stupidget Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 How do, I'm stuck in a bit of a quandary. I've got some spare cash and am wondering if I should spend it upgrading my current 2004 S or should I flog it and put the money and the wedge of spare cash towards 987? With regards to upgrades on my S i'm thinking of the following: 1 - New seats. I think the springs in the original seats have had ir. 2 - adding the OBC stick. I already have Cruise control 3 - New exhaust What would you lot do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul P Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 Guess it depends on what else has been done to the 986 ( engine, clutch, suspension, roof.....) or if there are any other big items looming ( need tyres? ) - then the same argument for a 987 - whats it had spent, whats it going to need soon etc. Neither car is a "spring chicken" anymore so for me it would come down to "do I like/want (spec, colour, toys, condition etc. a 987 enough to make the jump? " then do the maths on what you want and how to make the numbers work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattman42 Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 probably stick with the 986 and upgrade it - if you are going to upgrade the car, probably a 981 or 718 to really get a noticeable difference. Depends on your budget, but you know your car, what you've done to it etc - there is always the risk you buy the next one and end up having to spend more on it to get it to the same level. Although i can't really comment as i change my cars too often - i get around the quandary by rarely buying the same model!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish19700 Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 Question I'd ask myself 'what am I trying to achieve?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubaregs Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 Spend it on beer and hookers, or just waste it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southy Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Scubaregs said: Spend it on beer and hookers, or just waste it. he would definitely need new springs then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubaregs Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Southy said: he would definitely need new springs then Only if going with the cheaper end of the market. Higher end come with a hotel room. Apparently. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Fish19700 said: Question I'd ask myself 'what am I trying to achieve?' This. Answer is very different between daily driver and weekend hooner for example. And DIY maintenance or relying on paying someone? Neither will be more mechanically reliable, by now, in terms of "it's newer"; all are at least 10 years old. Mahoosive difference between 987.1 and 987.2 with the latter having a brand new engine with no IMS, bore score etc etc, and also the option of PDK which has converted many a manual fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninesomething Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 Have you driven a 987? Try one and see if it melts your butter. Admittedly test drives are hard to come by these days unless you turn up in a full hazmat suit with the money in cash.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afrikaner Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 I would agree with Mattman42 if you are going to change go for 981/718 if budget allows. I would add what mods you want to make, add to current value of 986 plus what you have spent already. Dare I mention IMS ..............has it been done?? Really cost me £.............still makes cringe when I think about it! As someone said already you know your car and what you have had done or likely to need in the near future.Better the devil you know.................. Then have a look around in market place. Are the mods you want to make to 986 available on newer cars in your price bracket available? I changed last year from 2004 S ours from new to 2016 981 S PDK its like day and night! Her indoors loves it!! I was lucky as 60th birthday and blew some of the pension pot! I have posted the longer version a few weeks back. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edc Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Fish19700 said: Question I'd ask myself 'what am I trying to achieve?' Same here. I went from one 986 to another because 986 just fits the bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattman42 Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Scubaregs said: Only if going with the cheaper end of the market. Higher end come with a hotel room. Apparently. 😉 probably more likely to come with a caravan these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazymind Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 weekend car, upgrade to lotus elise or VX220. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish19700 Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 55 minutes ago, Crazymind said: weekend car, upgrade to lotus elise or VX220. Surely you misuse the word 'upgrade'?! 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubaregs Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 21 minutes ago, Fish19700 said: Surely you misuse the word 'upgrade'?! 😆 Clue is in the username. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish19700 Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, Scubaregs said: Clue is in the username. 😉 Clarity achieved. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupidget Posted February 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 4 hours ago, Fish19700 said: Question I'd ask myself 'what am I trying to achieve?' I suppose I'm thinking that there are niggly things that need doing to my 986 that I know are all going to start adding up cost wise. The door seal has clearly gone as the bottom of the driver side door is soaked, the exhaust needs changing as it's blowing slightly, like I said the drivers seat springs feel like they've had better days and some of the paintwork needs attention and probably needs lacquering. That's before I even start to look at things like replacing the IMS, just in case it goes. It drives fantastically, starts first time every time (even when it's -6oC outside), there are no clunks or clangs whilst driving, tyres are fine, A/C was fixed last summer and 2 condensers were fitted, no mayo in the oil cap, new pipes fitted last year to stop coolant leak, coolant hasn't moved in 9 months, brakes are fine and over all it's a brilliant car. I'm pretty sure there is a large element of 'I've had this toy for 2 years and now I want a shinier slightly newer one'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edc Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 If you just want something newer with a bit more certainly of reliability then get a newer lower mileage car. The caveat as usual is that even the earliest 987 are 15 years old and the youngest 8+. There will be things to do on a 987 too. But you could buy a pretty well sorted 986 or 987 regardless of age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazymind Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Scubaregs said: Clue is in the username. 😉 1 hour ago, Fish19700 said: Clarity achieved. 😉 you buggers 🤪 BOXSTER is fun to drive if you didn't drive something really fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 All that will cost 2k to fix (minus paint). Upgrade will cost 5k plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattman42 Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 31 minutes ago, Menoporsche said: All that will cost 2k to fix (minus paint). Upgrade will cost 5k plus. stop putting reality in the way of man-maths - let the man buy a new car!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubaregs Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mattman42 said: stop putting reality in the way of man-maths - let the man buy a new car!! There really only is one important question that needs answered here, can you get it past SWMBO? If so, have at it with the man maths good sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clivescoobydo Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 6 hours ago, stupidget said: How do, I'm stuck in a bit of a quandary. I've got some spare cash and am wondering if I should spend it upgrading my current 2004 S or should I flog it and put the money and the wedge of spare cash towards 987? With regards to upgrades on my S i'm thinking of the following: 1 - New seats. I think the springs in the original seats have had ir. 2 - adding the OBC stick. I already have Cruise control 3 - New exhaust What would you lot do? Stick - 986's are on the way up, 987.1 still dropping and you could have similar problems to fix. Unless you can jump to 987.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 54 minutes ago, Mattman42 said: stop putting reality in the way of man-maths - let the man buy a new sofa!! Thanks for your advice Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattman42 Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 27 minutes ago, Menoporsche said: Thanks for your advice Matt Where’s the “up yours” emoji when you need it 😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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