Paul P Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 4 hours ago, jim o'hara said: just remember that I'm sure the 2.9 is not the new style engine Jim - may have taken your comment out of context - but 2.9 is definitely non ims "new style" engine - it was only available in the 987.2 - when we got to 981 it went back to 2.7.- the "auto" version is PDK not Tiptronic and the interior is more modern version of the 987 (black not silver and different steering wheels etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim o'hara Posted January 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Paul P said: Jim - may have taken your comment out of context - but 2.9 is definitely non ims "new style" engine - it was only available in the 987.2 - when we got to 981 it went back to 2.7.- the "auto" version is PDK not Tiptronic and the interior is more modern version of the 987 (black not silver and different steering wheels etc.) just know that the 2.9 isn't the DFI engine Pau; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim o'hara Posted January 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 6 hours ago, iborguk said: Find one , like mine with the 6 box option ?😀 Love mine. like rocking horse shyate probably though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozen Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Paul P said: Jim - may have taken your comment out of context - but 2.9 is definitely non ims "new style" engine - it was only available in the 987.2 - when we got to 981 it went back to 2.7.- the "auto" version is PDK not Tiptronic and the interior is more modern version of the 987 (black not silver and different steering wheels etc.) This is spot on - I have a 2.9 987.2 - engine is definitely new style non-ims - but does not have DFI. Only the 987.2 S had the DFI change. 981 had both mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim o'hara Posted January 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, frozen said: This is spot on - I have a 2.9 987.2 - engine is definitely new style non-ims - but does not have DFI. Only the 987.2 S had the DFI change. 981 had both mods. thanks for confirming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glosrich Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 Maybe get a inspection done before you buy, might be the best £300 you spend, https://www.porscheinspections.com/index.html Also only buy from a specialist dealer eg. (Portiacraft, Cridfords, 911 virgin, Maundrells, Zuffenhaus etc) they are likely to give you some warranty and will have checked the car over. If your kids are young, also make sure the car has the passenger airbag switch, as not all do, and its £400 for dealer to fit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy p Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 The cheap 987.2 posted on here looks cheap for a reason. Its totally base spec and if the exterior is as rough looking as the interior I wouldn't want that one, never seen a gen2 interior looking that worn!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naim22 Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 On 12/30/2019 at 8:49 AM, Mr96er said: The 5 speed box has its advantages, the 6 speed ratios are closer stacked but the top gear is similar between 5th in a 5 speed and 6th in a 6 speed. In my experience I have actually found the 5 speed to be a sweeter box as it's ready to go straight away and is a bit slicker, whereas the 6 speed can be quite notchy when cold and takes a bit of time to warm up (both experienced on 986s). On certain 987 model years the 5 speed is also cheaper to tax by quite some margin due to the gearing dropping it into the lower CO2 band Likewise with Port injection vs DFI. DFI/GDi has its disadvantages. Carbon buildup can occur on all GDi engines because the fuel injector no longer 'cleans' the intake valves. Port does not suffer from this problem. Port also runs at much lower pressure so does not need a HPFP which simplifies the system. The components such as injectors are also much cheaper/simpler as they run at much lower pressures GDi tends to be stronger at higher rpms but port is stronger at lower. That's why some cars come with both systems fitted and utilised (latest 1.5 Ford fiesta ST being a good example). I'd almost be inclined to say that the 2.9 is for me the most likely variant not to generate a large bill yet still comes close to the budget, issues such as IMS arent present and bore scoring isn't widely reported, it's still the 9A1 with the closed deck design and the powertrain components are simpler than an equivalent DFI variant with less to go wrong. It offers similar power to a 986 3.2 and can be coupled to a manual transmission for maximum simplicity. If I ever do decide to move on from the 986s then it will be this variant I choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim o'hara Posted January 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 4 hours ago, jimmy p said: The cheap 987.2 posted on here looks cheap for a reason. Its totally base spec and if the exterior is as rough looking as the interior I wouldn't want that one, never seen a gen2 interior looking that worn!! if its the auto trader ad, i don't actually see how you can tell that the interior is that worn - apart from 2 switches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim o'hara Posted January 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 11 hours ago, Glosrich said: Maybe get a inspection done before you buy, might be the best £300 you spend, https://www.porscheinspections.com/index.html Also only buy from a specialist dealer eg. (Portiacraft, Cridfords, 911 virgin, Maundrells, Zuffenhaus etc) they are likely to give you some warranty and will have checked the car over. If your kids are young, also make sure the car has the passenger airbag switch, as not all do, and its £400 for dealer to fit it. good shout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim o'hara Posted January 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 28 minutes ago, naim22 said: The 5 speed box has its advantages, the 6 speed ratios are closer stacked but the top gear is similar between 5th in a 5 speed and 6th in a 6 speed. In my experience I have actually found the 5 speed to be a sweeter box as it's ready to go straight away and is a bit slicker, whereas the 6 speed can be quite notchy when cold and takes a bit of time to warm up (both experienced on 986s). On certain 987 model years the 5 speed is also cheaper to tax by quite some margin due to the gearing dropping it into the lower CO2 band Likewise with Port injection vs DFI. DFI/GDi has its disadvantages. Carbon buildup can occur on all GDi engines because the fuel injector no longer 'cleans' the intake valves. Port does not suffer from this problem. Port also runs at much lower pressure so does not need a HPFP which simplifies the system. The components such as injectors are also much cheaper/simpler as they run at much lower pressures GDi tends to be stronger at higher rpms but port is stronger at lower. That's why some cars come with both systems fitted and utilised (latest 1.5 Ford fiesta ST being a good example). I'd almost be inclined to say that the 2.9 is for me the most likely variant not to generate a large bill yet still comes close to the budget, issues such as IMS arent present and bore scoring isn't widely reported, it's still the 9A1 with the closed deck design and the powertrain components are simpler than an equivalent DFI variant with less to go wrong. It offers similar power to a 986 3.2 and can be coupled to a manual transmission for maximum simplicity. If I ever do decide to move on from the 986s then it will be this variant I choose. thank a lot for your knowledge - without doubt, the 2.9 is the one now that i am favouring (although Cayman rather than Boxster) jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat1 Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 I spent a long time doing the man maths and the 2.9 ended up being the sweet spot. The previous owner had some scary bills but I've made a point of shopping/travelling around for the best prices. On second thoughts that might be a good way to save some cash - buy a car that needs some work from an expensive part of the country, get them to price it in then get it done somewhere much cheaper. I couldn't believe the spread of prices for small jobs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim o'hara Posted January 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 16 hours ago, mat1 said: I spent a long time doing the man maths and the 2.9 ended up being the sweet spot. The previous owner had some scary bills but I've made a point of shopping/travelling around for the best prices. On second thoughts that might be a good way to save some cash - buy a car that needs some work from an expensive part of the country, get them to price it in then get it done somewhere much cheaper. I couldn't believe the spread of prices for small jobs.. thanks Mat, not a bad idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAZ Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 On 1/1/2020 at 1:06 PM, iborguk said: Find one , like mine with the 6 box option ?😀 Love mine. Yep ! My 987.1 SE has 6 speed - can be a bit dangerous though - only because my daily is a 5 speed Fiesta and it’s reverse is where 6 is on the pork 😱 i’ve come close to putting the Fiesta into reverse from 5th after i’ve been in the Boxster but luckily just pulled back in time once or twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iborguk Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, CAZ said: Yep ! My 987.1 SE has 6 speed - can be a bit dangerous though - only because my daily is a 5 speed Fiesta and it’s reverse is where 6 is on the pork 😱 i’ve come close to putting the Fiesta into reverse from 5th after i’ve been in the Boxster but luckily just pulled back in time once or twice. I knew someone whose party piece was to dip the clutch on their Morris Marina so the reverse lights came on after canning it out of a golf club and up a hill. One day they got it wrong and actually got into reverse gear whilst the car was in forward motion with predictable field ending results. Fortunately they walked away from it but the Marina didn't buff out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edc Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 hours ago, CAZ said: Yep ! My 987.1 SE has 6 speed - can be a bit dangerous though - only because my daily is a 5 speed Fiesta and it’s reverse is where 6 is on the pork 😱 i’ve come close to putting the Fiesta into reverse from 5th after i’ve been in the Boxster but luckily just pulled back in time once or twice. There's been a few times when I've been flat out in top gear and pulled back just in time too 😜🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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