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3 hours ago, pacificjuha said:

There are also welded on heat shields on the downpipes before the cats. Those can also rust loose and usually makse noice only when hot and expanded due to heat. This is very hard to search out since the exhaust has to be very hot...

There is also a chance that some rocks find their way to go between these heatshields and downpipes then rattle there. This is easier to find out with light taps on rubber mallet to these heat shields.

Where you based as I'm coming down! 👀 you seem to have the knowledge to solve my issue! 🤣

3 hours ago, Winster said:

Replaced both rear droplinks and anti roll bar bushes but still have a knock.  2 x rear tuning forks ordered from Spyder Performance.  Hopefully that sorts it or I will lose half of everything in the divorce.

After doing the full suspension refresh Inc the drop links, track rod etc etc... I've cleared all those noises which now allows me to hear the just slightly lower noises that were being masked by the 20 year old suspension. 

https://www.design911.co.uk/p/genuine-porsche-986-boxster-rear-reinforcemence-bar-with-heat-sheild-98650502100/

This thing....never knew it was a thing. Will have to check it out next time I'm under there!

1 hour ago, Everywhen said:

There is a large heat shield above the exhaust close to the underside of the body, this relies on a single fasting in the middle for a large amount of its support.

It's a bit hard to access as the Exhaust is in the way but it is possible to get a long screwdriver to give a poke to see if it's still attached.

Mine was rattling, I managed to get to the fastening and use a large repair washer to secure it. I don't have a standard exhaust though, so access was easier.

I was never aware of this specific heat shield! Any pics would be amazing as it's doing my head in when it gets really hot and expands amd starts rattling. I presume ita this bugger as the others I've removed one and secured the other over the cats. 

Each to their own mate, i think the point of the suggestion was the unit itself is easier to sand when it's off the car rather than the time it takes to take it out. 

I've had mine out about 7 times in 2 years and theres no wiring to concern yourself over. The whole unit just slides out without any exposed wires to worry about exposing. 👍

As I said, we all have our own prefered methods. I know I can be clumsy so would be safer for my fat hands to be away from the paintwork when sanding. 🤣

16 minutes ago, Fat Rat said:

Where will all end! 

It never EVER does...  
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On 5/20/2023 at 12:43 PM, ½cwt said:

I put the standard 17" rims back and an went down to local Kwik Fit who have Hunter gear and a good geo technician.  After almost an hour on the ramp and tweaks to rear toe and camber combined to get the rear toe geo correct and then the front sorted too.  £85 later and a fully green sheet and it sits well based on a quick blast I took it on.  Now to refit the 18" rims this afternoon.  I think I've worked out that I need to use the standard 17" wheels as 'set up rims' in future.

Hopefully nothing more major to do on it for a while... 🤞

 

Note: I noticed too late that they put the Sport (M030) setting in the tracking machine, but the numbers are all within the standard (X029 which is what my car is) setting ranges.

I totally missed this before mate! Congrats on that outcome! 

Is it on non m030 springs? If so that would explain why my chap was having issues getting into green for the rear camber due to it being lowered. 

15 minutes ago, Fat Rat said:

@fizz Do the wheels clear the arch with 15 & 20mm scacers?

I was told on the facelift 5mm was the max unless I changed the wheels. Mine has Carrerra Cups on like the Anniversary.

No issues with mine at all mate and i put them on before the suspension refresh when the shocks were shoddy and crumbling springs. 

My 2003 S has it behind the headlamp on the drivers side. 

On 12/31/2022 at 10:03 PM, Philc said:

https://www.onbuy.com/gb/porsche-wheel-centre-caps-76mm-grey~c10776~p42580047/

Try that link for a grey set. Silver and black also available.

Just ordered a set so thank you. 😉

Night breaker here too and deffo noticeably brighter compared to the standard h7 bulbs mine came with. 

Shorter lifespan but considering how easy they are to change and in comparison to the lack of mpg we get its worth it money wise. 

15 minutes ago, ½cwt said:

That looks a LOT better!

Hope mine comes out that well tomorrow.

Long time coming for me mate.. been a long ole slog thats for sure. Fingers crossed for your alignment.  

21 minutes ago, ATM said:

I see a reasonable amount of rear toe in.  So nice and safe.  You can get a bit of a more racey feeling with a looser rear end from less toe in. 

I cant believe im saying this in public but i have always liked a loose back end 'fnar' when ive had MR2 turbo's in the past but then i was younger and more on the ball with reaction times and catching the back end usually ending up in a fish tail due to the heavy rear end and more snap over steer in them. 

24 minutes ago, ATM said:

If you are not planning to throw it around much then maybe that's too much rear negative camber.  If you dial out some of that negative camber then the tyre will lean more onto its sidewalls as you corner which can mean a more predictable transition to sliding as the tyre loses grip.  But now we are getting into tweaking here and there and preferences.  Some people seem to think more negative camber is good.  But you should try to understand what this means and how the car will behave as a result.

So the rear camber he said due to it being lowered he wasnt able to dial that out any more without going uneven on one side and its possibly due to me having put on M030 lowering springs. I do like to drive the car hard in the bends and do plan to take it on track once im happy its prepped enough so i think it will suit my needs. I tend to put on maybe 2 to 3k miles on per year so tyre wear aint too much of a concern at this stage. 

27 minutes ago, ATM said:

Toe in means the wheels are pointing towards the centre of the car rather than straight forward.  This will eat the tread quicker as the tyres are never going straight unless you are cornering and the weight is only on one side.  Then once the weight is on one side the rear wheel which is weighted is also turning into the bend.  Think of this like the right rear wheel turning left all the time and the left wheel turning right all the time.  This makes the rear end feel tight and predictable and I think the reason rear tyres wear out much much quicker than fronts.

You have manged to explain that quicker than Chong at the garage did so thank you for that. Makes sense about loading up the wheels whilst turning will benefit this setup rather than it being used for just everyday sunday driving style. 

I might pop up into the Dales this Sat to try it out and see how it feels now.  

 

10 minutes ago, ATM said:

And how does it drive now?

Will take it out for a proper blat on the weekend but much more planted and safer and predictable round bends now. Not thst I was doing anything too crazy before as I knew it was shoddy and risky. 

He's evened out both sides now which it wasn't before. 

Just got back...

Said he couldn't get the rear camber our any further but it should fine for fast road and odd track day. 

He asked if the car has been lowered, I have put H&R m030 -10mm on which could have an impact.

Front caster he couldn't adjust any further sadly but said its as balanced as he can get. Spent a good amount of time on the car and explained everything properly.  

Just got back...

Said he couldn't get the rear camber our any further but it should fine for fast road and odd track day. 

He asked if the car has been lowered, I have put H&R m030 -10mm on which could have an impact.

Front caster he couldn't adjust any further sadly but said its as balanced as he can get. Spent a good amount of time on the car and explained everything properly.  

25 minutes ago, bally4563 said:

Hope you are not going back there again !! 

Hell no! Im off to Atec Align in Huddersfield who have been recommended by a few local car enthusiasts and going by their google reviews as well this backs it up. 

Spoke to a chap called Chong who gives excellent service and talks you through everything as he does it. He's done dozens of Porsche's before and when i told him about my previous experience he was confused as to why they couldn't do it correctly.

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After a long time coming I finally washed the car after having the full suspension refresh done.its got 20mm spacers on the rear and 15mm fronts. 

Had a very shyate alignment done which at least straightend the wheels out but the rest needs redping.booked in tomorrow lunchtime for it. 

I've shared this elsewhere but for those who didn't get to laugh at it.

On 5/12/2023 at 9:39 AM, Everywhen said:

As it happens when its warn could it be exhaust/Cat heat shield?

id put my monies on loose heat shield as the first thing to check. Mine does the same when its warm and its annoying as hell as i thought id got it strapped down but evidently not. It rattles louder when i go round a bend which would i think sounds like its vibrating against something else. 

I wont lie, this car is beginning to grate on me they more shyte im having to deal with over the last few months. 😐 

Im sure when i finally get it to a point i can actually drive it hard and with purpose over the Dales it will all finally make sense and make it all worth while.  

Im going to book it in with Atec-Align in Hudderfield who have been recommended to me by quite a few local car bods now. Plan was to take it straight there originally but car wasnt drivable and needed to get to the closest place who had time to do it. 

Just need to wait for availability from Chong (owner) now and get it down. 

17 hours ago, K.I.T.T. said:

@fizz, take it somewhere that has a clue. Be careful driving that until it's properly set up - those current toe settings (esp the rear) are making my teeth itch...

Noted. 👌
 

12 hours ago, Andy Mac said:

Hi @fizz I went through something similar (ie a poor experience) after a full suspension (all new arms / eccentric bolts / washers / coil overs / inner outer steering tie rods / ARB bushes / drop links .. blah blah blah) on my 996.

Glad im not the only one.  Also lovely 996 btw... glad you got it all sorted in the end. You had the additional headache of the coilover adjustments too thrown into the mix. 

5 minutes ago, 986T8 said:

Dude, that’s what those eccentrics inboard on the rear control arms are for. Tell him to look at both sides.

That's exactly what I thought but didn't know if I was missing anything. Sod em. It's going to a better garage. 

So.. popped back to the garage today and they are having issues trying to work out how to adjust the top of the rear wheel to move it outwards. He said as the strut sits directly into the hub in a fixed position he doesn't know where to adjust it from. 

I said I'd try and find out some info and get back to him when I do. Other option is to go to a specialist and just bite the bullet. 

1 hour ago, edc said:

Is that picture a before or after one? The only thing that seems vaguely close side to side is the caster which you can't adjust anyway ... 

I'd be going somewhere else if they let the car leave like that. 

The before figures are the smaller numbers above each section. I've paid £80 quid now but ita going back on Monday. I think they were rushed and tried to just pull a fast one. 

Won't allow that on Monday. 

Cars booked back in for a redo on Monday. 

On 5/4/2023 at 5:39 PM, edc said:

Sounds like a small outfit who maybe only do "normal" cars or a specialist who normally work with a limited range of cars? 

Seems you could be right about that but they were the closest that had a slot available within 2 days. 

Had the alignment done. Does this look adequate? I originally asked for a fast road setup but they said they don't go outside of the default from factory. 

Just collected my car today and he said they have done a fast road setup but dont know if they are bullshyateting me because they couldnt do a better job than the pic below.

When i ring em up to ask for a redo, what should I tell em the problem is? 

Car seems to drive OK but feels a bit odd due to the whole new suspension refresh.