bally4563 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 What the thoughts regarding this as aftermarket replacement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 For those who like a loud exhaust, I question the logic of buying any switchable one. Could just get Carnewal. For those who want switchable eg to not annoy the neighbours at 6am, it would be great to compare the different options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickH Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 59 minutes ago, bally4563 said: What the thoughts regarding this as aftermarket replacement? Love mine! 52 minutes ago, Menoporsche said: For those who like a loud exhaust, I question the logic of buying any switchable one. Could just get Carnewal. For those who want switchable eg to not annoy the neighbours at 6am, it would be great to compare the different options. You're getting a brand new exhaust. A carnewal is just an expensive modification to an old exhaust. That was my thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 Fair. I'm just thinking of the various comments I've heard about complexity of installation of the switches and at least the Porsche version failing, multiple times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iborguk Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 (edited) It's the vacuum actuators which are the weak point, on the Porsche PSE, lube 'em and use 'em. If you can live with the cost and the lead time to get hold of one I'd go Porsche PSE on that shiny 981... Edited January 11 by iborguk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iborguk Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 (edited) Devil's advocate to my last post @Stuart21UK recently went aftermarket on his and seems pleased with the outcome. Edited January 11 by iborguk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart21UK Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 2 hours ago, Menoporsche said: For those who like a loud exhaust, I question the logic of buying any switchable one. Could just get Carnewal. For those who want switchable eg to not annoy the neighbours at 6am, it would be great to compare the different options. Mine will annoy the neighbours 'off' and don't forget about a cold start too 5 minutes ago, iborguk said: Devil's advocate to my last post @Stuart21UK recently went aftermarket on his and seems pleased with the outcome. Yep love it (Topgear) and tbh I've had 2 PSE exhausts on my car in the 10 years I've owned it and 60k odd miles.....PSE is good but isn't exactly reliable and it's not just the actuators I've had problems with 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Lardo Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 43 minutes ago, iborguk said: It's the vacuum actuators which are the weak point, on the Porsche PSE, lube 'em and use 'em. If you can live with the cost and the lead time to get hold of one I'd go Porsche PSE on that shiny 981... Lead time is the big thing surely? I've been told "end of this month" every month since September and I'd read that they had been on back order for up to a year before that. PSE isn't really an option is they can't supply one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 Yup this is what we've heard for a year or more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygo Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 (edited) So non available still? what are you meant to do if you need a new PSE and you would like to keep the Porsche warranty? They can't supply a new part under warranty, so what happens then? Edited January 11 by andygo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patt Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 Gave up waiting for a replacement PSE system from Porsche. My valves had both stuck closed, despite being used almost every day. i also went with a valved TopGear system - I've had multiple issues with their vacuum actuators leaking the vacuum (brings up a coolant error on the dash) Even a warranty replacement fitted in November now needs replacing ! The top gear is slightly louder than a PSE in quiet mode, and significantly more so in "sports mode" Cold starts may be an issue if your neighbours like to complain as the initial bark will make you jump. However most neigbours like to complain and forget their own short comings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted January 11 Author Report Share Posted January 11 I’m going down the Carnewal GT route , the Spyder performance on my 987 I fitted , I was regularly underneath freeing off the valves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patt Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 If I were to order a new car, I would do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted January 11 Author Report Share Posted January 11 5 minutes ago, Patt said: If I were to order a new car, I would do the same. If you listen to the sound track on his website, sounds just about right IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patt Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 heard one in real life 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted January 11 Author Report Share Posted January 11 I can get the design tec nearly brand new for 500 bag collected from up north , then I would need the Bluetooth switching around 150 bag, or go Carnewal all in with all the gaskets, delivery/ return for similar money , plus I would if I go with DTec would have to purchase gaskets etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted January 11 Author Report Share Posted January 11 2 minutes ago, Patt said: heard one in real life 😉 And? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patt Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 Much better than a standard system, I would be sorting out the switch for the re-map as the extra pops n bangs make even my Old Fart chuckle like a kid. On the 986 platform the Carnewall was just the same as the PSE, without the extra pipework. Actually I'd prob be more tempted to go Carnewall manifolds that the silencers, in the hope or releasing a few ponies too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted January 11 Author Report Share Posted January 11 20 minutes ago, Patt said: Much better than a standard system, I would be sorting out the switch for the re-map as the extra pops n bangs make even my Old Fart chuckle like a kid. On the 986 platform the Carnewall was just the same as the PSE, without the extra pipework. Actually I'd prob be more tempted to go Carnewall manifolds that the silencers, in the hope or releasing a few ponies too. I’ve tried to copy the Carnewal gt sound track on here but having no joy 😡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted January 11 Author Report Share Posted January 11 Ordered!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Lardo Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 Latest update from local dealer, PSE on back order until mid-February. At least this time they skipped the whole of January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonners Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 Always liked the sound of the Carnewal I put on my 987. Presume you will be fitting it yourself Mick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted January 11 Author Report Share Posted January 11 5 minutes ago, Jonners said: Always liked the sound of the Carnewal I put on my 987. Presume you will be fitting it yourself Mick? Of course 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.tourette23 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 I enjoyed the Designtek on my 987. 2 Cayman, didn't quite have all the theatre of PSE on the 981 but was a welcome upgrade all tbe same 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cocky Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 @CliveHfitted a Carnewal to his (987 BE) and it sounded really good. I think it's a good sweet spot of not being too over the top but giving the driver a nice sound track which is in my mind what is most important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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