tony_zx9r Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 For those of you with 981's who have changed the wheels a few times, you may have noticed that the OEM tool for the 981 is made of cheese. The tool that came with the car was completely mashed so I bought a new one from the OPC Reading. Only about £15 so not an issue but did take about a month to arrive. Anyways before I went to Stuttgart, I swapped my wheels for the Winters. Knowing the tool is delicate, I tried to do the locking wheel nuts up with care but still somehow manage to bu*ger the tool up again after only its 2nd or 3rd use from new. So, I am not keen to buy another OEM tool as I am sure the same thing will happen again. This means I only have two choices: 1) Buy 4 more ordinary bolts and do away with the locking wheel nuts altogether 2) Buy 4 after-market locking wheel nuts and a new tool My preference is for option 2 but I wanted to ask if anyone has any recommendations in what make to buy or what to look out for ? thanks Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zagamuffin Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 Am also about to get rid of my locking nuts , and replace with std bolts. Am thinking of ebay set of 20 to get the new look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zagamuffin Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 Already bought wheel pegs for ease of replacement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robporsche Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 I had the same issue when I bought mine, got a new key and then ask opc for 4 normal bolts. Don't t have a locking nuts onto the wheels and did the same with my s3 aswell after Audi buggered that up and didnt tell me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony_zx9r Posted November 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 2 hours ago, zagamuffin said: Already bought wheel pegs for ease of replacement what are wheel pegs ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringer250 Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 15 minutes ago, tony_zx9r said: what are wheel pegs ? As per picture - used to guide/hold wheel on while you replace bolts. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Genuine-Porsche-wheel-guide-hanger/dp/B074CQ6JZ2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart21UK Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 does he mean one of these? Steve pipped me whilst I was looking for a pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mneil Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 After the second key gave up the ghost I also got rid of the locking bolts and replaced with standard ones. The wheel peg was a great purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zagamuffin Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Stuart21UK said: does he mean one of these? Steve pipped me whilst I was looking for a pic There the ones, makes lining up heavy 20” rims easy peasey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patt Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 I have a set of black lockers with key sat in the shed if you need. I instantly went for option 2 as I do with every car I own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topbox Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 29 minutes ago, Patt said: I have a set of black lockers with key sat in the shed if you need. I instantly went for option 2 as I do with every car I own. What make of lockers do you use Patt?? Thanks, handy to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony_zx9r Posted November 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 11 hours ago, Ringer250 said: As per picture - used to guide/hold wheel on while you replace bolts. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Genuine-Porsche-wheel-guide-hanger/dp/B074CQ6JZ2 Ah, yes, I have two of them, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony_zx9r Posted November 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 35 minutes ago, Patt said: I have a set of black lockers with key sat in the shed if you need. I instantly went for option 2 as I do with every car I own. Sounds interesting, are they new or used ? How much would you like for them ? thanks Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz05 Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 Are you guys over tightening them as I have the wheels on and off all the time and key is fine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patt Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 I miss-quoted. I went with option 3 - remove all lockers and put in standard bolts. It even appears as an advisory when Revolution service the car "locking wheel nuts missing" ☺️ They were on the car from new. I can't remember what Millage Alice was on when I bought her, it was less than 30K. They are in good condition else I would have binned them. Think I also have the silver set from Molly too. No idea what they are worth - how does a bottle of vodka sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony_zx9r Posted November 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 40 minutes ago, daz05 said: Are you guys over tightening them as I have the wheels on and off all the time and key is fine? 120 nm so I don't think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony_zx9r Posted November 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Patt said: They were on the car from new. I can't remember what Millage Alice was on when I bought her, it was less than 30K. They are in good condition else I would have binned them. Think I also have the silver set from Molly too. No idea what they are worth - how does a bottle of vodka sound? Are the black lockers Porsche OEM items or after-market ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patt Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 Both sets are OEM Porsche Tony It's very hard to find good aftermarket with the correct radius collars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony_zx9r Posted November 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, Patt said: Both sets are OEM Porsche Tony It's very hard to find good aftermarket with the correct radius collars. Ah, after the problems I have had, I definitely do not want OEM items but thanks for the offer. I am looking at McGard at the moment - anyone tried their bolts / lockers before ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulQ Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 3 hours ago, tony_zx9r said: I am looking at McGard at the moment - anyone tried their bolts / lockers before ? Yes, but not on a Porsche. Decent quality. Saying that, I've got the Porsche lockers on my car (silver type) with multi splines, and they are absolutely fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araf Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 4 hours ago, tony_zx9r said: I am looking at McGard at the moment - anyone tried their bolts / lockers before ? They were standard on our VXR8 and were fine, but like most here, I don't like locking nuts or bolts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony_zx9r Posted November 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 I have ordered a set of Mc Gard locking wheel bolts. Finding the right code was not easy and I am still not 100% sure that these are the right ones although I was told by two separate people at Performance Alloys in NI that these were the correct bolts. I will check them when they arrive against the OEM items before I fit them and report back. If this doesn't work, I will dump the locking bolts and just fit ordinary OEM bolts 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T911UK Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 When did anyone hear of some one having their wheels nicked? 1983 for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patt Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 In 1983 it was wheel trims !😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenman Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 Well the torques on the 981 are supposed to be 160nm (not 120), this is quite high IMO, I’ve got to admit I usually do my locking nut a bit below that (more like 140nm) and I always loosen it slightly if I’m going to a garage/tyre place to prevent the tyres place mashing it. So far mine has been fine, I think the bigger issue is often if you never remove your wheels than the threads can seize slightly so can then cause issues, likely why Daz (and others) havn’t had issues with regular removal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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