ghazalif Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 I live in London near Wembley and I'm looking to replace the IMS bearing on an 04 986. Revolution Porsche (in Leeds) quoted me 1620 pounds all in. Is there anywhere closer to London that offers a similar price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike597 Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 Doubtful but start here : 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southy Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 24 minutes ago, ghazalif said: I live in London near Wembley and I'm looking to replace the IMS bearing on an 04 986. Revolution Porsche (in Leeds) quoted me 1620 pounds all in. Is there anywhere closer to London that offers a similar price? You could speak to Lee at Cotswold Porsche - Site sponsor https://www.cotswoldspecialists.co.uk/ Contact us Get in touch 01242 620 180 info@cotswoldspecialists.co.uk Cotswold Porsche Specialists Ltd Unit 4 Alpha, Orchard Industrial Estate, Toddington, Gloucestershire, GL54 5EB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edc Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 Bear in mind that there are different bearings and solutions some packaged with RMS or clutch and some not. Make sure you are getting a like for like comparison. Eporsch use the EPS roller bearing for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghazalif Posted June 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 5 hours ago, edc said: Bear in mind that there are different bearings and solutions some packaged with RMS or clutch and some not. Make sure you are getting a like for like comparison. Eporsch use the EPS roller bearing for example. I'm looking at triptronic 986s and I'd assume the repair person would know which bearings to use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike597 Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 51 minutes ago, edc said: Bear in mind that there are different bearings and solutions some packaged with RMS or clutch and some not. Make sure you are getting a like for like comparison. Eporsch use the EPS roller bearing for example. Which is about 600 quid part only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinewood Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 Give Sid a ring at Porsche Torque in Uxbridge. Also means you can catch the Met line back to Wembley. tell him Kam recommended 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike597 Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, ghazalif said: I'm looking at triptronic 986s and I'd assume the repair person would know which bearings to use I think the part alone price ranges from about £15 for oem to £1500 for the LN Engineering IMS solution. So it's not just a case of the repair person knowing the right bearing. You need to know what you're prepared to spend. Edited June 30, 2021 by mike597 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinjohn308 Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 I’ve been using Tony of Carrera Engineering he based in Nazeing EN9 2RJ for the last 10 years looks after my 2002 3.2S and Audi A4 2.0 TDI. Excellent workmanship not a million miles from Wembley, top bloke. Phone number: 01992 892333 give him a ring. Regards, Martin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxob Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 hour ago, ghazalif said: I'm looking at triptronic 986s and I'd assume the repair person would know which bearings to use I thought the general wisdom is that tiptronics have a much reduced IMS bearing failure rate so precautionary changes are harder to justify. In the 11 years I've been on this forum I can't recall one such failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghazalif Posted June 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Boxob said: I thought the general wisdom is that tiptronics have a much reduced IMS bearing failure rate so precautionary changes are harder to justify. In the 11 years I've been on this forum I can't recall one such failure. Is that true? Is there a reasoning behind the lower failures on the tiptronics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxob Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, ghazalif said: Is that true? Is there a reasoning behind the lower failures on the tiptronics? It's certainly true that I don't recall such a failure being reported on here. The "general wisdom" is from posts on here and casual internet research I've done on the IMS bearing issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghazalif Posted June 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Boxob said: It's certainly true that I don't recall such a failure being reported on here. The "general wisdom" is from posts on here and casual internet research I've done on the IMS bearing issue. Interesting, I’ll have to do my own research. I never really looked into whether there’s a difference in failure rates due to the transmission Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxob Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, ghazalif said: Interesting, I’ll have to do my own research. I never really looked into whether there’s a difference in failure rates due to the transmission It could be just a function of there being fewer tips than manuals so fewer reports of failures but then again it could be due to the absence of a clutch? The problem is getting at the facts! Worth researching before spending! Edited June 30, 2021 by Boxob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghazalif Posted June 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, Boxob said: It could be just a function of there being fewer tips than manuals so fewer reports of failures but then again it could be due to the absence of a clutch? The problem is getting at the facts! Worth researching before spending! There are no facts, there are only stories from owners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxob Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 minute ago, ghazalif said: There are no facts, there are only stories from owners Hence the problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.I.T.T. Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, ghazalif said: There are no facts, there are only stories from owners people on the internet Which, I guess is a factor in you wanting to replace it. Just drive the damn thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike597 Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, K.I.T.T. said: Which, I guess is a factor in you wanting to replace it. Just drive the damn thing. He's not actually bought it yet and my guess is he won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghazalif Posted June 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 Just now, mike597 said: He's not actually bought it yet and my guess is he won't. I’m definitely buying it. The only question is whether to replace the IMS or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike597 Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 25 minutes ago, ghazalif said: I’m definitely buying it. The only question is whether to replace the IMS or not I hope you do. But I've seen a lot like you that fret about IMS and end up buying a BMW instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 There are only 2 original IMS bearings, dual row in earlier cars, single row in later cars. If changing/upgrading, it is a case of just changing the original like for like, or which after market kit, whether roller bearing, oil fed bearing or ceramic bearing. All are at different price points. Really do your research before committing to a £1000 to £1700 project. Also bear in mind that unless done recently you could well be looking at fresh suspension arms, drop links, top mounts, engine mount, ARB pushes, shocks, discs and pads, clutch, rear main seal, battery, tyres. All of which if not done DIY with careful buying of parts where possible would pretty much double or more your purchase budget even if you spread it over a couple of years... I've chosen to do a lot of things on mine like 18" rims (£1k with tyres), new head unit & speakers and retro fit cruise control (£250) but if I'm honest with myself I've spent over £4k on DIY work and repairs in about 3 years on a car that cost just under £5k and might now be worth just over £5k. £1600 of that was a full suspension refresh. Don't go looking for work to do, the car will give you plenty at 17 years old unless it has a 100% copper bottomed fully documented service record with all the key things above done recently! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clivescoobydo Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Boxob said: I thought the general wisdom is that tiptronics have a much reduced IMS bearing failure rate so precautionary changes are harder to justify. In the 11 years I've been on this forum I can't recall one such failure. Has there been any on this forum manual or tip? Not that I believe it but I thought tips were more likely to fail due to typically lazy gear changes causing lower oil lubrication... Edited June 30, 2021 by Clivescoobydo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clivescoobydo Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) From what I've read if the bearing you remove is showing signs of damage then your likely going to have to change again in the future and if it isn't damaged you didn't need to change in the first place so both point to go with with the cheapest imho. Be really interesting to know the condition of all those original bearings that have been changed, age, mileage etc. Edited June 30, 2021 by Clivescoobydo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghazalif Posted June 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 hour ago, mike597 said: I hope you do. But I've seen a lot like you that fret about IMS and end up buying a BMW instead. Haha I wouldn’t do this much research then buy a BMW. I rented a 2016 boxster last year and fell in love; I won’t settle. The simple fact is that the IMS became a class action lawsuit for a reason. I don’t think it’s completely smoke and mirrors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castaway Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, ½cwt said: There are only 2 original IMS bearings, dual row in earlier cars, single row in later cars. If changing/upgrading, it is a case of just changing the original like for like, or which after market kit, whether roller bearing, oil fed bearing or ceramic bearing. All are at different price points. Really do your research before committing to a £1000 to £1700 project. Also bear in mind that unless done recently you could well be looking at fresh suspension arms, drop links, top mounts, engine mount, ARB pushes, shocks, discs and pads, clutch, rear main seal, battery, tyres. All of which if not done DIY with careful buying of parts where possible would pretty much double or more your purchase budget even if you spread it over a couple of years... I've chosen to do a lot of things on mine like 18" rims (£1k with tyres), new head unit & speakers and retro fit cruise control (£250) but if I'm honest with myself I've spent over £4k on DIY work and repairs in about 3 years on a car that cost just under £5k and might now be worth just over £5k. £1600 of that was a full suspension refresh. Don't go looking for work to do, the car will give you plenty at 17 years old unless it has a 100% copper bottomed fully documented service record with all the key things above done recently! What he said. Save your money and replace the IMS only if it begins to go, which it probably won’t. You’ll need the money for suspension and brakes, 4-wheel alignment and other surprises the car throws at you (£200 yesterday for a new steering lock)! I spent £1600 on a suspension refresh just to get the car to handle like it should and without creaking. Edited July 1, 2021 by Castaway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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