JustCruzin Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 Hi there I managed to bag a new Cayman 718 S PDK in November. Went for lava orange and high gloss black wheels. I am regretting not getting PDLS as I noticed pretty much straight away that the lights were quite dim compared to my now sold BMW Z4 35iS which is why I have ventured onto this forum. Is it true that the base headlamps have a new 25 w bi-xenon bulb (Philips DLS) which makes them 'legal' without the washer and self-levelling?? When I initially looked up the dipped beam bulb spec two websites suggested the bulbs would be D3S but now I think these are only for PDLS models (non-LED of course). Also I have learned that the front bumper assembly needs removing to pop out the headlamps!!? A little hacked off as I have to D3S bulbs sitting in my glove box.... Does anyone have any experience of this? Cheers JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topradio Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 Great looking car and welcome to the forum. I can't believe that the lights are any lower power than the non-PDLS's on the 981, in which case, apart from pub bragging rights, they should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gutley Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 Nice. Is that your own garage??!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo_UK Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 Nice! What spec did you choose in the end? Also - is that your garage and car collection!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustCruzin Posted February 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 LOL No I wish. It is a large 'barn' where my detailer stores cars for various folk much wealthier than me. Some lovely classics there. Specs wise I went for sports chrono, PASM, PSE, Porsche Connect with nav (wish I had gone for connect plus though), Bose system. Must admit I'm a little sad if I cannot upgrade the bulbs but hey ho, didn't by a Cayman for the headlamps. Cheers JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topradio Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 That's the way to look at it. After all you're likely to have most of your fun while the suns shining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason986S Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 That is a fantastic looking car! I'm sure @Menoporsche will be along shortly to agree for obvious reasons ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringer250 Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 Great looking car! The lower power 25w do away with the need fo washers and self levelling. Upgrade to 35w, it comes with washers and levellers. There was a thread on here a while back, maybe worth a search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenman Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 There's a thread on here about changing to 35w units (in a 981), you have to change the ballasts as well. i can't believe the bumper must be removed, surely it's just the same as in the 981, there being a special tool in the tool kit for removing the headlight unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 Lovely car If it makes you feel any better I wasn't overly impressed with the PDSL on my loan 718. They didn't really seem any brighter just whiter. Only reason they worked better was because of the high beam assist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringer250 Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 Confirmation the 718 does need the bumper to come off for headlight removal and bulb replacement! http://www.718forum.com/forum/electronics-audio-lighting/5586-718-tool-box-headlight-removal-tool.html Bit of a backward step! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenman Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 That's bonkers,not only does the bumper need removing but you also have to recode on PIWIS. I wonder if they have had issues with headlights dropping out /breaking or similar with 981 - it's not an issue I have heard of if so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustCruzin Posted February 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 14 hours ago, Jason986S said: That is a fantastic looking car! I'm sure @Menoporsche will be along shortly to agree for obvious reasons ? Meaning? Looking forward to finding out why. Apologies, don't what PIWIS is but this is all beginning to sound complicated. I was told that the bumper removal for enabling headlamp unit removal was to reduce the chances of theft..... I'm hoping that in the future the DLS bulbs will become available with whiter colour temperatures. Incidentally I'm pretty sure both D3S and DLS bulbs have integrated ballasts. Cheers JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason986S Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, JustCruzin said: Meaning? Looking forward to finding out why. Apologies, don't what PIWIS is but this is all beginning to sound complicated. I was told that the bumper removal for enabling headlamp unit removal was to reduce the chances of theft..... I'm hoping that in the future the DLS bulbs will become available with whiter colour temperatures. Incidentally I'm pretty sure both D3S and DLS bulbs have integrated ballasts. Cheers JC PIWIS is the Porsche diagnostics and programming computer software. Meno drives a bright orange 987 ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topradio Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 13 minutes ago, JustCruzin said: Apologies, don't what PIWIS is but this is all beginning to sound complicated. I was told that the bumper removal for enabling headlamp unit removal was to reduce the chances of theft..... Did the salesman tell you that? They do come out with some bullshyate. I have never heard of the headlamps being stolen on a 986, 987 or 981. It would be easier to nick the whole car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbikerdood Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 I so love the colour,congrats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustCruzin Posted February 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 22 minutes ago, topradio said: Did the salesman tell you that? They do come out with some bullshyate. I have never heard of the headlamps being stolen on a 986, 987 or 981. It would be easier to nick the whole car. Spot on. They knew less than I did about the bulb specifications which didn't exactly create a great deal of faith. It took them 3 phone calls to find out that the bumper needed removing and the icing on the cake was that their third call was to a non-franchise Porsche specialist..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_ Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 2 hours ago, Ringer250 said: Confirmation the 718 does need the bumper to come off for headlight removal and bulb replacement! http://www.718forum.com/forum/electronics-audio-lighting/5586-718-tool-box-headlight-removal-tool.html Bit of a backward step! Crazy! So that is Porsche saying to the majority of owners we must do this for you at cost. The old approach since day 1 of 986 2.5 worked a treat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 Hey JC how's it going mate? I'm on the Z4 forum less and less these days.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo_UK Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 16 hours ago, JustCruzin said: No I wish. It is a large 'barn' where my detailer stores cars for various folk much wealthier than me. Some lovely classics there. Must admit, once I saw the lighting rig I though it might be a detailer......or just a bloody good way to get the showroom experience every day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcornet Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 Lovely colour and spec, enjoy the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart21UK Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustCruzin Posted February 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 5 hours ago, Stark said: Hey JC how's it going mate? I'm on the Z4 forum less and less these days.... Hey man great to see you on here. Was feeling a little lonely on the Z4 Forum and very happy to have been welcomed here. Hope you're keeping well friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 Did someone say orange? mine has close to same colour scheme (different shade of orange) modeled on 997 GT3RS). On phone now, will link a pic later. You are right about lights and wattage but @T24RES has upgraded his recently so can give you tips. As @nick_usa said to me; welcome to the pumpkin patch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toeside Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 Another Z4 forumite! Very nice colour and car. That is officially crazy btw to have to remove the bumper for headlight replacement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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