½cwt Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 A lot of the discussion on this centres around the dipped beam and I understand why, however how the the LEDs compare in main beams and are these event tested at MOT other than both work? I ask as I have Litronics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entdgc Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 3 hours ago, ½cwt said: A lot of the discussion on this centres around the dipped beam and I understand why, however how the the LEDs compare in main beams and are these event tested at MOT other than both work? I ask as I have Litronics. I have recently replaced my dip beams and fogs for LED's. Had MOT last week which it passed. However on returning home and actually reading the pass sheet I noticed that initially it had failed due to headlight alignment. The tester (whom I have used for a number of years) had simply adjusted the headlights and written out a pass sheet with no extra charge - very decent of him. Might point is he wasn't happy with the alignment but made no comments on the LED's. BTW does anyone know of sidelight LED or at least very white bulbs as it looks a bit odd with 'yellow' sidelights and white mains. Tried a set of Halfords LED but immediately got errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edc Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 In my 986 with Litronics I use some Cree H6W LED and never had a comment on the lights re MOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveEFI Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 19 hours ago, entdgc said: I have recently replaced my dip beams and fogs for LED's. Had MOT last week which it passed. However on returning home and actually reading the pass sheet I noticed that initially it had failed due to headlight alignment. The tester (whom I have used for a number of years) had simply adjusted the headlights and written out a pass sheet with no extra charge - very decent of him. Might point is he wasn't happy with the alignment but made no comments on the LED's. BTW does anyone know of sidelight LED or at least very white bulbs as it looks a bit odd with 'yellow' sidelights and white mains. Tried a set of Halfords LED but immediately got errors. Is it that easy a job to adjust headlight aim on our cars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entdgc Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 Just now, DaveEFI said: Is it that easy a job to adjust headlight aim on our cars? No idea! In fact after I read the 'fail' and later thought about it I realised I didn't know how to do it...Google here I come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanatoid Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 On 8/9/2020 at 11:13 AM, DaveEFI said: easy a job to adjust headlight aim on our cars? Yes, so easy did it and forgot - if you are familiar with how they lay out the vertical/horizontal adjustments in most cars there's nothing outstanding... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger C Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 On 7/31/2020 at 6:11 PM, beaks said: Hi folks, Thanks for all the comments. I've rolled the dice and ordered some for main and dipped beam. If they're amazing - great, they stay in. If not, they go in the bin. They're not the expensive Phillips jobs but they do have decent feedback on Amazon. Will be dropping them in next week at some point, I'll let y'all know how I get on. Cheers, Ian B How did you get on with these mate? Rog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger C Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 On 7/31/2020 at 6:11 PM, beaks said: Hi folks, Thanks for all the comments. I've rolled the dice and ordered some for main and dipped beam. If they're amazing - great, they stay in. If not, they go in the bin. They're not the expensive Phillips jobs but they do have decent feedback on Amazon. Will be dropping them in next week at some point, I'll let y'all know how I get on. Cheers, Ian B How did you get on with these mate? Rog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger C Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 On 7/31/2020 at 6:11 PM, beaks said: Hi folks, Thanks for all the comments. I've rolled the dice and ordered some for main and dipped beam. If they're amazing - great, they stay in. If not, they go in the bin. They're not the expensive Phillips jobs but they do have decent feedback on Amazon. Will be dropping them in next week at some point, I'll let y'all know how I get on. Cheers, Ian B How did you get on with these mate? Rog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDonald Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 On 7/29/2020 at 10:52 PM, mike597 said: Not so in my experience. Not on my boxster but I do use Philips ultinon on my daily and they are excellent, far better than halogen. This sounds like a useful tip, if expensive. I would want to replace all the front lights at the same time, Dipped, main, fogs & indicators to maintain a uniform look. Where can I get the details for these various bulbs for my 987.1? I'll buy the bulbs then have them fitted by an Indie when it goes in for other work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, McDonald said: This sounds like a useful tip, if expensive. I would want to replace all the front lights at the same time, Dipped, main, fogs & indicators to maintain a uniform look. Where can I get the details for these various bulbs for my 987.1? I'll buy the bulbs then have them fitted by an Indie when it goes in for other work. Bear in mind the MOT update this month making retro fit LEDs and Xenons an automatic fail, if the tester can detect them in any way. Be prepared to swap then over to standard for a retest just in case..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDonald Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, ½cwt said: Bear in mind the MOT update this month making retro fit LEDs and Xenons an automatic fail, if the tester can detect them in any way. Be prepared to swap then over to standard for a retest just in case..... Thanks for this warning. What is the legal way to get modern quality lights on a 2005 car? Driving by braille doesn't appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 29 minutes ago, McDonald said: Thanks for this warning. What is the legal way to get modern quality lights on a 2005 car? Driving by braille doesn't appeal. Retro fit complete Litronics as opposed to just bulbs, then they are manufacturer spec so not a fail or buy a 981.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninesomething Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just put my Citroen through the MOT with the 'illegal' LEDs. Passed no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDonald Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, ½cwt said: Retro fit complete Litronics as opposed to just bulbs, then they are manufacturer spec so not a fail or buy a 981.... Thanks, I already have Litronics. Always interested in the best lights possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaks Posted January 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 hours ago, Roger C said: How did you get on with these mate? Rog. @Roger C they're really good mate - beam pattern is much better defined and confidence is restored in driving 'briskly' in the evening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDonald Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 On 7/31/2020 at 6:11 PM, beaks said: I've rolled the dice and ordered some for main and dipped beam. I'm glad they're working well. Do you have Litronic? Can you show a link to the exact bulbs you chose? Thanks, Mc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 hours ago, McDonald said: Thanks, I already have Litronics. Always interested in the best lights possible. Litronics, which use a D2S xenon bulb, do not have an LED upgrade. There are upgraded direct replacement Xenon bulbs available however. The %age increase gains that these quote are compared to standard bulbs, not the base xenon bulb which is already significantly brighter so watch for marketing hype when selecting these. My 986 has Litronics and they do deteriorate over time and with use so I'm considering replacing but will most likely stick with standard spec ones rather than upgrades. I do however have Osram Nightbreakers in the main beam as these are standard bulbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger C Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 11 hours ago, beaks said: @Roger C they're really good mate - beam pattern is much better defined and confidence is restored in driving 'briskly' in the evening! Nice one, thats what I wanted to here, we took our 987.1 up to the New Forest back in October and how we didn't end up embedded in a horse god only knows, at times I'm sure I was driving just using 'the force' so an upgrade is well over due. I don't really fancy extending the mortgage (again) to afford the Phillips so any chance of a link to the ones you got please mate. Rog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaks Posted January 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Roger C said: Nice one, thats what I wanted to here, we took our 987.1 up to the New Forest back in October and how we didn't end up embedded in a horse god only knows, at times I'm sure I was driving just using 'the force' so an upgrade is well over due. I don't really fancy extending the mortgage (again) to afford the Phillips so any chance of a link to the ones you got please mate. Rog. Hi @Roger C Side lights - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06XZ2BQHD/ Dipped beam - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07TV41S91/ Main beam - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07QYDN1D2/ Fog lamp - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07C1269CZ/ None of these caused any issues installing or CAN errors / warning lights etc. Cheers, Ian B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaks Posted January 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 minute ago, beaks said: Hi @Roger C Side lights - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06XZ2BQHD/ Dipped beam - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07TV41S91/ Main beam - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07QYDN1D2/ Fog lamp - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07C1269CZ/ None of these caused any issues installing or CAN errors / warning lights etc. Cheers, Ian B oh, and you can also use the side light bulbs for your door / puddle lamps as well ! (they won't fit the interior light though as they're too long for the housing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger C Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 Thank you, I'll get those ordered up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Caped Crusader Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 On 8/4/2020 at 8:30 AM, AMacdonald said: I hope the "stringent quality controls" were better than the proof reading on the images! The claims of MOT compliance sound unlikely too, given the blanket ban. Still, a lot cheaper than the Philips and they look like a similar design. They appear to be made in China... https://a.aliexpress.com/_mO0xW65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Caped Crusader Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 On 8/4/2020 at 8:30 AM, AMacdonald said: I hope the "stringent quality controls" were better than the proof reading on the images! The claims of MOT compliance sound unlikely too, given the blanket ban. Still, a lot cheaper than the Philips and they look like a similar design. They appear to be made in China... https://a.aliexpress.com/_mO0xW65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Caped Crusader Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 On 8/4/2020 at 8:30 AM, AMacdonald said: I hope the "stringent quality controls" were better than the proof reading on the images! The claims of MOT compliance sound unlikely too, given the blanket ban. Still, a lot cheaper than the Philips and they look like a similar design. They appear to be made in China... https://a.aliexpress.com/_mO0xW65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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