JurassicBGTS Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 Mine is going in for a front PPF. The kit has PPF for the headlights also. However given some have experienced headlight crazing (not heard it on 718s yet though) is PPF a good or bad thing for LED headlights? @Patt your up on these things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patt Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 I have PPF and cermaic on top of that. It's been on there 5 1/2 years with no issues. And the lights take absolute and a huge beating from road debris. Should I need to replace the film, I am fully aware it may take the clear "UV protection" coat off at the same time. However a quick machine and new PPF and no-one would be the wiser.At £2000 a piece its worth trying to protect them,. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daviddurham Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) I am also interested in this as my car will be getting PPF when it arrives. I have read a couple of things that was making me consider excluding the headlights. 1 I understand that Expel themselves do not warrant application on headlights 2 I have seen a photo of an owners manual that also says not to do it, which in the event of any headlight issues would give Porsche an easy out on a warranty claim. @JurassicBGTS I can’t find anything with an on-line type manual. Have you got one to check. It reads something like below: Headlights NOTICE Abrasion and excessive temperatures can damage the headlights. • Do not affix any coverings (e.g. stone guards or films) in the area of the headlights. Information The headlights can mist up due to temperature and humidity. This misting will disappear after … Just found the same wording in a 2023 911 992 manual. Edited July 28, 2023 by daviddurham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patt Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 I've had one of my PDLS headlights replaced under warranty at Reading - it had Expel film fitted when the motor gave up. They did quote me £80 to replace the film too ! Before they fitted the film the installer did ask if I was aware removal would more than likely not be a perfect job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPS Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 My PPF installer said that if the film needed to be removed, it may also pull off some of the tinting on the lights. So I decided to omit film on the lights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonshine Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 My detailer said not to PPF the lights 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 I’ve had PPF on all my headlights over the last 8 years or so without problem - all have been LED though so don’t get hot. S 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurassicBGTS Posted July 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 22 hours ago, daviddurham said: I am also interested in this as my car will be getting PPF when it arrives. I have read a couple of things that was making me consider excluding the headlights. 1 I understand that Expel themselves do not warrant application on headlights 2 I have seen a photo of an owners manual that also says not to do it, which in the event of any headlight issues would give Porsche an easy out on a warranty claim. @JurassicBGTS I can’t find anything with an on-line type manual. Have you got one to check. It reads something like below: Headlights NOTICE Abrasion and excessive temperatures can damage the headlights. • Do not affix any coverings (e.g. stone guards or films) in the area of the headlights. Information The headlights can mist up due to temperature and humidity. This misting will disappear after … Just found the same wording in a 2023 911 992 manual. I will have a look on Porsche "Good to know"👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topbox Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 On 7/28/2023 at 8:16 AM, Patt said: I have PPF and cermaic on top of that. It's been on there 5 1/2 years with no issues. And the lights take absolute and a huge beating from road debris. Should I need to replace the film, I am fully aware it may take the clear "UV protection" coat off at the same time. However a quick machine and new PPF and no-one would be the wiser.At £2000 a piece its worth trying to protect them,. If your buying new that logic is particularly difficult to fault Patt 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Daniel Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 My fiend has a PPF business and does the work for 2 local OPC's, he PPF's headlights without any problems. I wish mine had been done from new as they have a few marks on now, my new windscreen is being PPF'd wednesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurassicBGTS Posted July 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2023 I met with the installer today at a "Cars and Coffee" event he sponsors. His comments and advice is, that although the PPF pre-cut kit comes with headlight coverings they are now advised not to cover the headlights on a Porsche. It is the only car manufacturer that has this advisory from the film manufacturer. Also the Porsche manual does state not to PPF. He has PPFd some and not PPFd some! The issue is if they have a problem with installation it will remove the Porsche coating. He is happy to do it, but his personal advice is not to PPF them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurassicBGTS Posted July 31, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2023 On 7/29/2023 at 10:10 AM, Tony Daniel said: My fiend has a PPF business and does the work for 2 local OPC's, he PPF's headlights without any problems. I wish mine had been done from new as they have a few marks on now, my new windscreen is being PPF'd wednesday. Maybe the 981 and 718 have different coatings on the headlights, or the newer Porsches in general have? My 718 lights certainly look to be darker than my old 981 or my 2018 Macan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Days Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 I had both headlights replaced about 2 years ago due to crazing. The new ones are starting to go too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zagamuffin Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 not clear PPF but I tried adding tinted PPF/Film to smoke the front rear clear sections , might also protect against stone chips as a side benefit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygo Posted August 14, 2023 Report Share Posted August 14, 2023 Yje headlights on my 981 Cayman are starting to craze at the top of the headlights where the black border is. Wonder if I can polish that area and apply clearcoat without it showing? I accept that PPF would still require at least partial correction of the surface anyway, so similar concern of the 'join' being visible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moospeed Posted August 15, 2023 Report Share Posted August 15, 2023 What causes the crazing? Speaking to a dealer a couple of weeks ago he was trying to tell me that “they are te years old, they’ve all got it”. I pointed out that my 2013 car didn’t. And the 2014 car I’ve replaced it with also doesn’t show any signs. Are they less prone when garaged? The dealer reckoned not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iborguk Posted August 15, 2023 Report Share Posted August 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, moospeed said: What causes the crazing? Speaking to a dealer a couple of weeks ago he was trying to tell me that “they are te years old, they’ve all got it”. I pointed out that my 2013 car didn’t. And the 2014 car I’ve replaced it with also doesn’t show any signs. Are they less prone when garaged? The dealer reckoned not. UV/heat , I think personally it’s less prone on garaged cars. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurassicBGTS Posted August 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2023 My 2013 car had absolutely no signs of any crazing. It's not something you really see on any other makes either, maybe dulling or yellowing but not the crazing some are experiencing with their Porsche😡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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