What have YOU done to your 986 today ?

[Menoporsche]

13 hours ago, GmanB said:

I personally went with non locking stainless steal bolts, easier to clean and in theory should last longer than the alloy ones. The only trouble is that they often look a lot cleaner than the wheels.

I'd be very happy for s/s for the cosmetic reasons. I just wonder if they are OK in terms of metallurgical properties? Either the s/s reacting with the alloy, or that people say wheel bolts are expected to stretch a bit... Am not a metals expert but have seen these issues discussed here before, so hope the above are OK for it.

[½cwt]

38 minutes ago, Menoporsche said:

I'd be very happy for s/s for the cosmetic reasons. I just wonder if they are OK in terms of metallurgical properties? Either the s/s reacting with the alloy, or that people say wheel bolts are expected to stretch a bit... Am not a metals expert but have seen these issues discussed here before, so hope the above are OK for it.

If the floating collar is not s/s and only the bolt that is s/s then it will not come into contact with the alloy therefore no dissimilar electrolytic corrosion which would still be a potential issue with mild steel.  s/s can be more brittle than other mild steel alloys which as a wheel bolt is fitted putting a rotational shear stress into it and performs with a tension and shear loading is quite critical.  However I would have to assume as they are being sold by a reputable source that they have selected the correct s/s alloy and they are fit for purpose.

[GmanB]

14 hours ago, Menoporsche said:

I'd be very happy for s/s for the cosmetic reasons. I just wonder if they are OK in terms of metallurgical properties? Either the s/s reacting with the alloy, or that people say wheel bolts are expected to stretch a bit... Am not a metals expert but have seen these issues discussed here before, so hope the above are OK for it.

I've never heard of stretching wheel bolts tbh, didn't know it was a thing. If mine don't stretch surely just checking the torque every now again would be enough?

I tend to get through tyres quickly so this metal fusion doesn't really get a chance to take place. I drive it a lot, she's not a garage queen by any chance, I also like to just strip the wheels and clean everything thoroughly at least once in the summer. Not worried about metal reacting on the wheels at all, the only part where it could happen is the back side of the wheel and the hub but everyone has that problem. Usually a good kick on a stubborn wheel and it works loose, I've had them on 2 years and no problems what so ever, in fact less problems since I remove the crappy alloy porsche bolts. This may change once the chrome plating lets go and the paint off the alloy is gone, but will update if there are any changes. More than likely the wheel would have been repainted by then. 

[½cwt]

8 hours ago, GmanB said:

I've never heard of stretching wheel bolts tbh, didn't know it was a thing. If mine don't stretch surely just checking the torque every now again would be enough?

I tend to get through tyres quickly so this metal fusion doesn't really get a chance to take place. I drive it a lot, she's not a garage queen by any chance, I also like to just strip the wheels and clean everything thoroughly at least once in the summer. Not worried about metal reacting on the wheels at all, the only part where it could happen is the back side of the wheel and the hub but everyone has that problem. Usually a good kick on a stubborn wheel and it works loose, I've had them on 2 years and no problems what so ever, in fact less problems since I remove the crappy alloy porsche bolts. This may change once the chrome plating lets go and the paint off the alloy is gone, but will update if there are any changes. More than likely the wheel would have been repainted by then. 

Stretch bolts are not uncommon for major suspension (I've seen them on Merc and VW cars before) or cylinder head bolts (K series and some VW engines) that the designer would specify as a one time only fit, but not wheel bolts.  You can often tell a stretch bolts from the tightening criteria, x torque plus a ¼ or ½ extra turn to ensure that fraction of yield.

[½cwt]

Took it for a trip over to my parents today.  Stopped part way to put the hood down. Partly opened it ready to do the Boxster chop and found a split in the bottom left corner of the plastic window.... ☹️😠🤬  Frustrating as I've been really careful to do the chop and also not open it when cold in the two years I've had it.

The question now is - get current hood repaired with new plastic window, fit complete original hood from salvage (but still risks window splitting again), get salvage post facelift complete hood and frame or get new pre-facelift shape hood with glass window from the Forum sponsors?

[PaulQ]

2 minutes ago, ½cwt said:

Took it for a trip over to my parents today.  Stopped part way to put the hood down. Partly opened it ready to do the Boxster chop and found a split in the bottom left corner of the plastic window.... ☹️😠🤬  Frustrating as I've been really careful to do the chop and also not open it when cold in the two years I've had it.

The question now is - get current hood repaired with new plastic window, fit complete original hood from salvage (but still risks window splitting again), get salvage post facelift complete hood and frame or get new pre-facelift shape hood with glass window from the Forum sponsors?

I have this dilemma. Thankfully the screen is still intact atm, I just can't see bugger all through it. 

Steve Strange wants 750 quid for a used facelift roof, which seems very pricey. 

[dunks]

7 minutes ago, ½cwt said:

Took it for a trip over to my parents today.  Stopped part way to put the hood down. Partly opened it ready to do the Boxster chop and found a split in the bottom left corner of the plastic window.... ☹️😠🤬  Frustrating as I've been really careful to do the chop and also not open it when cold in the two years I've had it.

The question now is - get current hood repaired with new plastic window, fit complete original hood from salvage (but still risks window splitting again), get salvage post facelift complete hood and frame or get new pre-facelift shape hood with glass window from the Forum sponsors?

Go for the later glass screen , I got mine changed and it makes the car look a lot more modern , also saves having to get out and do the chop each time. I didnt use the forum sponsors though, I used hoodtech.co.uk , they only work on a mobile basis, yes more expensive than the sponsor, but for me the extra was worth paying instead of having a 5 hours round trip and 5 hours sitting waiting for the roof to be done as well

[½cwt]

11 minutes ago, PaulQ said:

I have this dilemma. Thankfully the screen is still intact atm, I just can't see bugger all through it. 

Steve Strange wants 750 quid for a used facelift roof, which seems very pricey. 

Fortunately mine is just a short crack/split across the bottom corner so will not spread further across the PVC.  Currently discretely patched with some good clear tape.

Given facelift price, Car Hood do the pre-facelift shape but with glass for less than £800 plus fitting so not sure I'd give Steve the money on this occasion.

 

Edited September 5, 2020 by ½cwt

[PaulQ]

3 minutes ago, ½cwt said:

Fortunately mine is just a short crack/split across the bottom corner so will not spread further across the PVC.  Currently discretely patched with some good clear tape.

👍 Will buy you some time.

[½cwt]

5 minutes ago, dunks said:

Go for the later glass screen , I got mine changed and it makes the car look a lot more modern , also saves having to get out and do the chop each time. I didnt use the forum sponsors though, I used hoodtech.co.uk , they only work on a mobile basis, yes more expensive than the sponsor, but for me the extra was worth paying instead of having a 5 hours round trip and 5 hours sitting waiting for the roof to be done as well

Kettering to Warrington is a 2½ hour haul so alas your recommendation isn't an option.  I have through  t'internet found a place in Coventry only 45mins away and a mobile service out of Milton Keynes who will replace just the PVC screen.  A big part of me want to stick with the original shape for the age of the car at least.  It is likely to come down to budget at the end of the day though.

[PaulQ]

5 minutes ago, ½cwt said:

Given facelift price, Car Hood do the pre-facelift shape but with glass for less than £800 plus fitting so not sure I'd give Steve the money on this occasion.

 

Yes, I think the glass looks odd on pre facelift glass hoods though..... 

[dunks]

6 minutes ago, ½cwt said:

Kettering to Warrington is a 2½ hour haul so alas your recommendation isn't an option.  I have through  t'internet found a place in Coventry only 45mins away and a mobile service out of Milton Keynes who will replace just the PVC screen.  A big part of me want to stick with the original shape for the age of the car at least.  It is likely to come down to budget at the end of the day though.

Hoodtec only work on a mobile basis.... They come to you

[½cwt]

2 minutes ago, PaulQ said:

Yes, I think the glass looks odd on pre facelift glass hoods though..... 

A new mohair hood with glass sounds nice, but to be honest I've leaning very much toward getting a pro to replace the PVC panel for under £300, which should last several years and I can't justify a new hood budget currently having checked several places and prices whilst posting these replies.  The fabric on the current hood is in pretty good condition for the age of the car, although I know from the PO that it is the third hood on the car, the original black hood rear screen split on him which he replaced second hand with another black one which also split and then he fitted the current blue one also second hand and I prefer the blue on the Arctic Silver, differentiates it from a lot of the other silver 986s..

[½cwt]

2 minutes ago, dunks said:

Hoodtech only work on a mobile basis.... They come to you

Doh! missed that detail in your post. Thanks.

[PaulQ]

1 minute ago, ½cwt said:

A new mohair hood with glass sounds nice, but to be honest I've leaning very much toward getting a pro to replace the PVC panel for under £300, which should last several years and I can't justify a new hood budget currently having checked several places and prices whilst posting these replies.  The fabric on the current hood is in pretty good condition for the age of the car, although I know from the PO that it is the third hood on the car, the original black hood rear screen split on him which he replaced second hand with another black one which also split and then he fitted the current blue one also second hand and I prefer the blue on the Arctic Silver, differentiates it from a lot of the other silver 986s..

I'm sort of leaning in the same direction. 

Pretty sure the hood is original, and the screen was replaced by Car Hood warehouse (previous owner) around 8 or so years ago, so it's done well considering it lives outside. 

Glass would be nice, but I can't justify spending 800 quid on a car that probably not even worth 2.5k

 

 

[the baron]

4 hours ago, ½cwt said:

A new mohair hood with glass sounds nice, but to be honest I've leaning very much toward getting a pro to replace the PVC panel for under £300, which should last several years and I can't justify a new hood budget currently having checked several places and prices whilst posting these replies.  The fabric on the current hood is in pretty good condition for the age of the car, although I know from the PO that it is the third hood on the car, the original black hood rear screen split on him which he replaced second hand with another black one which also split and then he fitted the current blue one also second hand and I prefer the blue on the Arctic Silver, differentiates it from a lot of the other silver 986s..

I went with the Carhood option, and don't regret it, you get a glass rear window which actually looks good plus it is heated so no issues in the winter, plus you can lower the hood in any temperature, just a few things to consider, I do however from Oct-April have the hardtop installed which changes the dynamics of the car, in looks and comfort.

[½cwt]

5 minutes ago, the baron said:

I went with the Carhood option, and don't regret it, you get a glass rear window which actually looks good plus it is heated so no issues in the winter, plus you can lower the hood in any temperature, just a few things to consider, I do however from Oct-April have the hardtop installed which changes the dynamics of the car, in looks and comfort.

What's rear vision from the interior mirror like from what is quite a narrow rear window?

[the baron]

22 minutes ago, ½cwt said:

What's rear vision from the interior mirror like from what is quite a narrow rear window?

Its actually bigger than you'd think, here's the best pic I've got but if you zoom in on the window you can see its actually quite big and certainly you don't notice any difference from the original when your in the cabin.

For some reason the links are uploading like they used to but if you cut and paste it should work

https://imgur.com/N6m0qSm

[img]https://i.imgur.com/N6m0qSm.jpg[/img]

 

 

Edited September 5, 2020 by the baron

[½cwt]

8 hours ago, the baron said:

Its actually bigger than you'd think, here's the best pic I've got but if you zoom in on the window you can see its actually quite big and certainly you don't notice any difference from the original when your in the cabin.

For some reason the links are uploading like they used to but if you cut and paste it should work

https://imgur.com/N6m0qSm

[img]https://i.imgur.com/N6m0qSm.jpg[/img]

 

 

Thanks Steve.  Budget at the moment is indicating a replacement screen, I haven't got £1k at the moment or even £800 if I DIY fit which I'm not sure about my skills to do this, much more at home with nuts and bolts or wires, but maybe a longer term project I can budget for or for the next time it goes.

Edited September 6, 2020 by ½cwt

[the baron]

1 hour ago, ½cwt said:

Thanks Steve.  Budget at the moment is indicating a replacement screen, I haven't got £1k at the moment or even £800 if I DIY fit which I'm not sure about my skills to do this, much more at home with nuts and bolts or wires, but maybe a longer term project I can budget for or for the next time it goes.

I paid around £600 fully fitted about 3yrs ago so would imagine its well within budget

[½cwt]

4 minutes ago, the baron said:

I paid around £600 fully fitted about 3yrs ago so would imagine its well within budget

I re-read their pricing, looks £775 fitted now unless there is a BoXa.net discount (?), I originally thought that was product only.  That changes the maths a bit. It will, cost £50 in fuel to get the car to them as well, bit I could drop SWMBO off at her mother's in Tunbridge Wells for a visit whilst I take the car to them.  See, Man Maths hard at work here!

[Menoporsche]

IF you have the budget, not sure why anyone would refit plastic. 

[½cwt]

7 minutes ago, Menoporsche said:

IF you have the budget, not sure why anyone would refit plastic. 

Originality?  Got to keep up the tradition of the Boxster chop followed by the anguish of a split screen.  

[edc]

I think if you have the pre facelift the shape of the roof suits the plastic window. Without doubt the aftermarket glass in more practical and will look newer but newness all being equal the plastic screen looks nicer. 

[Menoporsche]

50 minutes ago, ½cwt said:

Originality?  Got to keep up the tradition of the Boxster chop followed by the anguish of a split screen.  

Yup. Goes with the cassette player in the dash.