zcacogp Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 Chaps, I think my 987.1 2.7 will need some new brake bits this year. Wanting to take advantage of the January sales (and ignoring the fact that I have no money - hey, that's what credit cards are for eh?) I've looked online for disks and pads for the front and back of the car. Everyone recommends the usual brands; Mintex and Pagid and Brembo. All good stuff but they seem to be in the range of £80 or so per disk and the same for a set of pads for an axle. However Brakeparts.co.uk are offering Ferodo stuff for around £40/front disk and a similar price for the pads. I've used Brakeparts.co.uk before and they are good, and Ferodo is not an unknown brand (OE fit for Rolls and Bentley, apparently!) Has anyone used their stuff on a 987 and is it any good? My only concern is that it's suspiciously cheap and a fair bit of google-fu has failed to find any kind of review of them for Porsche applications (other than the DS2500 and DS3000 pads, which people either love or hate). So, has anyone used Ferodo stuff on their Porsche and is it any good? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zcacogp Posted January 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 Probably should add some links. Front disks: https://brakeparts.co.uk/shop/Porsche/Cayman/05-13/Cayman 2.7 Coupe/Front - Brake Discs and Drums Front pads: https://brakeparts.co.uk/shop/Porsche/Cayman/05-13/Cayman 2.7 Coupe/Front - Brake Pads and Shoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveEFI Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 Ferodo is certainly a brand I know and respected from many years ago. Whether it is still the same high quality maker, I dunno. So many companies get bought up for the name these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macthehaggis Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 No experience with Ferodo on cars but have used them on my motorcycle and they were as good as anything else. I replaced my 987.1S discs and pads recently with Pagid. The original pads were ok but was advised to change as a set. New pads left terrible brown dust on the alloys even after short journeys, so bad that I reinserted the original pads! Not sure if Brembo or Ferodo would be any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edc Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 If the brown dust was the surface corrosion on the inboard side of the disc then it should stop after a few journeys of cleaning up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveEFI Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 I've just spent quite a bit of time looking for new brakes complete for my 987.2 S. And comparing prices in the UK a nightmare with so many discount vouchers and so on, with the likes of ECP not seeming to have them all from one maker. But did want a make I could trust - or rather as much as any. And reasoned sourcing it all from one supplier should give the very best deal. Eventually found a complete kit on Ebay. All the discs and all the pads by Brembo. Sensors Einbach. Total cost delivered £389. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FOR-PORSCHE-BOXSTER-CAYMAN-986-987-FRONT-REAR-GENUINE-BREMBO-BRAKE-DISCS-PADS/153092718662?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649 One thing that impressed about this seller is they didn't seem to pluck a maker RRP out of thin air.😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macthehaggis Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 54 minutes ago, edc said: If the brown dust was the surface corrosion on the inboard side of the disc then it should stop after a few journeys of cleaning up. Thanks EDC but Brand new Pagid brake discs as well as the pads, so no corrosion that could cause that. I drove around for 1 month but dust kept gathering on the alloys. Swap back to originals and problem resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zcacogp Posted January 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 Chaps, Thanks for the replies. It sounds like no-one has direct experience but Ferodo were and probably still are a decent manufacturer. DaveEFI - I entirely agree about the difficulty of comparing prices. It's not simple. However your link at £389 is a lot more expensive; the company I posted links to would do the lot (F and R, pads and disks) for around £250 using Ferodo kit. I'm know not comparing like with like as I am pricing up for an early 2.7 and yours is a late 3.4 but that is over 50% more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricof Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 I would consider Brembo, ABS and Textar. The Ferodo deal for £250 seems too good to be true. Brakes and tyres are one area you shouldn't be scrimping on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sa utah Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 The Brembo stuff is so reasonable I can’t see the point looking at Ferodo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveEFI Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 hours ago, zcacogp said: Chaps, Thanks for the replies. It sounds like no-one has direct experience but Ferodo were and probably still are a decent manufacturer. DaveEFI - I entirely agree about the difficulty of comparing prices. It's not simple. However your link at £389 is a lot more expensive; the company I posted links to would do the lot (F and R, pads and disks) for around £250 using Ferodo kit. I'm know not comparing like with like as I am pricing up for an early 2.7 and yours is a late 3.4 but that is over 50% more. It's what worries me. At one time Ferodo was a premium brand. No idea who owns it now, and if they still are. It's a minefield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenman Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 The main Ferodo UK factory is 1/2 mile down the road from me, and they do still make products in the UK. They are now owned by Federal Mogul a US car part manufacturer. They also now have factories all over the world so without further research it may be difficult knowing where the particular products you are interested in are manufactured. So like many brands they appear to make products at different price points, I would be very surprised if a £40 pad set is UK made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulQ Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 Shop around. A quick look and a pair of Pagid front discs & pads from ecp on ebay is under 130 quid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zcacogp Posted January 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Greenman said: I would be very surprised if a £40 pad set is UK made. Points taken, thanks chaps. However we still have nothing definitive on whether this Ferodo stuff is any good or not. I know I am playing Devils Advocate here but none of you have said definitively whether it's good, bad or otherwise; just speculation based on price. FWIW, that website lists Mintex pads at £30.95 for a front axle set. And Mintex is one of the brands that is routinely recommended. I'll therefore not rush to discount the Ferodo kit for being too cheap. I'm almost tempted to order a set to see what they are like. If they are clearly shonky then I can return them for a refund. How do you tell a good quality set of brake disks and/or pads by looking at them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulQ Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 37 minutes ago, zcacogp said: Points taken, thanks chaps. However we still have nothing definitive on whether this Ferodo stuff is any good or not. I know I am playing Devils Advocate here but none of you have said definitively whether it's good, bad or otherwise; just speculation based on price. FWIW, that website lists Mintex pads at £30.95 for a front axle set. And Mintex is one of the brands that is routinely recommended. I'll therefore not rush to discount the Ferodo kit for being too cheap. I'm almost tempted to order a set to see what they are like. If they are clearly shonky then I can return them for a refund. How do you tell a good quality set of brake disks and/or pads by looking at them? I'm sure they will be absolutely fine, but I guess people are reluctant to recommend them if they haven't actually tried them. Can't really see the point though when you could buy Pagid discs and pads all round for the same price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zcacogp Posted January 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 Paul, Well put, and thanks. I see where you are coming from. I guess I'm curious as much as anything. And perhaps willing to try something that others don't have. The idea of sale-or-return is appealing; if they appear to be low quality (in so far as you can tell from looking at them) then I'd still have the option of sending them back. Good point about the saving over Pagids being small though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenman Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 I doubt you can tell much by looking to be honest. Pagid are not much different either, they have multiple manufacturing sites with products at different price points, so just relying on the brand is no guarantee. So you really need direct experience of the particular product/application, I know that’s exactly what you are asking. So unless you get some direct feedback it’s just taking a punt. Chances are that a £40 Ferodo pad will be similar quality to a £40Pagid or £40 Mintex or Brembo pad. All are respected brands with at least some reputation to protect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 On the better discs you will find the bells are coated and don’t rust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveEFI Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, bally4563 said: On the better discs you will find the bells are coated and don’t rust Does that make them better discs, though? Like painting the callipers yellow?😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sa utah Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 Definitely better If you have a vehicle that does few miles and you like to keep looking as good as possible. I like the Brembo as the coating keeps them looking as new. Nothing looks worse than a rusty brake disc against your perfect alloy wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 3 hours ago, sa utah said: Definitely better If you have a vehicle that does few miles and you like to keep looking as good as possible. I like the Brembo as the coating keeps them looking as new. Nothing looks worse than a rusty brake disc against your perfect alloy wheels. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entdgc Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 7 hours ago, sa utah said: Definitely better If you have a vehicle that does few miles and you like to keep looking as good as possible. I like the Brembo as the coating keeps them looking as new. Nothing looks worse than a rusty brake disc against your perfect alloy wheels. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zcacogp Posted January 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 Just to be argumentative, is there any reason why you shouldn't apply some paint of your own to the bells on the brake disks if they arrive al fresco? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulQ Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 Yes, you can paint them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sa utah Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 Paint your own bell. You can’t write comedy like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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