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PASM Fault after low battery


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Inbetween some icy mornings and a week on holiday I came back to find my Cayman not happy about starting up. 

I put the car on charge and it now fires up. So far so good... 

Unfortunately I have a message advising me I have a "PASM fault" and that it is "Possible to drive on carefully".

I have tried multiple code readers now and not one displays an issue. 

Voltage before start up is 12.2v but down to 11.9v sometimes. During driving it is showing 14.1v. 

I've done about 90 miles since the power has been restored.

Has anyone been in this situation before? Car drives fine, PASM still seems to  be working just no Sport and annoying message constantly showing up! 

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Just now, toby_b said:

Inbetween some icy mornings and a week on holiday I came back to find my Cayman not happy about starting up. 

I put the car on charge and it now fires up. So far so good... 

Unfortunately I have a message advising me I have a "PASM fault" and that it is "Possible to drive on carefully".

I have tried multiple code readers now and not one displays an issue. 

Voltage before start up is 12.2v but down to 11.9v sometimes. During driving it is showing 14.1v. 

I've done a bout 90 miles since the power has been restored.

Has anyone been in this situation before? Car drives fine, PASM still seems to  be working just no Sport and annoying message constantly showing up! 

Porsche specific code readers ? If not that's where I'd go next...

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Also to check my own thinking here , how old/good is the battery ? Sounds a bit weak from your first post.

I have seen threads where the PASM issue can be caused by a weak battery. 

That said having that kind of diagnostic tool around is just good to have anyway..

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Just now, toby_b said:

I can't find a date code on the battery yet but I bet it's the original. 

If it's a Porsche battery the week/year should be stamped on the negative terminal and if it is the original I'd start with replacing that.

Also if your car is near power and not being used that often I'd invest in a battery maintainer.

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Also note when replacing the battery that for optimal charging the car needs to be "told" the battery has changed/is new, which the iCarsoft diag kit can do. Plenty of people will tell you they don't bother with this and maybe they don't have visible issues but the Porsche coding process is there for a technical reason.

A link and a couple of videos which may help...

https://rennlist.com/forums/991/1256464-icarsoft-and-updating-bms-new-battery.html

 

 

 

 

 

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26 minutes ago, toby_b said:

I can't find a date code on the battery yet but I bet it's the original. 

It's done well to make it to almost 11 years if it is, I think my 2013 car is on the original battery too, but I keep mine on a Ctek maintainer as much as possible but expecting to replace it any time soon.

Decent priced batteries can be got from https://www.tayna.co.uk/ with quick delivery if you need a new one

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18 minutes ago, toby_b said:

Thanks for the advice so far.

I'm on the web looking at various testers. Wish I could find one that could also activate my PSE when I finally get round to fitting it. 

Cayman 981 but same deal, you'll need access to a Porsche PIWIS to code it.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2015/MC-10198543-9999.pdf

 

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Checked the battery today and it states 2013. 

I think it's time for a replacement. Not sure if I will go for the official route after my quote of £420 coded and fitted. 

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7 hours ago, cozzykim said:

Can the iCarsoft V2 do stuff like activate the rain sensor, and toggle the stop/start function so that it's off by default?

No. That kind of coding will not be in scope. Again a Porsche PIWIS is needed for that.

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7 hours ago, cozzykim said:

Can the iCarsoft V2 do stuff like activate the rain sensor, and toggle the stop/start function so that it's off by default?

As others have said.  You need something that can “code” things.  The newer icarsoft units have some capability as do the foxwell.  But they seem to do some not all.  Specifics of what you need, especially for a 981 would suggest find someone with a PIWIS.  Indy or enthusiast - there’s a map pinned in the technical section.  
 

Likely you need pay and Indy, local enthusiast will likely code for a beer.  

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1 hour ago, toby_b said:

Checked the battery today and it states 2013. 

I think it's time for a replacement. Not sure if I will go for the official route after my quote of £420 coded and fitted. 

I had the dreaded flat battery on Sunday and after a lot of messing around to get to the battery found it had gone.

Ive changed mine over today and no faults or issues, 20 minute job and £180 for a Varta battery on next day delivery 👍

Mine also looked to be the original Porsche battery from 2012 😩

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I had a lot of PSM error codes on my 996. Pretty certain it was related to volts. Despite new battery, if I didn’t use for a couple of weeks, error message. Keep it on the ctek and no error codes. 

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2 hours ago, toby_b said:

Checked the battery today and it states 2013. 

I think it's time for a replacement. Not sure if I will go for the official route after my quote of £420 coded and fitted. 

Yup that battery is past due replacing. 

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  • 2 weeks later...

My code reader did not display any error codes before or after the battery was replaced. 

However I did manage to get it fixed. The car was checked with a more advanced tester which displayed a C11006 Coding and a C11007 Verification code. 

The car was taken to a local specialist who recoded the car and all is good in the world of Porsche ownership.

Moral to the story.... don't let your battery go flat!

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Glad it's sorted.

For ref...

 

C11006

Diagnostic information ­

Rear­end electronics Production mode active/Coding Faulty

Diagnostic conditions

The control unit must be active in order to test internal function sequences and diagnosable inputs/outputs.
In the event of a fault, check whether the fault is permanently >present<. To perform the check, erase the fault memory, meet the diagnostic conditions and read out the fault memory again.

Fault setting condition(s)

One or more production modes or production interventions are activated. I No/incorrect coding
Rear­endelectronics controlunitfaulty

Fault effects

Comfort functions: Function not available or available only to a limited extent

 

C11007

Diagnosis information

Rear­end electronics

Rear­end electronics Calibration

Diagnostic conditions

The control unit must be active in order to test internal function sequences and diagnosable inputs/outputs.
In the event of a fault, check whether the fault is permanently >present<. To perform the check, erase the fault memory, meet the diagnostic conditions and read out the fault memory again.

Fault setting condition(s)

Panorama roof system, Calibration incorrect or not carried out

Rear spoiler, Calibration incorrect or not carried out
Roof console Control module

Rear­end electronics incomplete taught

Control module Rear­end electronics not taught (Control module Rear­end electronics new )

E In the >PIWIS Tester II< A >Diagnostics< A Rear­end electronics => Drive links/tests => Teaching <, perform the respective standardization/calibration/teaching operations.

Fault effects

Function not available or available only to a limited extent

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