BOB.T Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 Well my car is here and sure enough, it doesn't have the brackets to fit the bars! I have two bars, nylon inserts, two longer bolts and the black bulkhead bracket. Open to offers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03slatt Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 I have a pair of these braces if anyone would like to buy them? They don't fit mine as it doesn't have the brackets. Send me a message if your interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxsum Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 Are these braces standard fit on 986’s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Boxsum said: Are these braces standard fit on 986’s? Referred to as Dome Strut in the 986 parts catalogue. No indications of fitment only to some types and all the cutaway drawings I've seen of the 986 show them fitted. Can't even find them in the 987 parts cat. That said the 987 shell is something like 30% stiffer than a 986 shell to start with. Edited March 24, 2021 by ½cwt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxsum Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, ½cwt said: Referred to as Dome Strut in the 986 parts catalogue. No indications of fitment only to some types and all the cutaway drawings I've seen of the 986 show them fitted. Can't even find them in the 987 parts cat. That said the 987 shell is something like 30% stiffer than a 986 shell to start with. Was interested as when I was shown the top mounts from above today noticed that I have the braces fitted on my car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaks Posted March 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 8 hours ago, ½cwt said: Referred to as Dome Strut in the 986 parts catalogue. No indications of fitment only to some types and all the cutaway drawings I've seen of the 986 show them fitted. Can't even find them in the 987 parts cat. That said the 987 shell is something like 30% stiffer than a 986 shell to start with. you'll find them in the 997 catalog 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 hour ago, beaks said: you'll find them in the 997 catalog 👍 Didn't think of looking there... doh! Does seem to be a curious mix of 987s with or without the turret brackets though if it is only listed as a 997 part and not in the 987 cat at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaks Posted March 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 50 minutes ago, ½cwt said: Didn't think of looking there... doh! Does seem to be a curious mix of 987s with or without the turret brackets though if it is only listed as a 997 part and not in the 987 cat at all. yup it's strange. I wonder if only the 'S' variant had them? or it may just be what they had spare floating around when they built the 987 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finchy Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 Mines a 2011 S and doesn't have the mounts for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeansbeetle Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) Sorry I’ve been lurking on here for a few days now and have just signed up. I’m new to Porsche ownership and have just sold my Elise S1 and bought my brothers Boxster that he’s had for 8 years. I’ve just checked my 05 Boxster S and I have the brackets. How much are people looking for these kits that have bought them and can’t use them? Edited March 30, 2021 by Jeansbeetle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubdubz Posted April 1, 2021 Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 (edited) On 3/30/2021 at 10:02 PM, Jeansbeetle said: Sorry I’ve been lurking on here for a few days now and have just signed up. I’m new to Porsche ownership and have just sold my Elise S1 and bought my brothers Boxster that he’s had for 8 years. I’ve just checked my 05 Boxster S and I have the brackets. How much are people looking for these kits that have bought them and can’t use them? Not sure if you are sorted Jeans beetle but I only want what I paid + postage - £25 + post - I have the bulkhead bracket in the middle too - basically missing the bolts for the strut ends - everything else is there, as far as I can see DM me for details [or anyone else if interested] Edited April 1, 2021 by Dubdubz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeansbeetle Posted April 18, 2021 Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 Well that’s mine all fitted, thanks to Dubdubz for the parts and beaks for the write up! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninesomething Posted March 12, 2022 Report Share Posted March 12, 2022 Just about to do this. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/154575596469?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2763.l2649 At that price why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninesomething Posted March 13, 2022 Report Share Posted March 13, 2022 OK did it today. Faff trying to get the scuttle panel off. In the end I just lifted it up out of the way. Easy to get the bars in place except the PASM bracket was pushing the driver's side out of the way so I had to fiddle it a bit. On the road something feels a bit different first 25mph corner you take. Just a tad more direct. First I didn't think it was any more solid over bumps but after a bit I decided it was. Just a bit. First reasonably high speed corner you know something's changed. The front just bites down onto the road a bit harder and feels like it's doing more work somehow. That feeling you get when the rear digs into the road on the throttle - now I feel that at the front too. Pretty good for almost no money and a bit of cussing. Win. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phazed Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 I am slightly confused. Do the cars really need this? It would be very unlike Porsche to miss a trick or am I missing something? I have done a few track days in my 987.1 S and the car feels absolutely brilliant on the track. I can't think of anything that could be improved, (maybe a few more horses). Really interested to know someones genuine before and after findings, (on track). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, phazed said: It would be very unlike Porsche to miss a trick I think it's not so much missing a trick, and the cars are great, but remember they are mass produced and built to a budget. They have come with Bridgestone and Pirelli tyres which aren't universally loved on this board. I hear these can be the icing on the cake, eg like the short-shift, or the GT3 master cylinder - my brakes were fine before but damn they're positive now. If you're happy with it, don't bother. If you want to squeeze the max performance out of it, for relatively little outlay, go ahead. [Oh damn - or am I talking about the Bally brace at the rear?] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) This brace set up (called dome strut by Porsche) is fitted to the 996/986 and it is also fitted to the 997. Apparently some 987s have the necessary factory welded on brackets but no braces fitted, some do not have the brackets. The front end of the 987/997 is a lot stiffer than the 986/996, so the factory I guess did not see the need to fit them to the 987 as a standard item and it does not appear in the parts cat for the 987 but is there in the 997 so is a direct fit. All the parts listed in the first post on this thread are 996 related parts and go on to the factory fitted brackets. So if you want one, check you have at least the welded brackets in place and then get the parts from that list and if it is not fitted, the central bulkhead bracket (Console bracket in Porsche speak) 997.504.359.01. The Techno Brace/Bally Brace (available from @bally4563) is an after market hexagonal alloy bar that fits between the rear subframes and adds stiffness to reduce flexing under load. Edited March 23, 2022 by ½cwt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 2 hours ago, ½cwt said: This brace set up (called dome strut by Porsche) is fitted to the 996/986 and it is also fitted to the 997. Apparently some 987s have the necessary factory welded on brackets but no braces fitted, some do not have the brackets. The front end of the 987/997 is a lot stiffer than the 986/996, so the factory I guess did not see the need to fit them to the 987 as a standard item and it does not appear in the parts cat for the 987 but is there in the 997 so is a direct fit. All the parts listed in the first post on this thread are 996 related parts and go on to the factory fitted brackets. So if you want one, check you have at least the welded brackets in place and then get the parts from that list and if it is not fitted, the central bulkhead bracket (Console bracket in Porsche speak) 997.504.359.01. The Techno Brace/Bally Brace (available from @bally4563) is an after market hexagonal alloy bar that fits between the rear subframes and adds stiffness to reduce flexing under load. Bally Brace, still available, to order, just need to know if it’s for a 986 or 987 manual, have developed one for a Tiptronic, @Nobbie has one for his not sure if he has fitted it though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 I fitted a front strut brace that goes between the Turrets, and you can’t see that, fits underneath the plastic covers, without looking can’t remember what make it is, and for the cost ( bought secondhand for £50) at that price I thought it was worth a go, wether placebo effect, not sure but prior to fitting my cup holder cover kepted springing open, doesn’t now !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phazed Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 On which car Bally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, phazed said: On which car Bally? My 3.4S sports edition (987.1) that I’m currently running Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, bally4563 said: My 3.4S sports edition (987.1) that I’m currently running I can post a pic of the install if anyone is interested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBB Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 On 3/12/2022 at 2:40 PM, JonSta said: Just about to do this. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/154575596469?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2763.l2649 At that price why not? Thanks for the link @JonSta. I’ve just popped the bonnet and there are the brackets that I’ve never noticed before, so I’ve ordered one based on the positive feedback here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phazed Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 I would still like to hear some definitive proof that these add ons do something. I track a Skoda vRS. Every handling upgrade has made a difference. Upgraded ARB's, coilovers, stiffer springs, quick rack, bushing, alloy wishbones etc, etc. So I well understand upgrades. When I did Cadwell last year, (in the Boxster) PASM on, flat out down the back straight, ease off just before Coppice, (left hander) and take it at about 90-95mph. Everything feels planted without the slightest wobble from the car. Oh, I track with a set of Toyo R888's fitted. Point is as Bally suggested, is it a placebo effect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 59 minutes ago, BBB said: Thanks for the link @JonSta. I’ve just popped the bonnet and there are the brackets that I’ve never noticed before, so I’ve ordered one based on the positive feedback here. Remember you need all the bits in the kit list, or at least equivalent bolts instead, listed in the very first post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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