½cwt Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 59 minutes ago, fewtrees said: As a biker I can say that never happens. If you can, you will. Fair point. Different tool for a different job. You can put the popcorn away @Menoporsche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 But I just heated up some fresh sweet butter topping 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del_tl1000r Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 52 minutes ago, MickH said: HAHAHA!!! I knew you would get a bike, last time we were on the road bikes I could tell its was going to happen, even though you didn't think so. That looks lovely Del! PS not seen much from you on Strava again! I know mate. Been a bit preoccupied looking for a bike and it's too 🔥🔥. I don't particularly like cycling in this weather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickH Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Del_tl1000r said: I know mate. Been a bit preoccupied looking for a bike and it's too 🔥🔥. I don't particularly like cycling in this weather Went out at 8 the other night, conditions were perfect. Nae excuses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del_tl1000r Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 Just now, MickH said: Went out at 8 the other night, conditions were perfect. Nae excuses! 🤣🤣I was out last night but on the one with the engine! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubdubz Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 (edited) well Thursday - I used the jig that @bally4563 rented out - all I can say is its amazing, and if I hadnt been an impatient tool - it would have been perfect. Rent the tool and wait is my humbled and lesson learned advice! As it is I *think I am going to helicoil it.... Its a looser than the others, I didnt foobar, not as in I think it will pull out but you can feel its slacker and the female thread is not super clean - but I guess I should find out what the torque settings are and try and see if a stud pulls out? edit > 17ft lbs or 23 nm so not massive tight actuallyWhat would you do? I have some 8 x 1.25 x 2d [which means 16mm long inserts] and the install kit - its reamed out to 8.3 so I think there is enough meat to do so.... ? Edited June 15, 2023 by Dubdubz found torque figures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 Threadlock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 Carefully run an M8 x 1.25 tap into the hole and see if it cleans it up a bit more. If you helicoil, your ae effectively tapping and M10x x1.25 thread into the old hole and the wire insert beings it back to M8x 1.25. Check in one of the other holes if it is 16mm deep otherwise you may not be able to break off the inserting tang or wind it deep enough with the inserting tool and end up with the wire coil sitting proud of the hole. The manifold bolts are M8 x 26mm and allow for the manifold flange and the gasket depth. You may need to get a 1.5D or even 1 D insert as it is a blind hole, or is you a very careful you could cut a 2D insert down. Remember you can't measure the length of a coil before fitting it as they wind in they become longer so a 2d will measure shorter than 16mm. Threadlock is an option but make sure it is a high temp one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewtrees Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 Threadlock doesn’t do so well here 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubdubz Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Menoporsche said: Threadlock? I did think that actually and was my first thought - I have some that is supposed to be high temp - loctite 272 2 hours ago, ½cwt said: Carefully run an M8 x 1.25 tap into the hole and see if it cleans it up a bit more. If you helicoil, your ae effectively tapping and M10x x1.25 thread into the old hole and the wire insert beings it back to M8x 1.25. Check in one of the other holes if it is 16mm deep otherwise you may not be able to break off the inserting tang or wind it deep enough with the inserting tool and end up with the wire coil sitting proud of the hole. The manifold bolts are M8 x 26mm and allow for the manifold flange and the gasket depth. You may need to get a 1.5D or even 1 D insert as it is a blind hole, or is you a very careful you could cut a 2D insert down. Remember you can't measure the length of a coil before fitting it as they wind in they become longer so a 2d will measure shorter than 16mm. Threadlock is an option but make sure it is a high temp one. I also have some 1.5 and some 1D ones too 🙂 - the drill bit is an 8.3mm and the tap then takes out some from that - so I would say the lower female thread ridge if you could measure across would be 8.5 or thereabouts? I did also think about timesert instead but I seem to recall that the helicoil would cope better in this situation ...but the info I cannor find now.@bally4563 I have your sales slogan - "Rent the tool dont be the tool".... You're welcome 🙂 Edited June 16, 2023 by Dubdubz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dubdubz said: I did think that actually and was my first thought - I have some that is supposed to be high temp forget - loctite 272 I also have some 1.5 and some 1D ones too 🙂 - the drill bit is an 8.3mm and the tap then takes out some from that - so I would say the lower female thread ridge if you could measure across would be 8.5 or thereabouts? I did also think about timesert instead but I seem to recall that the helicoil would cope better in this situation ...but the info I cannor find now.@bally4563 I have your sales slogan - "Rent the tool dont be the tool".... You're welcome 🙂 To properly do a timesert it needs a countersunk rim to the hole to set it to the correct depth which could be tricky working from underneath an engine. A Keensert is another option as this doesn't need the countersunk rim. A helicoil should be fine and forms to the cut thread and the bolt thread as the wire can flex slightly to suit the threads more so than a timesert or even normal tapped hole; a Cosworth DFV is put together with them in many places. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 13 hours ago, Dubdubz said: I did think that actually and was my first thought - I have some that is supposed to be high temp - loctite 272 I also have some 1.5 and some 1D ones too 🙂 - the drill bit is an 8.3mm and the tap then takes out some from that - so I would say the lower female thread ridge if you could measure across would be 8.5 or thereabouts? I did also think about timesert instead but I seem to recall that the helicoil would cope better in this situation ...but the info I cannor find now.@bally4563 I have your sales slogan - "Rent the tool dont be the tool".... You're welcome 🙂 Taken!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eob Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 Put it on this, So I could come here, To get this, 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeman Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 Not today but last Sat. Gear box down for rebuilt and as it is away let do full service, check this and that, oh, by the way "What IMS do I have there?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 15 hours ago, Freeman said: Not today but last Sat. Gear box down for rebuilt and as it is away let do full service, check this and that, oh, by the way "What IMS do I have there?" Unless it is a very early 987, then the type the needs the crank case to be split to replace... (or e very expensive machining in place operation) What's your engine number? Check it against the number ranges below: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw696 Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 I was under the impression that the larger bearing didn't give problems. I had my transmission out a year ago to sort what I thought was the RMS but it was the IMS seals which were leaking. The bearing looked and felt good so just did the seals and no oil leaks now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillbe Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 watched it depreciate in front of my eyes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_ian Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 join the club! mines on 108,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_ian Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 We're off to Wales tomorrow morning so I drove it from it's parking space in Shad Thames to somewhere close to our place so we can leave nice and early. Why is this worthy of a mention, I hear you ask. Well normally when the car sits for over a week and a half, it requires a jump start. The last time I drove it was 5 weeks ago when I ragged it up Prescott Hillclimb circuit. I've been away on business for several weeks and was shocked beyond belief when it put the key in and the windows didn't drop down and all the gauges didn't go nuts and it started first turn of the key. Not only that, it did that awesome burst into life within a fraction of a second. I guess the hot weather suits it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeman Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 6 hours ago, ½cwt said: Unless it is a very early 987, then the type the needs the crank case to be split to replace... (or e very expensive machining in place operation) What's your engine number? Check it against the number ranges below: It was first registered in May 2005 so this should have the larger internal bearing (don't have the engine number with me) but it is always better to have visual confirmation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Freeman said: It was first registered in May 2005 so this should have the larger internal bearing (don't have the engine number with me) but it is always better to have visual confirmation. Highly unlikely to have a smaller bearing then. No one has yet come up with an engine number to contradict this Porsche data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takahashi Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 took mine for MOT after doing the oil and plugs, its been stored, but started regularly for the last 18 months. started spluttering on the way to the MOT, even with fresh fuel, and thought i mustnt have done something up properly reinstalling the plugs. Engine warning light on, and its a fault of cylinder no.4 new coil packs ordered. spotted oil on the intake pipe, new AOS ordered. got rust on the brake lines, new braided hoses ordered, and i'll pop the covers off to look at the rest. and then, the mot tester pointed out a leaking coolant pipe on the offside. That wasnt leaking when it was up on the ramps. Trying to bring myself to book it in to have the crossover pipes done... with my wifes 40th next week, and no hoiday booked for the kids for the second year in a row.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinten Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 (edited) Not my 987, but @TGI_J's... fixed the (already replaced) horn which randomly stopped working. Nice and loud again! Edited June 20, 2023 by Quinten 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eob Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Quinten said: Not my 987, but @TGI_J's... fixed the (already replaced) horn which randomly stopped working. Nice and loud again! Is that the trumpet horns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinten Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 Just now, eob said: Is that the trumpet horns? Just added an image. It's a Ring Automotive compact horn from Halfords 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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