bally4563 Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, bally4563 said: Pics are deceptive, but that does look like is pointing towards the vicar Anyway you can leave it hanging in place , just slightly loosen the bottom wishbone bolt and it will allow you to drop it out of the hub( drop link removed of course! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M635uk Posted November 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M635uk Posted November 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 Out looks straight though, will measure tomorrow with a straight edge… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M635uk Posted November 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 Ok, strut assembly out of car, rotating the shaft shows the shaft to be bent, not much by definitely a bend on it and it can be seen as a wobble on the top mount as it rotates, don’t know if that is the extent of the issue, perhaps the struct body is bent too. I’ll take the other strut assembly off tomorrow and compare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 I can recommend Koni Special Active struts as a good alterative to the more costly Bilstein B4s that are OE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M635uk Posted November 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 hours ago, ½cwt said: I can recommend Koni Special Active struts as a good alterative to the more costly Bilstein B4s that are OE. Ok sounds good. Which supplier? Ta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 Autodoc. Check to see when they are at 30% discount, it comer round very few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBB Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 7 hours ago, bally4563 said: I would say you have a bent strut Great diagnosis @bally4563 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M635uk Posted November 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 Hi, update as follows. bought two new struts, b4 bilstein from Design911, £290 delivered which i thought was reasonable. Fitted both and re measured front camber Remember I was +2.5 deg front left and -3.5 front right with strut mounts slots set a max respectively to try and correct. So 6 deg difference.🤔 with new struts. -1.5 deg front left (4 deg change) and +0.5 degree front right (4 degree change). So a big change and now only 2 degree difference.😊 With the top mount slots set at max as before I should be able to correct to get it somewhere very close to zero difference. Then get the toe corrected to suit. so the problem looks like bent front strut housings and also one bent strut shaft. Right side shaft was not bent. I’ll post final alignment readings when they are done on the local hunter machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edc Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 How does it get that bent and you not notice the impact or break a wheel? Did it happen before your ownership? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennym1984 Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 Whilst you're in there, you may want to check the actual hub assemblies. These can be bent or have manufacturing tolerances that will create a difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M635uk Posted November 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 30 minutes ago, edc said: How does it get that bent and you not notice the impact or break a wheel? Did it happen before your ownership? The only part that you see is bent was the lhs strut shaft. It had a run out of about 3mm when rotated. The struts themselves had bends but only noticeable with a straight edge and even then only marginal. They were also quite rusty. looking the wheels themselves you could see the lhs was positive camber slightly, rhs was negative camber. had a good look at the control arms, hub assemblies and no noticeable damage. Suspect it was before my ownership at 57k miles, invoice claims alignment at Porsche at 53k miles, maybe it was the reason for the sale? Haven’t hit anything although pot holes in the Peak District can be Cavernous if you can excuse the pun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M635uk Posted November 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 38 minutes ago, Lennym1984 said: Whilst you're in there, you may want to check the actual hub assemblies. These can be bent or have manufacturing tolerances that will create a difference Had a good look and they seem fine, would there be a method to check tolerances of the hub assembly? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M635uk Posted November 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 Given I have about 13mm total adjustment on the top strut mount slots I calculate this will give about 1.15 degree per side. So I should be able to get both sides equalised at about -0.5 degree. Which I would be more than happy with from where I started! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M635uk Posted November 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 Just set from camber to -0.6 deg left and right, steering wheel now off centre of course but easily corrected when I get the final toe done. Think I am getting there now. Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edc Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 You can widen the slot about 5mm until the strut hits the tower. This should allow up to about 2.5 Deg neg camber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, M635uk said: Just set from camber to -0.6 deg left and right, steering wheel now off centre of course but easily corrected when I get the final toe done. Think I am getting there now. Thanks Good work and problem solving. Best of luck and hope you enjoy it even more once correctly tracked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M635uk Posted November 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 21 hours ago, edc said: You can widen the slot about 5mm until the strut hits the tower. This should allow up to about 2.5 Deg neg camber. Good to know especially if I take a visit to Oulton Park👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M635uk Posted November 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 20 hours ago, ½cwt said: Good work and problem solving. Best of luck and hope you enjoy it even more once correctly tracked. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 Good result,from a armchair diagnosis! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizz Posted April 20, 2023 Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 This thread hurt my noob head but was good to learn a bit. So im hoping to get my car back after having a full suspension overhaul inc all the arms, shocks (Koni Active), springs (H&R m030), drop links etc... Im booked in to have the alignment and camber done so before i go next week, should i stick to what the factory default or suggest any deviations from it? My car is used daily for short trips and weekend blasts round the dales and im also looking to take it on track a couple of times a year. Cheers in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted April 20, 2023 Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 2 hours ago, fizz said: This thread hurt my noob head but was good to learn a bit. So im hoping to get my car back after having a full suspension overhaul inc all the arms, shocks (Koni Active), springs (H&R m030), drop links etc... Im booked in to have the alignment and camber done so before i go next week, should i stick to what the factory default or suggest any deviations from it? My car is used daily for short trips and weekend blasts round the dales and im also looking to take it on track a couple of times a year. Cheers in advance. Go default. Make sure they select Sports Chassis as your I believe had standard suspension before the rebuild. It makes a small difference to the camber setting range. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizz Posted April 20, 2023 Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 41 minutes ago, ½cwt said: Go default. Make sure they select Sports Chassis as your I believe had standard suspension before the rebuild. It makes a small difference to the camber setting range. That's exactly what I was after mate. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edc Posted April 20, 2023 Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 If you don't know what you want or don't feel the car lacking then stick to something on the standard range. As you learn and ouch the car and develop some driving preference you can fine tune the geo. The colours on the chart just show you whether you are within the manufacturer tolerance. My cambers are all red as that is what I have chosen. Equally as important is to ensure you have a good cross axle balance. And if you want to be more an*l about it as the car up weighted with ballast to your normal driving mode. For me that means half a tank of fuel 70 kg in the front seat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizz Posted April 20, 2023 Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 Well I'm 100kg ballast to begin with 🤣 so prolly better off filling the tank up before going down. I think the tank is up the front behind the axle if I'm correct. With regards to driving styles... I've only ever know this car as very very tail happy due to shyatety old tyres I was running for 18 months. Then all the suspension bits they've taken off were in a right state All the bushes and rubber perished so it's going to be a night and day difference. I hate understeer and used to love Turing in whilst trail braking in my mr2 turbo. Either way will be loads better. 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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