Glosrich Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 3 hours ago, zcacogp said: @Glosrich - not quite. It's less than 30 funds (I think it's 27, but let's go with 30). The benefits of diversification are touted by risk-averse financial advisers who never explain the down sides of it. Imagine one of those 30 companies disappears entirely and the stock is entirely worthless; your fund will lose a mere 3% of the value. Imagine you have diversified into 300 companies and one of them doubles in value; your fund will gain a mere 0.3% of the value. A reduction to zero value of one company is very unlikely but a substantial increase in value is quite likely. If you have confidence in the stock you buy then why put money elsewhere? As the strapline goes, "Buy good companies .... do nothing". It's nowhere near all US-based either - it currently lists 65.5% US-based. Currency fluctuations are far more of a concern than the whole of the US economy evaporating overnight. (An aside, but if the whole of the US economy was to disappear overnight then we'll all have much bigger problems than the loss of value in our investments!) I have put a LOT of my eggs in Terry's basket over the last 8 years. I've gone in with my eyes open, taken care to understand the risks and don't regret it; I'm up well over 350% in that time. It's not all roses; FEET has not been a success but I haven't written that one off yet. Smithson is yet to prove itself. Now, back to the superiority of the Cayman over the Boxster. Smutty comments aside, I notice that no-one has yet to disagree! Thanks for the info. Yes Cayman's are better than Boxsters. I've got a 2009 2.9 base in Aqua Blue. Much more rigid to drive, no leaks from the roof, and how much can you have the roof down in this country anyway! Wait for the explosion, sorry just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattman42 Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 Just now, Glosrich said: Thanks for the info. Yes Cayman's are better than Boxsters. I've got a 2009 2.9 base in Aqua Blue. Much more rigid to drive, no leaks from the roof, and how much can you have the roof down in this country anyway! Wait for the explosion, sorry just my opinion. so why are you on a Boxster forum then?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobScott Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 Caymans are for people that cant afford 911's All depends what you want from a car. I like Boxsters, as they are easier to work on, hence why I chose a Boxster rather than a Cayman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sa utah Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 Convertible people are just much nicer people. Happier. Better looking. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zcacogp Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, Mattman42 said: so why are you on a Boxster forum then?? Moi? Because they are the same cars - at least 99% the same! 8 minutes ago, RobScott said: Caymans are for people that cant afford 911's All depends what you want from a car. I like Boxsters, as they are easier to work on, hence why I chose a Boxster rather than a Cayman. Interesting, why do you say that Boxsters are easier to work on? I read threads on here about leaks and rooves not retracting properly and am slightly grateful for the fact that I have a Cayman and hence there is less to go wrong. An aside: I'd like to have a Boxster. Very much like to have one - a convertible is a delicious thing. I have a Cayman as there is more storage space inside and it lives on the street in London and if I had a Boxster then I'd worry about leaks and vandalism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattman42 Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 I looked at Cayman's when i bought the Box, like you say they are pretty much the same car, other than the silly solid roof on the Cayman - for me, having the convertible adds another dimension to the car, driving with the roof up is similar to the Cayman, roof down its another world - i'm not going to be hanging it out around a track at 100% so the extra rigidity was of no benefit. I also didn't need any additional luggage space as we have the family car, or the added security needed when parking it on a London street. At the end of the day, its still a Porsche and that's all that matters 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobbie Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 21 hours ago, jim o'hara said: so probably neglected up to that mileage then No, that's just when parts failed. The previous long term owner got it serviced to schedule and got any work advised done immediately. The reason they sold was that they couldn't justify continuing to spend that sort of money on it as a second car. Not sure why you're finding this data so difficult to accept at face value? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennym1984 Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Glosrich said: Yes Cayman's are better than Boxsters. Having now owned both, I have to agree! I do love the Boxster (and the top down element is fantastic), but the Cayman chassis (even at road speeds) just feels better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhys57 Posted January 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) I think my next one will be a cayman I hope I don't spend 8k on it in costs but hey ho I prob will. My car is also like my hobby if that sounds sad, I spent hrs in the better weather on the bodywork I do enjoy machine polishing and applying coatings 😁 Edited January 23, 2020 by rhys57 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat1 Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 On a related note maybe we could try to get a price list going for common and major repairs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim o'hara Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 7 hours ago, Nobbie said: No, that's just when parts failed. The previous long term owner got it serviced to schedule and got any work advised done immediately. The reason they sold was that they couldn't justify continuing to spend that sort of money on it as a second car. Not sure why you're finding this data so difficult to accept at face value? well as its been mentioned earlier, the reason i am questioning (not just you) is that from the thread, there are lost of people spending money that is sometimes just for the sake of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhys57 Posted January 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, jim o'hara said: well as its been mentioned earlier, the reason i am questioning (not just you) is that from the thread, there are lost of people spending money that is sometimes just for the sake of it To keep these cars looking and running as hey should you need to spend the money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennym1984 Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, rhys57 said: To keep these cars looking and running as hey should you need to spend the money I think they can definitely be kept in top condition on more modest budgets but as somebody else said, if you can afford it and it makes you happy, why not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATM Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 My best advice to anyone thinking about one of these cars is simple. If you're a bit OCD then dont buy one because it will cost you a lot. My 996 is 22 years old this year. You cant own a 22 year old Porsche if you like to have everything perfect. Its just doesn't make sense financially. On the other hand if you're willing to accept some little teething problems or quirks and can do some easier bits yourself then its fine. But you need to be a car person first and foremost. One of my none car friends who isn't even OCD saw me climbing into my 996 via the passenger door because the driver side window regulator was on the blink. He thought I was crazy. To him that makes no sense. He buys newish cars and has never even changed a brake pad, garage for everything. He would just never buy a Porsche full stop. To him cars are just transport and it's all about cost benefit. He spends more on uber than I do on Porsche - well maybe not quite but its a good story. I've finally got through to him though. His next brake pad change will be done by us together so no garage. He has given me 3 months notice. He seems to think they'll need doing around April time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinewood Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, Glosrich said: Thanks for the info. Yes Cayman's are better than Boxsters. I've got a 2009 2.9 base in Aqua Blue. Much more rigid to drive, no leaks from the roof, and how much can you have the roof down in this country anyway! Wait for the explosion, sorry just my opinion. Subjective opinion. I would argue the Boxster is the better car. 95% a Cayman with roof up, and way way better with the roof down. I don't need a track focused super stiff chassis and have 2 very usable cars in 1 tidy package. The roof comes down most of the year, when the weather is dry, even at temps in single figures. The car is instantly transformed from something good, to something great. Having ridden shotgun in a 987 Cayman, I found the tin roof made the engine sound very boomy within the cabin. The soft top reduces that effectively when up. Admittedly mine is safely parked on a secure well lit driveway, but plenty of soft tops are parked on city roads, so I don't see a security risk unless one lives in a high crime area. Surely any Porsche would draw unwelcome attention in those circumstances? So what makes your base 2.9 better, than my 3.4 S? Edited January 24, 2020 by Pinewood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennym1984 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Pinewood said: So what makes your base 2.9 better, than my 3.4 S? ... A better chassis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinewood Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 26 minutes ago, Lennym1984 said: ... A better chassis 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat1 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 I do seem to remember talk about Caymans having a much noisier/boomier interior. Apart from not being able to put the top down that would be a show stopper for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennym1984 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 27 minutes ago, mat1 said: I do seem to remember talk about Caymans having a much noisier/boomier interior. Apart from not being able to put the top down that would be a show stopper for me. Yeah that is true. It's not too intrusive but on some roads it can sound like the helmholtz resonance you get when you have only one window slightly ajar. Teasing aside, they are both great cars and the difference between them in terms of handling is minimal. Given the fact that used Boxsters are cheaper than Caymans to start with, unless you really want a tintop or are planning to do a lot of track driving, I think the Boxster is probably the better overall proposition. I had already owned a Boxster (which I thought was fantastic) and do a few track days a year, so for that reason, I wanted to go with a Cayman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobbie Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 17 hours ago, jim o'hara said: well as its been mentioned earlier, the reason i am questioning (not just you) is that from the thread, there are lost of people spending money that is sometimes just for the sake of it Certainly not disagreeing with you there, but each to their own. You can run these cars for very little if you want to and are reasonably lucky. My car mostly had just tyres and servicing between 70-100k which was three years motoring. I suspect the reason for the large maintenance requirements of mine between 100-130k were that it was a daily driver and so out in all weathers. A weekend car on 60-70k should be relatively trouble free unless it's been neglected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattman42 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 On 1/23/2020 at 2:44 PM, rhys57 said: I think my next one will be a cayman I hope I don't spend 8k on it in costs but hey ho I prob will. My car is also like my hobby if that sounds sad, I spent hrs in the better weather on the bodywork I do enjoy machine polishing and applying coatings 😁 you can get even greater enjoyment by doing mine as well then - will provide tea and bacon sarnies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhys57 Posted January 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, Mattman42 said: you can get even greater enjoyment by doing mine as well then - will provide tea and bacon sarnies! Good plan 🍵☕ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobQ Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 £3,250 in the past 18m (10,000 miles) since I bought it. £1,600 of that was IMS/RMS/Clutch at Revolution and £500 for Carnewal. Pretty happy with that TBH. I’ve done bits and bobs myself which has no doubt saved some money 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glosrich Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 On 1/23/2020 at 1:05 PM, Mattman42 said: so why are you on a Boxster forum then?? Don't take offence guys, it was meant as a light hearted comment, and only my opinion. We're all entitled to our own opinions aren't we? Ironically if I ever buy a newer Porsche, it will probably be a Boxster, as I'd like to own one for a while. I'm on here as its a good forum, and like yourselves I enjoy fixing and maintaining my own car to save a bit of money now and again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zcacogp Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Glosrich said: Don't take offence guys, it was meant as a light hearted comment, and only my opinion. We're all entitled to our own opinions aren't we? Ironically if I ever buy a newer Porsche, it will probably be a Boxster, as I'd like to own one for a while. I'm on here as its a good forum, and like yourselves I enjoy fixing and maintaining my own car to save a bit of money now and again. Hear hear! Fellow Cayman owner here who is up for useful advice on owning the car and some good banter on why one may be better than the other! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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