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Anyone fitted the Recaro Pole Position seat to their 986 ? How have you found them ?

Also, how did you attach them ?

My research indicates you can use a Planted floor mount, with Recaro sliders and a Recaro side mounts.

Ideally I want to keep the slide function and ability to use existing 3 point seat belts (With potential for harnesses)

 

All experiences and ideas gratefully received !

 

Cheers

Ben 

 

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18 minutes ago, BenM said:

Anyone fitted the Recaro Pole Position seat to their 986 ? How have you found them ?

Also, how did you attach them ?

My research indicates you can use a Planted floor mount, with Recaro sliders and a Recaro side mounts.

Ideally I want to keep the slide function and ability to use existing 3 point seat belts (With potential for harnesses)

 

All experiences and ideas gratefully received !

 

Cheers

Ben 

 

No personal experience , stumbled across this post which if you haven't already seen it may provide insight.

http://986forum.com/forums/performance-technical-chat/28964-recaro-pole-position-type-986-boxster-s.html

 

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1 hour ago, iborguk said:

No personal experience , stumbled across this post which if you haven't already seen it may provide insight.

http://986forum.com/forums/performance-technical-chat/28964-recaro-pole-position-type-986-boxster-s.html

 

Thanks. I've seen that previously, and it actually just adds to my confusion ! 

But it did remind me that all the mounting hardware can raise the seat height, which is the last thing I want.

 

Maybe I need to reconsider the sliders, as i think their omission should provide a lower height (and be cheaper!) 

Nobody else drives my car, so if I can get the seats in the perfect position, they should be ok fixed.

Hmmm....

 

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4 minutes ago, BenM said:

Thanks. I've seen that previously, and it actually just adds to my confusion ! 

But it did remind me that all the mounting hardware can raise the seat height, which is the last thing I want.

 

Maybe I need to reconsider the sliders, as i think their omission should provide a lower height (and be cheaper!) 

Nobody else drives my car, so if I can get the seats in the perfect position, they should be ok fixed.

Hmmm....

 

A common mod is to fit 987 seat which are lower than 986 seats.  Not Pole Positions but they are still made by Recaro, as are the 986 ones... 😉

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I would have a look at the OE GT3 seats to see what the differences are. These can slide and sit low in a 986. 

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16 minutes ago, edc said:

I would have a look at the OE GT3 seats to see what the differences are. These can slide and sit low in a 986. 

They cost more than the value of the car, from what I've seen

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2 hours ago, BenM said:

They cost more than the value of the car, from what I've seen

Yes but I meant for comparative fitting purpose not as an alternative to buy.

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12 hours ago, map said:

@BenM - take a look at this thread, @Saxosim fitted Recaro CS seats and his experience might be helpful for you.

 

Thanks map 🙂

As per everything else I've read on this subject, it's not plain sailing.

Although the sliders sound like the main complication, so their omission should help.

As should the fact the Pole Positions are fixed-back buckets, so no reclining complications either. 

 

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Wonder if these would work as the most simple solution ? :

https://www.design911shop.com/p/brey-krause-race-seat-side-mounts-for-floor-mounting-gt3-seats---drivers-side-porsches-996---boxster/

 

Seems to just fit to the existing Porsche slider, then to the Recaro.

It can't be this simple, can it ?!?

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51 minutes ago, BenM said:

Wonder if these would work as the most simple solution ? :

https://www.design911shop.com/p/brey-krause-race-seat-side-mounts-for-floor-mounting-gt3-seats---drivers-side-porsches-996---boxster/

 

Seems to just fit to the existing Porsche slider, then to the Recaro.

It can't be this simple, can it ?!?

It just might be. Call D911 and ask them - do you need extra parts for seat belt mounts or harnesses as examples? Then confirm that parts list and lead times via email before ordering/paying  

Assuming that all works out this “How To” might be helpful:

 

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46 minutes ago, map said:

It just might be. Call D911 and ask them - do you need extra parts for seat belt mounts or harnesses as examples? Then confirm that parts list and lead times via email before ordering/paying  

Assuming that all works out this “How To” might be helpful:

 

Thanks map, you're a star.

 

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Those Brey Krause side mounts aren't currently available in UK (drivers side, at least), and would have probably raised the seat height anyway.

So, just ordered the Planted Tech base frame and Recaro Side Mounts

 

Should be fun fitting all this, next week ! 😃

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On 6/22/2023 at 11:58 AM, BenM said:

Anyone fitted the Recaro Pole Position seat to their 986 ? How have you found them ?

Also, how did you attach them ?

My research indicates you can use a Planted floor mount, with Recaro sliders and a Recaro side mounts.

Ideally I want to keep the slide function and ability to use existing 3 point seat belts (With potential for harnesses)

 

All experiences and ideas gratefully received !

 

Cheers

Ben 

 

Ben,

I did this during the winter. Very straightforward, I also had heated pads fitted and wired those in.

I went directly to the UK importer, tried the seat at their HQ, brought one, and 996/986 specific fitting kit, fitted it myself. Reasonably straight forward, instructions were a bit difficult to follow, getting certain bits the correct way up (fore/aft bits) but only took a few hours. Then when I decided I liked it, brought the passenger one and did that, much quicker to do obviously. Then spent a few days staring at the wiring looms and working out what did what and then had a go at that. Took me about a day to re wire both and build a small piece to hide the heating controls in the centre armrest/cubby.  Brought both new, cost me more than I paid for the car 7 years ago......but worth it, I love them. I also paid them to remove the white 'RECARO' from the headrest and just have it in recessed black font. I had hard back sports seats in before. Took those out and put in my 996, which had comforts, those now much more comfortable as the can go back a few more inches than they can in a 986.

Next week driving to southern Spain in it, brought them almost specifically for that reason, the others were to uncomfortable to contemplate such a trip.

AaS

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Haven't been on the forum for a little while, but came on this morning for this specific reason. I'm also considering a set of pole positions for my 986 Boxster S. Couldn't believe my luck seeing this post. 

I've found myself doing a few track days recently and the Pole Positions would definitely be an upgrade over my current OEM Wing Backs. One of my questions is that do you feel there is a a little more room in the cockpit with the pole positions. With my Sports seats I could do with one more click back, but there isn't enough room. I think this would seal the deal for me. 

Hope that you are enjoying them, they look mega. 

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5 hours ago, nick_johnson said:

Haven't been on the forum for a little while, but came on this morning for this specific reason. I'm also considering a set of pole positions for my 986 Boxster S. Couldn't believe my luck seeing this post. 

I've found myself doing a few track days recently and the Pole Positions would definitely be an upgrade over my current OEM Wing Backs. One of my questions is that do you feel there is a a little more room in the cockpit with the pole positions. With my Sports seats I could do with one more click back, but there isn't enough room. I think this would seal the deal for me. 

Hope that you are enjoying them, they look mega. 

Yes, they do go back further and give you more leg room. I had OEM Wing Backs in mine, after an hour I'd have had enough and would have to stretch my legs out when I got out (I'm 6'0", 32" inside leg) with these, and indeed the GT3 centre console delete, it's fine. I fitted mine over the winter in anticipation of a trip down to Seville, I'm half way there as I write. Last 3 days I've done 1,300 miles and driven each day for an average of about 7hrs a day, only stopping for fuel and comfort break, max 2 x 10mins stops (I'm on my own!). Leg issue completely gone. As I said in another post, put the Sports Seats in my 996, it has a slightly bigger cabin and allows them to be moved further back, they're fine in there.

A few words of caution. New, they're not cheap, once you've brought all the additional fitting kit, etc. As standard they come with Recaro written in big white letters across the top, but the company that import will delete this and insert a much more restrained version in black, but again, think it was about £100 a seat to do that. I also think the buckets are too much for a daily: lovely to sit in, but getting in and out would start to annoy you.

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Superb, I did a similar solo trip in mine down to the SOF a couple of years ago to see my brother who lives in Antibes. On the route down I included the Nurburgring, Spa and the Route Napoleon. I couldn't have enjoyed the trip any more, the car was amazing and didn't miss a beat. Enjoy, I'm very envious. 

The full leather Pole Positions are silly money, over £2k each + fitting kits. I can't justify that kind of wedge, the Black Leather / Suede would look cheaper but I cannot deal with the white RECARO logo as you've already mentioned. Please can you confirm where you ordered yours from, did you specify you wanted the logo deleted in place of the small indented logo?

The fact that I can also sell my Wing Back OEM Seats which will bridge the gap makes this a very viable option.  

 

 

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Hi Nick,

Mine are; RECARO Pole Position ABE - Black Simulated Leather/Dinamica Black, but were still £1650, each all in. They wouldn't remove Recaro completely, the best they could offer was the small indented logo, which I was happy with. Contemplated the leather, but I don't do a huge milage in it (I've done 18K miles in 7 years, and that includes 1500 miles since Sunday!) and am more than happy with what I got. My interior isn't leather anyway so it wasn't an issue and I've had my steering wheel re-trimmed by Royal Steering wheels in Alcantara, so it sort of all matches up. Don't forget, very, very few will look and think it's not leather, they really won't know. I also decided that if it scuffs up and/or wears quickly I can always replace the covers. It's the seat etc that's the big cost.

Capital Seating. I went to visit, happened to be in that part of the country one day, got a contact and then discussed what I wanted. Very quick order to delivery, I was extremely pleased with the service.

As I said brought one, tried it for a few weeks and then went all in. My logic being that if I didn't like it in those weeks, I reckoned I could sell again on EBay for not a huge amount less than I paid. Contemplated just buying one, but it wouldn't look right.

This trip has confirmed the choice - really delighted with them.

Oh, and I also spent a little while buying new seat belt buckles from eBay, until I got one the right length to fit through and sit up enough so that you don't notice it. The stock one sits exactly in the 'hole' and is a right pain to unclip and slightly digs into your hip (see pic, if you notice in one of the earlier pics the buckle sits exactly in the hole, it was too annoying).

 

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Finally got round to fitting mine yesterday.

Went with the FIA seats, Recaro side mounts and sliders, plus the Planted base mount.

Took a good couple of hours to sort, but well pleased with the result. Super supportive and comfy.

I'm glad I went with the sliders, as it would have been difficult to 'fix' in the perfect position otherwise. The seat was in and out numerous times to test fit and make sure everything was aligned. Getting the base mount rear bolts in was an absolute bast*rd, as the sliders partially covered the holes. Got there in the end though.

 

@allatsea The only issue I have is the same seatbelt buckle problem you experienced - what length one did you go for that worked ? Also how did you deal with the seatbelt light on the dash, if you replace the original buckle. I could just leave it plugged in under the seat, but that's not a great solution ! lol

I'd post a pic but it says 1MB max, and the phone pics are 4MB...

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1 minute ago, BenM said:

 

I'd post a pic but it says 1MB max, and the phone pics are 4MB...

You need to use Imgur or Flickr to host the picture then just paste the Forum links:

 

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Will be sorting the passenger side later this month.

I expect that will take less than an hour, now I know how it all goes together !

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