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Just now, iborguk said:

New £400ish + VAT for the part plus it will need PIWIS coding.

OPC will be best bet re new and ask for discount.

 

 

Yes, that is what I am finding from some quick googling. People are selling 2nd hand units for more than that too!

My local OPC parts department had closed by the time I had the part numbers so not tried them yet. The car has just been registered on the classic Porsche register which I think brings a 10%(?) discount so they might be competitive.

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Actual DME is in the boot behind the carpet on the rear bullhead on a 987.  If that’s drowned - there are bigger problems. 
 

As @iborguk says. Rear control unit is the box at risk here. -  100s not 1000s to get resolved (if it’s broken) and perhaps some collateral damage to plastic ball ends on the rods if it’s gone properly nuts.  
 

 

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Boot is dry. I lowered the roof to check the drain holes and it (white plastic) had clearly been sat there a while as full of gunk. It lowered fine, brake lights are not on, spoiler is down. I still think things have probably had a drink...

Cheers all for the useful info.

If I do need a new one I might send out an appeal for coding!

 

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24 minutes ago, duff said:

Yes, that is what I am finding from some quick googling. People are selling 2nd hand units for more than that too!

My local OPC parts department had closed by the time I had the part numbers so not tried them yet. The car has just been registered on the classic Porsche register which I think brings a 10%(?) discount so they might be competitive.

If it needs coding get them to do too and you'll get 15% on the parts as a Classic Porsche to offset the higher labour costs and it should be done properly.

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3 minutes ago, ½cwt said:

If it needs coding get them to do too and you'll get 15% on the parts as a Classic Porsche to offset the higher labour costs and it should be done properly.

My car is a 2007 Boxster S 987. I don't think it qualifies for classic Porsche according to my googling...

 

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Just now, Propofol said:

My car is a 2007 Boxster S 987. I don't think it qualifies for classic Porsche according to my googling...

 

987, all models, qualify for Classic Porsche membership now.

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9 minutes ago, Propofol said:

Boot is dry. I lowered the roof to check the drain holes and it (white plastic) had clearly been sat there a while as full of gunk. It lowered fine, brake lights are not on, spoiler is down. I still think things have probably had a drink...

Cheers all for the useful info.

If I do need a new one I might send out an appeal for coding!

 

I can code it for you if it comes to that.   I am in Strood.  

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3 hours ago, duff said:

Yeah I am pretty certain there isn't much point drying out the rear control unit and giving it a go - I think it is toast.

 

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If a job's worth doing... 👍

 

Not so much toast, as turning to Stilton in time for Christmas.

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A quick update:

The OPC is by far the cheapest place I have found to buy a new, un-coded control unit. With the Classic Porsche discount it is £372.

To get it coded I am told is (at least) an hour and obviously here the OPC is not competitive at all at £200 an hour, nearly double what a local specialist quoted.

This makes the pre coded unit look like the best option both in terms of price and not needing to take the car somewhere after it is fitted.

The car itself is now pretty dry after running the dehumidifier constantly for the last few days. I am planning to get the seats and other interior bits back in this weekend, weather allowing, and once the unit arrives it is hopefully just a case of plugging it in and she’ll be back to normal. Although I suspect getting the roof arms back on the ball joints might be hard work.

The only question mark I have is over the ‘park assist’ control unit. It looked ok when I opened it up so I am hoping to re-use it. However I am still struggling to find out exactly what it does and hence what issues I would see if it is broken. Taking the wording literally I didn’t think the car has any park assist functions. Any insight here would be great.

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33 minutes ago, duff said:

A quick update:

The OPC is by far the cheapest place I have found to buy a new, un-coded control unit. With the Classic Porsche discount it is £372.

To get it coded I am told is (at least) an hour and obviously here the OPC is not competitive at all at £200 an hour, nearly double what a local specialist quoted.

This makes the pre coded unit look like the best option both in terms of price and not needing to take the car somewhere after it is fitted.

The car itself is now pretty dry after running the dehumidifier constantly for the last few days. I am planning to get the seats and other interior bits back in this weekend, weather allowing, and once the unit arrives it is hopefully just a case of plugging it in and she’ll be back to normal. Although I suspect getting the roof arms back on the ball joints might be hard work.

The only question mark I have is over the ‘park assist’ control unit. It looked ok when I opened it up so I am hoping to re-use it. However I am still struggling to find out exactly what it does and hence what issues I would see if it is broken. Taking the wording literally I didn’t think the car has any park assist functions. Any insight here would be great.

It’s the module that drives the reversing sensors.  If they don’t scream as soon as you put it in reverse and they seem to be working then likely all good.  
 

don’t try it until the seat is back in otherwise you will get an airbag warning that you will need to get someone to clear.  

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Ok, thanks to everyone’s great advice I now have a new rear control unit (I bought the pre-coded one) fitted and lights and rear spoiler are back to normal.

The only thing left (I hope) is to refit the roof ball joints so that the hood works again. Due to the fact it jammed in an odd position the ball joints were removed with the hood half up/half down (as per image at the start of this thread). I think I really want it up or down (I am guessing the latter is best) to re-attach the ball joints, but all advice seems to suggest not to try and use the roof mechanism without the rods attached. Is there a way to set manually move them into the up/down position? 
 

Note the windows don’t fully close right now but I am hoping this is due to the fact the car thinks the roof is half up/half down.

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Another update, I went for it and used the roof switch to rotate the roof mechanism into its lowered position. 

The windows now close correctly, which is great, but I am left with this conundrum. Of the two arms that attach to the roof one looks like it will slot in perfectly, but the other is miles out. You can't see from the image but the arm that is out appears to be adjusted to its minimum extent already.

I have run out of time and light this evening to have a proper look at what is going on but for those who have remove or refitted these ball joint am I just overlooking something obvious?
 

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1 hour ago, nelmo said:

I did mine recently - I just moved the roof using the switch until those ball joints lined up, then pushed them on. Went on easier than they came off...

Thanks for the insight and I am glad to hear they go on easier than they come off.

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Just to close this one out. 

The Boxster is now all fixed and working again.🥳

The pre-coded rear control unit from mdbdiagnostics slotted in first time and worked a treat. They email you an easy to fill in questionnaire to to collect the required info and then send it out next day delivery. I would definitely recommend this route if anyone else has this issue as it was not only cheaper than any other option I found but also much more convenient.

I realised I could actually adjust the roof rod on the side that looked misaligned and, as mentioned above, these were much easier to re-attach than to detach.

The only minor glitch was that the battery also died on me, rather inconveniently half way though testing the roof, and wouldn't take any charge so another night was spent under a cover with the roof and windows half open. I suspect the fact it was -3 didn't help the battery but I have no idea how long it had been in there either, it looks like a Porsche 'banner' unit so probably a while given the car is old and well out of warranty. I dropped in a replacement and everything now works fine.

Thanks again everyone for the help and advice.

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