Sanky Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 Has anyone fitted the Litronic retrofit kit to a 986.2? I've fitted the kit, but can't get the low beam xenon to kick up when high beam is selected. Link below if folks aren't familiar with it. Porsche 911 Carrera Litronic Headlamp Installation - 996 (1998-2005) - 997 (2005-2012) - Pelican Parts Technical Article Using this Module 996 618 015 10, which I am not sure is the issue or what I am trying to do is not for UK cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edc Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 Not the kit but there is a how to in the how to section written by I think Duffy from several years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helm hurst Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 I have it to fit. I think I saw somewhere you swap those two wires around. There are youtube vids showing the install. FCP euro I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanky Posted January 28 Author Report Share Posted January 28 (edited) 11 hours ago, edc said: Not the kit but there is a how to in the how to section written by I think Duffy from several years ago. Thanks found the thread. So I may need to find the specific control module that is supplied with the retrofit kit. As I just picked on up from eBay thinking they would all be the same. Those of you that have factory fitted litronic, do your low beam kick up with the high beam is switched on? @Richard Hamilton, seen some of your old post on this subject. Can you recall if need to use a specific control module to get this feature to work? Edited January 28 by Sanky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanky Posted January 28 Author Report Share Posted January 28 8 hours ago, helm hurst said: I have it to fit. I think I saw somewhere you swap those two wires around. There are youtube vids showing the install. FCP euro I think. I’ve looked on YT and the net and not seen anything about this. If you can link the post it would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helm hurst Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 Try this. Go to about 36mins in for the swap info'. However his car is an early one. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanky Posted January 28 Author Report Share Posted January 28 2 hours ago, helm hurst said: Try this. Go to about 36mins in for the swap info'. However his car is an early one. Good luck These for aftermarket lights, I’m fitting genuine Porsche Litronic headlights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Sanky said: These for aftermarket lights, I’m fitting genuine Porsche Litronic headlights. For a genuine retro fit, have you added the ride height sensors to the left side suspension front and rear. This could affect whether the main beam flip up is working as these are required to level the dipped beam too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanky Posted January 28 Author Report Share Posted January 28 2 hours ago, ½cwt said: For a genuine retro fit, have you added the ride height sensors to the left side suspension front and rear. This could affect whether the main beam flip up is working as these are required to level the dipped beam too. It’s a retrofit kit that was offered from Porsche at the time. The whole point of the kit is for the low beam to flip up with the high beam. Without adding the height sensors. Only thing I can see I’m doing different is using control module with a different part number as TSB. Which may be the issue. Just need someone to tell me if factory fitted install has this feature? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 Yep, factory fit Litronic main beam has flip up of the Xenon dip lights too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schuey Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 (edited) My recently acquired 986.2 has the Litronic option from factory. However, I must admit they are still pretty poor to modern LED lights! lol Comparing to my 992 which has PDLS+ and my wife's Audi which has matrix LED's. Not a fair comparison but when you get used to the better lighting it's hard to adjust when jumping into the Boxster. Any advice on how to brighten them up? Nevertheless, it's a nice factory option and they look good on the car, so happy days! Edited January 30 by Schuey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 Make sure the lenses are nice and clear, they tend to yellow with age. Stepping back the the 986 even with Litronic from a modern LED equipped car is quite noticeable. However much better than the H7 candle lit versions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edc Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 You can also change the bulbs. The HID lose some efficiency with use over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schuey Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, edc said: You can also change the bulbs. The HID lose some efficiency with use over the years. Ah ok. Which bulbs would you recommend? Need to get from the dealer or can get from elsewhere? 2 hours ago, ½cwt said: Make sure the lenses are nice and clear, they tend to yellow with age. Stepping back the the 986 even with Litronic from a modern LED equipped car is quite noticeable. However much better than the H7 candle lit versions. Thanks, the lenses are clean to be fair but you're right, compared to the modern cars not great. I suppose they were good at the time, but things have really improved since then. But if changing the bulbs is an option, then I will try that to get some improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edc Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 I haven't changed mine but past posts show good experience with the Philips ones. I'd get one of https://www.powerbulbs.com/product/philips-xenon-whitevision-gen2-d2s-single https://www.powerbulbs.com/product/philips-xenon-x-treme-vision-gen2-d2s-single 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schuey Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 Thanks edc, that's helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul P Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 For the 987.2 the Porsche parts list for replacement xenon bulbs lists the Phillips offering. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 (edited) I put new Osram standard D2S bulbs in my Litronics a couple of years ago and noticed a difference. Not massive, but an improvement. Edited January 30 by ½cwt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul P Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 On 1/27/2024 at 6:31 PM, Sanky said: Has anyone fitted the Litronic retrofit kit to a 986.2? I've fitted the kit, but can't get the low beam xenon to kick up when high beam is selected. Link below if folks aren't familiar with it. Porsche 911 Carrera Litronic Headlamp Installation - 996 (1998-2005) - 997 (2005-2012) - Pelican Parts Technical Article Using this Module 996 618 015 10, which I am not sure is the issue or what I am trying to do is not for UK cars. For pure nerd value I tried to find that part in the parts list. Can’t match it. Although Google searches find units with that part number and they are there plain as day on eBay. Also interested to learn about the “kick” never knew that was a thing. on the 987.2 bi-xenon there is a supplemental halogen high beam bulb because of the “warm up” time for xenon , when you flash your lights the halogen is there for instant effect and then the xenon catches up. Also interesting is that cars equipped with them don’t have front fog lights. Apparently the beam pattern is sufficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanky Posted January 31 Author Report Share Posted January 31 (edited) 13 hours ago, Paul P said: For pure nerd value I tried to find that part in the parts list. Can’t match it. Although Google searches find units with that part number and they are there plain as day on eBay. Also interested to learn about the “kick” never knew that was a thing. on the 987.2 bi-xenon there is a supplemental halogen high beam bulb because of the “warm up” time for xenon , when you flash your lights the halogen is there for instant effect and then the xenon catches up. Also interesting is that cars equipped with them don’t have front fog lights. Apparently the beam pattern is sufficient. There are not many control modules with 996 618 151 ** part number about and the ones listed on eBay seem to demand a premium, which is the part used in the retrofit-kit. Not sure on the difference yet between that and 996 618 015** module. But think I could mimic the height sensors with a few resistors to get the low beam kick up to work. Wiring loom is still available from OPC. Edited January 31 by Sanky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul P Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 I couldn't see them on the PET docs - so I am thinking its either a part number that means "its in the retro kit and is really something else" - or a special part for the kit that does what the factory kit would do if it had the height sensors..... Interesting stuff - hope you get to the bottom of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanky Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 On 1/30/2024 at 5:13 PM, Schuey said: My recently acquired 986.2 has the Litronic option from factory. However, I must admit they are still pretty poor to modern LED lights! lol Comparing to my 992 which has PDLS+ and my wife's Audi which has matrix LED's. Not a fair comparison but when you get used to the better lighting it's hard to adjust when jumping into the Boxster. Any advice on how to brighten them up? Nevertheless, it's a nice factory option and they look good on the car, so happy days! You may benefit on this kit, Porsche 986 Boxster 96-04 bi-xenon headlight repair & upgrade kit for (retrofitlab.com) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phazed Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 Without reading the whole thread, I wonder if someone can answer this question My 986 has the Litronic headlight system. I have just been putting the car back together, new suspension amongst other items and when I was dismantling, I found that the two sensors on the front and rear nearside that are linked to the coffin arms had broken arms, plastic brackets and the mounting on the sensors were also broken. I understand that this system, when working is excellent as it takes into consideration the attitude of the car and points the headlights in the right direction all the time. Question: if I leave these sensors disconnected, (remove them completely) will the headlights stay in a fixed attitude like normal headlights? Will there be any errors that come up on the dash? Reason I have asked is as usual, these parts cost an absolute fortune for what they are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 (edited) 29 minutes ago, phazed said: Without reading the whole thread, I wonder if someone can answer this question My 986 has the Litronic headlight system. I have just been putting the car back together, new suspension amongst other items and when I was dismantling, I found that the two sensors on the front and rear nearside that are linked to the coffin arms had broken arms, plastic brackets and the mounting on the sensors were also broken. I understand that this system, when working is excellent as it takes into consideration the attitude of the car and points the headlights in the right direction all the time. Question: if I leave these sensors disconnected, (remove them completely) will the headlights stay in a fixed attitude like normal headlights? Will there be any errors that come up on the dash? Reason I have asked is as usual, these parts cost an absolute fortune for what they are! One link broke on mine, you don't get any errors. Don't know if it gone through an MOT broken, but my only thought would be that it could fail on dip beam pattern, but really it should fail 'safe'. The link is about £40 from Porsche and the clip for the coffin arm about £3.50, the modules however may be salvage is a better route, or some glue to fix cracked plastic mounts, genuine are about £140 each, after market from D911 about £88 and the mount for the sensor is about £13 for Porsche. Edited February 3 by ½cwt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iborguk Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 54 minutes ago, phazed said: Without reading the whole thread, I wonder if someone can answer this question My 986 has the Litronic headlight system. I have just been putting the car back together, new suspension amongst other items and when I was dismantling, I found that the two sensors on the front and rear nearside that are linked to the coffin arms had broken arms, plastic brackets and the mounting on the sensors were also broken. I understand that this system, when working is excellent as it takes into consideration the attitude of the car and points the headlights in the right direction all the time. Question: if I leave these sensors disconnected, (remove them completely) will the headlights stay in a fixed attitude like normal headlights? Will there be any errors that come up on the dash? Reason I have asked is as usual, these parts cost an absolute fortune for what they are! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272646302833 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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