Sanky Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 Would anyone be kind enough to share there alignment details with the M030 suspension. Or if anyone has fitted the H&R M030 springs and can share there results would be even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulQ Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) What are you looking to find.? Ive only got geo result for the -30 h&r. Edited November 20, 2020 by PaulQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanky Posted November 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 32 minutes ago, PaulQ said: What are you looking to find.? Ive only got geo result for the -30 h&r. Just want to compare it against mine, just out of interest really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulQ Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sanky said: Just want to compare it against mine, just out of interest really. From what I've seen the H&R -10 springs drop the car nearer to 20mm then 10 (though I've no first hand experience) , so the results might be closer to what I achieved while running - 30 camber/toe wise if using stock arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanky Posted November 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 31 minutes ago, PaulQ said: From what I've seen the H&R -10 springs drop the car nearer to 20mm then 10 (though I've no first hand experience) , so the results might be closer to what I achieved while running - 30 camber/toe wise if using stock arms. I did rough measurement of the ride height after fitting the new suspension, Ideally I should have done a before measurement. But the values I got were within the MO30 specification given by Porsche. Post your results if you can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edc Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 You can set the geo to whatever you want within the range adjustment. Not sure what value there is in comparing numbers unless you are unhappy and want to make a change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulQ Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, Sanky said: Post your results if you can Here you go. Bear in mind this is on - 30 h&r with the front strut slot mod for extra camber. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanky Posted February 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 Just had new tyres fitted all round, so thought would have the wheel alignment checked. These are my after results, with Koni Active Shocks and H&R M030 spec springs. The garage doing the alignment said that the rear camber was at its maximum travel, so couldn’t get it in to the green. So he did his best to try and make it equal on both sides. Do my figures look fine...the car drives fine, just the wheels look tilted inwards. But not sure if it was like that before the suspension work or alignment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edc Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 Tilted in from the top is the negative camber. It's quite a regular safe set up. You could if you felt you needed it dial in more negative camber on the front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 More camber is inevitable with the lowering and the overall suspension geometry on the car as camber increases with compression of the suspension and you have effectively compressed it by using lowering springs. When you refitted the front did you put the top mount in the same position or use the maximum travel in the slotted holes in the turrets? It is a way to get more front camber, which can be desirable. Some even elongate the slots to get a bit more so having a bit more than the factory max on the back is not really an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanky Posted February 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, ½cwt said: More camber is inevitable with the lowering and the overall suspension geometry on the car as camber increases with compression of the suspension and you have effectively compressed it by using lowering springs. When you refitted the front did you put the top mount in the same position or use the maximum travel in the slotted holes in the turrets? It is a way to get more front camber, which can be desirable. Some even elongate the slots to get a bit more so having a bit more than the factory max on the back is not really an issue. I am just concerned about the rear camber, fronts look with in spec. I understand what you are saying about it been lowered. As the garage showed me that if lifts the back up, the settings go in the green area. So am I okay having the rear camber setting set as they are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Sanky said: I am just concerned about the rear camber, fronts look with in spec. I understand what you are saying about it been lowered. As the garage showed me that if lifts the back up, the settings go in the green area. So am I okay having the rear camber setting set as they are? They are so close to being in range and are within a gnats of equal, I would not be concerned. Having checked back to my sheet for non sport suspension the rear camber range is -0°50' to -1°50' (front +0°20' to -0°40) so the increased camber is already accounted for in the lowering. I did similar to you but with standard springs and KONI Special Active dampers last year but also fitted all new coffin arms and toe links, getting the rear into spec was a balance between toe and camber as well, so with very fine adjustments on the maximum permitted by the camber bolts it got to 0°09' toe but couldn't get the camber to much more than -1°25'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edc Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 If you really want it green and with less negative camber you will either need to raise the ride height or get adjustable rear toe links. Out of spec doesn't mean in itself it's bad. My geo has always been out of factory spec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanky Posted February 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 Thanks all, you have put my mind at rest. I have replaced all the suspension arms including the inner and outer track arms. So it’s all nice and tight and drives really smooth. Will start with my full leather dash swap, now that weather is improving and we are still on this lockdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanky Posted February 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, edc said: If you really want it green and with less negative camber you will either need to raise the ride height or get adjustable rear toe links. Out of spec doesn't mean in itself it's bad. My geo has always been out of factory spec. I wonder if I should have fitted the thicker rubber compensating plate. As I think they are fitted with M030 kit and might give it that little extra lift it needed. But I’m not taking it apart again 😫 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Sanky said: I wonder if I should have fitted the thicker rubber compensating plate. As I think they are fitted with M030 kit and might give it that little extra lift it needed. But I’m not taking it apart again 😫 It is sorted, stop worrying and move on top the interior... besides why fit lowering springs and then raise it again? Edited February 17, 2021 by ½cwt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizz Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 (edited) 2 years on and it's time for mine to be done soon. I still need to take your car out for a spin @Sanky. So ive been watching a vid at La Rose Porsche which was very informative around a full suspension refresh. The part that I wanted to share here was the kit they are using for the alignment... looks very funky. 44m 25s in to see their setup. Is that similar to the hunter kit that I've read about on here? Edited April 27, 2023 by fizz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edc Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 Nothing much fancy about that Centre Gravity were you similar kit from Beissbarth over a decade ago. All alignment tools tend to have a device that locates on the hub or centre spigot to use the wheel reference point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryg Posted April 28, 2023 Report Share Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) Watched all that film, good to see a video showing all the complications that come with older cars Edited April 28, 2023 by Terryg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizz Posted May 4, 2023 Report Share Posted May 4, 2023 This looks totally fine right... 🫣 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
986T8 Posted May 4, 2023 Report Share Posted May 4, 2023 You could get it closer, for the drive to the geo, with two measuring tapes and straight wood blocks. A budget version of this: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patt Posted May 4, 2023 Report Share Posted May 4, 2023 think I posted mine in the members rides under "Molly" That was OEM M030 springs on new Bilstein B4 shocks. And more a "fast road" daily than track bias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizz Posted May 4, 2023 Report Share Posted May 4, 2023 (edited) Sadly the only place that can fit me in thats close doesnt allow you to have custom settings. Lets see how they get on with it as im expecting a call soon to say its been done. Edited May 4, 2023 by fizz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizz Posted May 4, 2023 Report Share Posted May 4, 2023 Garage just said their machine doesn't have the porsche data and they are waiting for a software update to have the Porsche one added... bunch of useless tw*ts. They won't accept the figures I want to give them to use as they need the machine to have the parameters in so they can see the traffic light colour warning visuals. Said if it's not downloaded the data by tomorrow morning they will ring me. Told them to at least straight the rear wheel out so I can drive it away rather than flat trailer again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edc Posted May 4, 2023 Report Share Posted May 4, 2023 Sounds like a small outfit who maybe only do "normal" cars or a specialist who normally work with a limited range of cars? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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