to the stalk unit, and then two plastic clips will release it.
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From what I can make out from the instructions, if you are replacing a basic steering wheel with a basic SD wheel (no heating, sport, sport+ or launch control display) then you might not need to get it coded at all.
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The 'clockspring' unit is also the steering column control module. It will be coded for the donor car, with its VIN, so that is why you are getting the errors. You might be best to put your original clockspring in the 4-stalk, which might get rid of the PSM message.
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16 minutes ago, iborguk said:
Porsche Tequipment Accessories Finder link below for 981 PSE, which shows the standard pricing, worth ringing around OPCs for comparison and any PCGB/Tipec/Group discount available...
That shows it includes painting???????? 😀
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D&4 flashing is definitely an electrical/electronic fault, and will give a fault code in the tiptronic module. As has been said, the multifunction switch on the side of the transmission is a common cause, but a diagnostic check would confirm it.
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OMG! Who was responsible for the centre cap in photo 1?
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I did look at the manual, about changing the clockspring, and it said to read/write the coding data. However, it also said that if you have cruise, MFSW, etc, then you need to get the activation codes from PIWIS online and re-enter them. Of course, Porsche dealers can do this if it was a factory fit, or an official retrofit, but us mere mortals can't get them.
Also, the only reason AnthonyR had to change the clockspring is because he retrofitted a heated wheel.
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I think you will need to re-do the coding. If the stalk is working, it is coded for a standard steering wheel. If it was coded for MFSW, the stalk wouldn't work.
You'll get the steering angle sensor error as a result of disconnecting the clockspring, and it needs initialising, or maybe even calibration. To initialise it, start the car and put the wheels in the straight ahead position. Turn the wheel about 20° to the right, and then back to centre. Drive forward, and when you reach about 2mph the error should go. If that doesn't work, it will need calibrating with PIWIS.
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Digging deeper into the parts list, I found that there are only two versions of the clockspring/control unit for the 981 now:
958.652.568.04 - Without heated steering wheel - £302.46 incl. VAT
958.652.568.14 - With heated steering wheel - £276.55 incl. VATAll previous versions have been replaced with one of these two. I'll leave it to someone else to figure out why it is cheaper for the heated wheel version....
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It is a bit of a minefield, but from what I can make out, it should be 958.652.568.14 (£276.55 incl. VAT). That is the only one I can find for a Manual with MFSW and Steering Wheel Heating.
As you already have them, I would definitely try option (a) first if I were you. After all, that's what the two adapters were designed to do. -
30 minutes ago, AnthonyR said:
Any chance you could dig out the 981 clockspring part no for MFSW and heating in case I have to get another one
Is it Manual or PDK? Do you have Sport Chrono/Sport Chrono plus?
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12 hours ago, AnthonyR said:
The clockspring is: 9A7 953 568 11
The MFSW is: 99104440031A34
That's a 718 clockspring for a heated wheel. It is only used on the 718 - no other models. Unlike the 981 (which has about 8 variants), it looks like there are only two 718 clocksprings - one for heated wheels, and one without. To be honest, I think you are in completely uncharted territory here. I think you have two options. a) Change back to your original clockspring, fit both adapters, and do the coding again (99% likely to work IMO) or b) Leave the 982 clockspring in place, remove the GPS adapters and re-code it (50:50 IMO).
I suspect that if the 718 clockspring worked on a 981 then Porsche would offer it as a replacement for the 981, which they don't. -
25 minutes ago, AnthonyR said:
..... however when we put the coding back to how it was before we started but with the MFSW and new clockspring still fitted the stalk still would not work.
If you left the new clockspring in place, then I think I would expect that to happen. Because the clocksprings are different for MFSW/Non-MFSW, I expect there are different connections inside.
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21 hours ago, AnthonyR said:
I have got to be honest I was in Ian's hands in this, he was following the instructions that are posted on the GPS website and he did it multiple times but to no avail.
I have the full log file if want to have a look at it......
I haven't heard back from the GPS guy as yet either so I am struggling for a solution, otherwise I have a very expensive ornament.....
You lose the stalk control when you code the multi-function wheel. Having read the instructions for fitting the SportDesign paddle wheel to a car which has a multifunction wheel you have to change the stalk unit to give the lower-right stalk, which isn't fitted if it has a MFSW. The instructions also say the SD wheel is only available without heating (I345) by the way.
So it looks like you can have multifunction controls via the a stalk, or via a MFSW, but not both. I did the coding for David today, and that's what happened. I was half tempted to try coding it for a SD wheel AND MFSW, but we thought better of it.
Anyway, the GPS adapter David fitted would seem to make the clockspring/control unit recognise the multifunction controls. Personally, I can't see the point of fitting an adapter AND a new (MFSW) clockspring/control unit. Of course, you need a different clockspring for heating, but if the clockspring you bought was for MFSW and heating, I think you probably have too many units installed. If that was the clockspring you bought, I would try doing the coding without any adapters in place. -
2 hours ago, zagamuffin said:What’s a clock spring btw , pics ??
The proper name is the steering wheel Contact Unit. It is the rotary electrical connection between the steering column and steering wheel. On older cars it was a flat cable that was wound around the column like a clock spring. On the 981 it incorporates the steering column control module as a single unit, whereas they were separate units on the 987.
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4 hours ago, AnthonyR said:
Well that didn't go very well, all fitted on OK and connected up the PIWIS system, then calibrated the steering angle sensor, all good so far but after that it didn't matter which options we selected on the PIWIS, it just wouldn't recognize the multifunction wheel and the heater at all, the mode selector switch works but that is all.
To cap it all the function select lever on the steering column now doesn't work at all either.
Not sure at this time if I have made a mistake in the connecting the adapters or if something is faulty, I have emailed the adapter guy to see what he comes up with
Did you do the Maintenance of Vehicle Data, Automatic Coding of all control modules, and Function Enable with the activation code?
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1 hour ago, 986_in_north said:
Just finished wiring and stalk work for cruise and odb in my 2001 986 S. My car seems to have newer model instrument cluster connectors blue, green and grey. Is it really so there is no wire required from DME to instrument cluster? Pelican proposes wire to black connector 17 - well there is no black connector in my instrument cluster.
Odb works fine but cruise light will not light up. Have not yet done test drive because of snow.
Car is import from Japan now in middle of snow in Finland.
Assuming your car is MODEL YEAR 2001, then here are the connections you need:
DME Plug 4 pin 27 > Stalk Pin 1
Fuse B7 > Stalk Pin 2
DME Plug 4 pin 25 > Stalk Pin 3
DME Plug 4 pin 19 > Stalk Pin 4
There is NO connection to the instrument cluster. I have heard of cases where people have made a connection, and damaged the cruise circuit in the DME. If you haven't made a connection, that's fine, but it sounds to me like it isn't coded properly, or possibly the bulb for the cruise light is bad. I've heard of that happening more than once, and yes, even when the light has never been connected.
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I've used PIAA wipers on all my cars for the last 15 years or so. Wouldn't use anything else.