paulguitar Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 I've bought the stalk unit to retrofit cruise control on my new 981 Boxster S 2012. Just wondering if anyone here has the means to code it in? Porsche refuses to code a second-hand part. I'm based in the West Midlands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cozzykim Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 34 minutes ago, paulguitar said: I've bought the stalk unit to retrofit cruise control on my new 981 Boxster S 2012. Just wondering if anyone here has the means to code it in? Porsche refuses to code a second-hand part. I'm based in the West Midlands. MLR in Stoke did my 987.2 a couple of years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 They will , I retro fitted mine , had it coded at a independent, however they could not make it work ,because it requires another code from Porsche to ignite it ( activation code ), contacted OPC Wilmslow who want £80 for doing it , so mine is fitted and loaded but not activated yet , as I have yet got round to doing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulguitar Posted April 17 Author Report Share Posted April 17 On 4/10/2024 at 9:17 PM, bally4563 said: They will , I retro fitted mine , had it coded at a independent, however they could not make it work ,because it requires another code from Porsche to ignite it ( activation code ), contacted OPC Wilmslow who want £80 for doing it , so mine is fitted and loaded but not activated yet , as I have yet got round to doing it Had my used CC stalks fitted yesterday at an indy. He was unable to code it. I am trying to get this sorted out today, but the latest is that to get the required activation code, I have to buy the part new from Porsche at £400...I will update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxtastic Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 I have seen this source for Porsche codes quoted before, but have no experience of using it myself:- https://www.code-porsche.com/ Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 5 hours ago, paulguitar said: Had my used CC stalks fitted yesterday at an indy. He was unable to code it. I am trying to get this sorted out today, but the latest is that to get the required activation code, I have to buy the part new from Porsche at £400...I will update. I got mine coded for free as they could not activate OPC Wilmslow want £80 to activate it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulguitar Posted April 17 Author Report Share Posted April 17 22 minutes ago, bally4563 said: I got mine coded for free as they could not activate OPC Wilmslow want £80 to activate it I spoke with Wilmslow today and they don't think they can do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulguitar Posted April 17 Author Report Share Posted April 17 23 minutes ago, boxtastic said: I have seen this source for Porsche codes quoted before, but have no experience of using it myself:- https://www.code-porsche.com/ Good luck This would solve the problem if it works...Thanks, I will look into this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 20 minutes ago, paulguitar said: I spoke with Wilmslow today and they don't think they can do it. I spoke with the Service manager about 2 months ago and that’s what he quoted me?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulguitar Posted April 17 Author Report Share Posted April 17 6 minutes ago, bally4563 said: I spoke with the Service manager about 2 months ago and that’s what he quoted me?!! I think things have changed. It seems they will no longer give out an activation code unless the part has been supplied by an OPC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul P Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 1 hour ago, boxtastic said: I have seen this source for Porsche codes quoted before, but have no experience of using it myself:- https://www.code-porsche.com/ Good luck He charges about £100 for the code as far as I remember - I know folks who have bought 987.2 PCM Map codes from him, given he's ( I think ) is based in Russia - then perhaps he's still actually in business perhaps not , and (reaching for my tinfoil to make a new hat) - sending bank transfers to dodgy people in russia might be a bad idea right now... pays your money, takes your chances, looks out for the black helicopters. With reference to OP - would have thought indy would have known about the activation code requirement before hand - it shouldn't come as a surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulguitar Posted April 17 Author Report Share Posted April 17 Just now, Paul P said: He charges about £100 for the code as far as I remember - I know folks who have bought 987.2 PCM Map codes from him, given he's ( I think ) is based in Russia - then perhaps he's still actually in business perhaps not , and (reaching for my tinfoil to make a new hat) - sending bank transfers to dodgy people in russia might be a bad idea right now... pays your money, takes your chances, looks out for the black helicopters. With reference to OP - would have thought indy would have known about the activation code requirement before hand - it shouldn't come as a surprise. The indy has coded many cars successfully before, but it seems Porsche is implementing this change from the 981 onwards. He's fitted and coded the hardware to my car, but it seems there is no way of getting the activation code from Porsche. If that website works, I'd be tempted. I'd feel better having heard from someone who has used it without issues if there is anyone around here who has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 1 minute ago, paulguitar said: The indy has coded many cars successfully before, but it seems Porsche is implementing this change from the 981 onwards. He's fitted and coded the hardware to my car, but it seems there is no way of getting the activation code from Porsche. If that website works, I'd be tempted. I'd feel better having heard from someone who has used it without issues if there is anyone around here who has. Which Indy coded it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulguitar Posted April 17 Author Report Share Posted April 17 Just now, bally4563 said: Which Indy coded it ? MLR in Stoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul P Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 3 minutes ago, paulguitar said: The indy has coded many cars successfully before, but it seems Porsche is implementing this change from the 981 onwards. He's fitted and coded the hardware to my car, but it seems there is no way of getting the activation code from Porsche. If that website works, I'd be tempted. I'd feel better having heard from someone who has used it without issues if there is anyone around here who has. Yup - but its not a new thing that the 981 onwards needs an activation code - that's what I mean - it shouldn't be a surprise to an indy - it's been fact since they rolled off the production line in 2012. The fact that a "back door" operation is in play means that you can't simply ask an OPC nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulguitar Posted April 17 Author Report Share Posted April 17 1 minute ago, Paul P said: Yup - but its not a new thing that the 981 onwards needs an activation code - that's what I mean - it shouldn't be a surprise to an indy - it's been fact since they rolled off the production line in 2012. The fact that a "back door" operation is in play means that you can't simply ask an OPC nicely. Something seems to have changed. The indy was genuinely surprised by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 2 minutes ago, Paul P said: Yup - but its not a new thing that the 981 onwards needs an activation code - that's what I mean - it shouldn't be a surprise to an indy - it's been fact since they rolled off the production line in 2012. The fact that a "back door" operation is in play means that you can't simply ask an OPC nicely. I bet the code is a one time/use only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iborguk Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 The code will be tied to the vin and will be usable/reusable only on that vin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul P Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 Just now, bally4563 said: I bet the code is a one time/use only It's a code that is generated by the Porsche backend system - you feed it the "product code" ( whatever the "seed value" is for Cruise Control) and the target Vehicle VIN - it spits out a "key" that works for that product on that car - exactly the same principal as the map updates - thats why the 3rd party map update providers send the maps on a USB stick - they ask for the vin beforehand and craft a self extracting update tool onto the USB - so you don't need PIWIS in that case - that only works for the PCM (since thats a computer in its own right) - things like Cruise need PIWIS.... They started to do it on the 987.2 - retrofitted Sports Chronos is 800 quid - 80 quid for th switch 720 quid for the code...... - and they generate the key from the product code and the vin The 3rd party providers have manged to crack the "maths" required for 981 cruise by the looks - interestingly - they never cracked it for 987.2 chronos..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 5 minutes ago, iborguk said: The code will be tied to the vin and will be usable/reusable only on that vin. I guessed as much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul P Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 7 minutes ago, paulguitar said: Something seems to have changed. The indy was genuinely surprised by it. Hmm.... it's been well known for a while - here's a BoXa post from 2017 discussing it - I don't know how they would have done it successfully without Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulguitar Posted April 17 Author Report Share Posted April 17 My current situation is that I now have a cruise control unit fitted into my car which is a brick. I need to spend £400 with Porsche to get the same unit from them to get a code. So I am very tempted by that code site if it is going to work. I have messaged them and asked if they have some reviews I can read... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 1 minute ago, paulguitar said: My current situation is that I now have a cruise control unit fitted into my car which is a brick. I need to spend £400 with Porsche to get the same unit from them to get a code. So I am very tempted by that code site if it is going to work. I have messaged them and asked if they have some reviews I can read... I’ve just gone to the code site, and requested see what they come back with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulguitar Posted April 17 Author Report Share Posted April 17 1 minute ago, bally4563 said: I’ve just gone to the code site, and requested see what they come back with Me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 7 minutes ago, paulguitar said: Me too. Be interesting to see if they come back and if so what MLR would want to fire up there PIWIS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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