Rooose Posted April 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 43 minutes ago, 718as said: not a bad price. https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202002237626672?radius=1500&advertising-location=at_cars&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=Used&sort=price-asc&aggregatedTrim=981 GTS&model=BOXSTER&postcode=ub11pz&make=PORSCHE&page=1 These were c£50k a year ago. That's the car I am talking with Ashgood about - although there is some strange early service history that I hope will be clarified before committing to anything....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonttt Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 Ashgood have a good rep.... The actual car...points worth’s noting.... - its has the turbo alloys, popular upgrade but personally I prefer the Carrera S wheels - it has painted roll hoops downsides for me - it has the free leather option seats etc.....so loses a lot of what a GTS is about for me - it does not have the GTS / carbon pack which was an expensive options but most cars tend to have it (at a guess) and it makes a difference when you come to sell it ire contrast stitching, coloured rev counter, coloured GTS stitching, full carbon interior trim (instead of the silver), red edged seatbelts and floor mats (red or silver contrasts where the choices)......as these came with extended leather dash etc... as standard the contrast stitching in particular is very nice when in the cabin .....ps the other “nice” option to look for / be aware of is the GTS exterior pack, its rarer than the internal pack and gives gloss rather than Matt exterior GTS parts.....it really makes the GTS trim “pop” compared to the Matt 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooose Posted April 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 👍 appreciate the input Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cocky Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 3 hours ago, GTSMarky said: I haven't looked.. Crazy good or crazy bad? Prices holding up? One priced at £39k and others low 40's lot's lower compared to such as a year or so ago when you would be expecting to see them around £50k+ It's all relevant, 80% of the 981 market is priced under £30K now. It just feels like a crazy drop in price if like me you don't see 12-18 months as a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIkeyv60 Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 The car has to have the GTS pack as thats the only option you couldnt add to the s, i think the GTS has piped in induction sound too so you get that roar on acceleration. My friend who works for Audi havent changed their prices as he said there is no need at the moment as people arnt really looking and your not supposed to drive anyway, i sorned my car , he said all will change when you can meet face to face and are freely available to drive around again , i dont think that will happen until June Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1HJK Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 Regardless of getting an S or GTS I’m confident you will be very happy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzfox Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 GTS , is it worth it? Well here's my answer - HELL YES!! (but I guess I'm a bit biased!) I had a 987 Black Edition when the 981 was launched and was more than happy to keep it as I just couldn't justify the cost to upgrade to 981. Then they launched the GTS and the styling changes then caught my eye and I wanted one! Absolute deal breaker for me was the GTS interior pack as that, IMHO, is what sets the GTS above the rest. Without it you may as well be sitting in nicely specced 2.7 or an 'S' but the GTS interior with the red dial and stitching, alcantara and carbon trim and of course 'GTS' stamped on the tacho right in front of you really makes you feel you're sat in something special with a true racing pedigree. You'd be surprised how many don't have that specced, I couldn't find one which is why I bought new and just managed to get one of the last build slots (I think @Gorsh must have got the very last UK slot about a week after me?) 4 1/2 years and 51,000 miles later I don't regret it one bit, it's a beautiful looking car, does everything from shopping to track days to Euro-road trips, sounds incredible (GTS has the sound symposer that the others don't) and is ALWAYS exciting to drive. For me the GTS is just that little bit more special and a cut above the 'S' that makes me feel so lucky, privileged and happy every time I get in and fire up that flat six. GTS interior and preferably the GTS exterior pack is a must though. It's a very personal thing though and what makes it harder is that, let's be honest, all Boxsters are bloody brilliant aren't they!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhemus Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 I could not have put it better myself, so I won't try! All I will add is that I faced the same dilemma a couple of years ago. Ultimately I knew deep down that I would have retained a GTS itch if I hadn't taken the plunge. I'm so glad I did: I love it and every journey puts a massive smile on my face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooose Posted April 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 The one I was considering is now gone...... probably a good thing, allows me to gather thoughts and find exactly what i want, which seems to have grown after all the advice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIkeyv60 Posted April 24, 2020 Report Share Posted April 24, 2020 7 hours ago, Rooose said: The one I was considering is now gone...... probably a good thing, allows me to gather thoughts and find exactly what i want, which seems to have grown after all the advice! Maybe not sold though? Alot of dealers have sor cars and might have been pulled by the seller and will return at a later date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBD914 v2 Posted April 24, 2020 Report Share Posted April 24, 2020 11 hours ago, Jonttt said: Ashgood have a good rep.... The actual car...points worth’s noting.... - its has the turbo alloys, popular upgrade but personally I prefer the Carrera S wheels - it has painted roll hoops downsides for me - it has the free leather option seats etc.....so loses a lot of what a GTS is about for me - it does not have the GTS / carbon pack which was an expensive options but most cars tend to have it (at a guess) and it makes a difference when you come to sell it ire contrast stitching, coloured rev counter, coloured GTS stitching, full carbon interior trim (instead of the silver), red edged seatbelts and floor mats (red or silver contrasts where the choices)......as these came with extended leather dash etc... as standard the contrast stitching in particular is very nice when in the cabin .....ps the other “nice” option to look for / be aware of is the GTS exterior pack, its rarer than the internal pack and gives gloss rather than Matt exterior GTS parts.....it really makes the GTS trim “pop” compared to the Matt 😉 I agree with all your comments except the last one. I have had two GTS's, one with the gloss exterior pack and one without. I found that the gloss finish chipped badly and looked a mess very quickly, whereas the Matt finish does not chip so looks better in the long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBD914 v2 Posted April 24, 2020 Report Share Posted April 24, 2020 13 hours ago, 718as said: or u can have this for same money. https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/boxster-981-12-16/porsche-boxster-roadster-2-5-718-s-2dr-pdk/10506720 Looks fantastic. Not a 981 as the advert states incorrectly though....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSMarky Posted April 24, 2020 Report Share Posted April 24, 2020 Out of all of the car links on this thread I’d take the Spyder! the blue GTS is OK but as said won’t feel like it without the full GTS interior. The grey one is a 4 pot and just not for me as nice a car as it is.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSMarky Posted April 24, 2020 Report Share Posted April 24, 2020 In fact I’d be tempted to chop my GTS in for the spyder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patt Posted April 24, 2020 Report Share Posted April 24, 2020 The GTS internal trim option, is the only bit you couldn't add to a S. The GTS was about 6K cheaper than specking out an S with the same options - when I looked to buy one new anyway. It does have the best options and the Techequipment exterior kit looks way better than standard. Searching for a GTS does ensure you get most of the nice to have options, and thus reduces the aggro of the search. But the badge snobbery is the only thing keeping the prices so inflated. No other car could charge such a premium in the 2nd hand market for options fitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonttt Posted April 24, 2020 Report Share Posted April 24, 2020 At the risk of repeating myself....albeits a well acknowledged fact the GTS is more than the sum of its parts......it is NOT just a well specced S........different mapping, different sound, different emotional experience........it was generally accepted to be one of those rare cars that is simply more than the sum of its parts........Porsche sprinkled a little bit of magic on the 981 GTS and that is why they are so well regarded in the market over a well specced S.......the best thing really is for the OP to actually drive one and experience it for himself....... It will be interesting to see how the 718 GTS 6 cylinder compares as it is likely not to be able to replicate that sound in quite the same way ......time will tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIkeyv60 Posted April 24, 2020 Report Share Posted April 24, 2020 I think ecu is tweaked and the throttle bodies are bigger to give the xtra power? The pse is identical ref sound but the gts has the sound symposer ( piped in sound ) so im guessing that makes a bit of a difference , As said it the interior pack that make it that bit more special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooose Posted April 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Jonttt said: .....the best thing really is for the OP to actually drive one and experience it for himself....... Exactly what I have decided to do! To find the right spec means spending quite a premium over a good spec S and I need to see for myself if its worth that extra outlay or not. Based on GTS owners on here, I suspect it is but I really need to find out for myself.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz05 Posted April 24, 2020 Report Share Posted April 24, 2020 The only difference is plastic, trimmings and the software mapping. For me at least, the sum of its parts argument applies when you have mechanical differences that all add up to alter the way it steers and drives. When I drove the 987 Spyder I felt that argument applied because the little changes did alter the experience. When I drove the GTS I was won over by the aesthetics of it rather than the experience. The ultimate drivers 981 rag top is the Spyder, followed by an S or a GTS with a manual box and X73 fitted, buckets and perhaps the LSD if you can disable the rear braking malarkey. The price differential comes from the fact they are typically newer cars with a great spec as standard whereas the standard spec on the other models is horrendous and you know that options don't count towards the valuation. In the US for example you will see the gap is much less, most likely because they could option spec in packages. All that said that blue one was well priced and I'd have been tempted myself if I didn't already have mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zagamuffin Posted April 24, 2020 Report Share Posted April 24, 2020 Personally apart from the kit which I’d love and a little badge snobbery it wasn’t worth an extra 20k for me , got a very high specced S and I don’t have a single regret.Funny how similar specced when new set the S more expensive but now there’s such a premium, can’t imagine another brand where that would be found/tolerated but that’s where Porsche marketing kills it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hood69 Posted April 24, 2020 Report Share Posted April 24, 2020 So if Ashgood have a GTS at ticket price of £39,000 before any horse trading and have a 20K miler 1 owner at 43K is it reasonable to expect a nice spec 20K miler to be 40K privately? On the lookout and that's the figures I've got in my head. When I look on AT the private ad's seem to price themselves above Ashgood's prices. Note-I paid £43K for a fully loaded low mileage Cayman 2.7pdk 981 off an OPC 2yrs ago so I know you need to pay for best examples but some of the private sellers surely can't be looking at retail prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz05 Posted April 24, 2020 Report Share Posted April 24, 2020 15 minutes ago, Hood69 said: So if Ashgood have a GTS at ticket price of £39,000 before any horse trading and have a 20K miler 1 owner at 43K is it reasonable to expect a nice spec 20K miler to be 40K privately? On the lookout and that's the figures I've got in my head. When I look on AT the private ad's seem to price themselves above Ashgood's prices. Note-I paid £43K for a fully loaded low mileage Cayman 2.7pdk 981 off an OPC 2yrs ago so I know you need to pay for best examples but some of the private sellers surely can't be looking at retail prices. Private sale price should in theory be calculated by the trade in value with some of the difference to retail added more to make it worth their while. Ergo private sale should be 40k max but 3x is closer to the actual. Different option combinations are more desirable than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrianb10 Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 I was looking at upgrading my S to a spyder but reading all the comments and watching so many youtube reviews looks like I need to find a mint GTS now. Excellent information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSyn Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, Adrianb10 said: I was looking at upgrading my S to a spyder but reading all the comments and watching so many youtube reviews looks like I need to find a mint GTS now. Excellent information In my opinion, from my experience, the right call Adrian. I hope you find the car you want, but when I was looking for one they are rarer cars and I accepted some compromise between what I'd like and what I bought. Before lockdown etc I was given to understand my trade in would start with a 4, maybe it will be lower now but to be honest as I'm likely not to get the car, if I do go with a new one, until later in the year who knows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIkeyv60 Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 For the next year its going to be what people are willing to pay. It will definitely a buyer market not yet but we start to move out of lockdown. All the time its sat there its losing value anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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