Boxob Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 26 minutes ago, map said: This is true and yet this particular car has (according to the blurb) had the IMS Bearing replaced with a ceramic version... Wonder why? IIl informed preventive maintenance? However as they swapped the clutch it was a logical additional thing to do. Personally I would have used a new dual row bearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usman10316 Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, Boxob said: IIl informed preventive maintenance? However as they swapped the clutch it was a logical additional thing to do. Personally I would have used a new dual row bearing. I had my cars clutch replaced from Revolution Porsche - they did clutch and flywheel - but said the IMS bearing is perfect and RMS is good as well which was nice, so I didn't bother getting it done. Now.... let sods law come and bite me in the butt one of these days! 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GmanB Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 Something to consider is that although the advert says FSH. It has at some point been driven with oil over a year old, probably 2 years old at some point. 12 oil changes in 21 years isn't a good starting point or a benefit in my opinion. I would expect to see an oil change every year, regardless of mileage. Personally, I'd prefer a higher mileage car with more oil changes. It has had de-ambering and twin tail pipes put on the car, common mods for early cars, but not as the car left the factory. Interior looks in good condition, although no clear picture of the bolster drivers seat. No air con, if that's your thing, personally I hardly ever use mine. Lastly with such little mileage, I would imagine the tyres are probably old, gone hard and maybe starting cracking, so factor in costs to replace all four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo86 Posted November 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 5 hours ago, usman10316 said: This is only down to poor servicing. I did have similar work done on mine. As long as there is receipts to show the work has been done it should be good to go for a long time! I wouldn't worry about that. The dealer said last 6 services were done at a local garage. He then got the car back to somewhere it should be. The total work done on the vehicle is over 5k...so it's worth a punt as the chains have now been replace. Also my thinking is that the IMS has been done to, so should be able to sleep easy and help if I sell in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo86 Posted November 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 8 hours ago, Nobbie said: If the chains and guides have been replaced, then they seem to be the weakest link so should be ok now. At that age it's a bit of a lottery as it's rare to have a full service history, but on the plus side the 2.5 engine does seem to last well and take a lot of abuse. I think on balance I would have a good look at that car to make sure that the condition of the bodywork and interior are all A1. Listen out for any strange clocks and knocks when driving over speed bumps and turning corners as this will show up suspension that needs work. Being low mileage can often mean that it's still on it's original suspension and will need a fair bit spent to make it drive properly. Any evidence of work on the suspension? That's a high price for a 1998 2.5, but if it's in great condition it could be worth it. Have you been to see/drive others so that you can see what others of that age are like? Okay... I have booked the train from London and going to see it tomorrow morning. Adam at the dealership said that the engine management light was on so they then changed the chains. Also from a marketing perspective he said that the IMS change is often well received. He is going to have the car up on the ramp and he said the car is very clean and the brake pipes are in very good condition. I will test drive then see how I feel, honestly not the best prospect as I don't want to leave empty handed. I quite like this, but a little bit too pricey as I can't afford to take a massive hit on the resale value... https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201911064079394?fromSavedAds=true&advertising-location=at_cars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxob Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 7 hours ago, GmanB said: It has had de-ambering and twin tail pipes put on the car, common mods for early cars, but not as the car left the factory. The exhaust tail pipe on the 2.5 is an single oval and welded on so not interchangeable. As it has two pipes then it's likely the whole back box has been swapped out. The question is with what? A cheap ebay special? If so then the OP needs to be sure they can live with the noise and drone at motorway speeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 54 minutes ago, Theo86 said: quite like this, but a little bit too pricey as I can't afford to take a massive hit on the resale value... https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201911064079394?fromSavedAds=true&advertising-location=at_cars That's very strong money because of the low mileage, so yes the value is likely to fall away as you use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobbie Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 47 minutes ago, Boxob said: The exhaust tail pipe on the 2.5 is an single oval and welded on so not interchangeable. As it has two pipes then it's likely the whole back box has been swapped out. The question is with what? A cheap ebay special? If so then the OP needs to be sure they can live with the noise and drone at motorway speeds. Good spot, the tail pipes look similar to my Toyosport backbox which is pretty loud and quite intrusive between 2500-2700rpm which correlates well to motorway cruising. Easy to think that's great on a short test drive, but need to think whether you can live with that level of noise on a permanent basis. Worth asking what make it is and searching on here for views before you buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo86 Posted November 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 Okay, good advice regarding the rear box...I'm wondering now if the journey is worth while! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobbie Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 41 minutes ago, Theo86 said: Okay, good advice regarding the rear box...I'm wondering now if the journey is worth while! It's probably better going to see it and not being sure about it, than go thinking you're definitely going to buy it. Go and have a look at it, drive it, and make a judgement based on that rather than an impression you've come to from reading the advert and chatting to the salesman. If nothing else, it gives you something to compare the next one you see with. There are plenty of these around and it's a buyer's market in Nov/Dec. I'm lucky I bought a good one off a chap on here as I had little idea what a Boxster should drive like and probably wouldn't have spotted a lot of common faults. At least with a dealer you've got some comeback, but not much on a 20 year old car. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo86 Posted November 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 Sage words Nobbie, lets give the benefit of the doubt to the dealer. I looked at their website today and recognise the sales guy (meet the team picture) on a how to buy a porsche guide. I will go in with my eyes wide open. Good thing going on this forum as I have learnt a few things. I made a mistake a couple of years ago looking at a car long distance (Mx5 ZSport) and could see some faults in the paint work and hood, dropped the price from 6k to 5.5k but should have walked away. This feels like Deju Vu...got a single train ticket and told my wife I would be driving the car home tomorrow afternoon, just like last time. I will give you an update tomorrow evening, special thanks to all, for your contributions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GmanB Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Theo86 said: Sage words Nobbie, lets give the benefit of the doubt to the dealer. I looked at their website today and recognise the sales guy (meet the team picture) on a how to buy a porsche guide. I will go in with my eyes wide open. Good thing going on this forum as I have learnt a few things. I made a mistake a couple of years ago looking at a car long distance (Mx5 ZSport) and could see some faults in the paint work and hood, dropped the price from 6k to 5.5k but should have walked away. This feels like Deju Vu...got a single train ticket and told my wife I would be driving the car home tomorrow afternoon, just like last time. I will give you an update tomorrow evening, special thanks to all, for your contributions... Good luck, if nothing else it gives you a benchmark for next time. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubaregs Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 Don't tell the salesman you bought a single. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topradio Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 IMO never go with the definite intention of buying, it makes it more difficult to be dispassionate. And never tell the salesman that you have a one-way ticket or even how far you have travelled, it gives them lots of leverage. I always go assuming that the car is going to have hidden faults that I can't see from the pictures or description and that way I'm in a frame of mind to walk away if it's not right. My niece is in the market for a car and found one that happened to be near to me and was just about to put a deposit down but asked me to take a look. I drove over to see it and found half a dozen little red flags that put me off the car. Individually each fault seemed to be no big deal but collectively they added up to a potentially problematic car. She is still looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usman10316 Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 If you have a code reader, that would be really useful. Check codes before a test drive, drive the car, check codes again - make sure you let the car get to temperature quite a few times to make sure the fans are coming on and cooling the car - check the coolant as well and cap number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 Good luck mate, hope the journey is worthwhile. I was torn between a Boxster and an MX5. I have a Guards Red 1998 986 that I went to collect from Kent on the train from Wolverhampton. 8 months in and to this day I am not sure whether it was a good choice or not to buy it in all honesty , although I love the car itself! The £2k to spend on it in the first year has already come to fruition and mine was a 'good trustworthy car off the forum' . The amount is made up of a major service, 2 new tyres , new inner arches all round , a bumper respray , a new key fob , some suspension work , new door membranes and a brake fluid change. Still got an 'issue' to resolve that I am having to bite the bullet on and am going to Wolverhampton Porsche next week as my Porsche Specialist cannot sort it. Let us know how it goes tomorrow 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usman10316 Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Truth said: Good luck mate, hope the journey is worthwhile. I was torn between a Boxster and an MX5. I have a Guards Red 1998 986 that I went to collect from Kent on the train from Wolverhampton. 8 months in and to this day I am not sure whether it was a good choice or not to buy it in all honesty , although I love the car itself! The £2k to spend on it in the first year has already come to fruition and mine was a 'good trustworthy car off the forum' . The amount is made up of a major service, 2 new tyres , new inner arches all round , a bumper respray , a new key fob , some suspension work , new door membranes and a brake fluid change. Still got an 'issue' to resolve that I am having to bite the bullet on and am going to Wolverhampton Porsche next week as my Porsche Specialist cannot sort it. Let us know how it goes tomorrow 👍 The 2K budget for the first year of ownership is definitely real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 Deffo Usman ! I was told it was and as you say its 'real' .... just hope the spend lessons over time 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usman10316 Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 Just now, Truth said: Deffo Usman ! I was told it was and as you say its 'real' .... just hope the spend lessons over time 😂 It should do, take relief in knowing that these jobs have been done and shouldn't need doing for a long while! I was unfortunate enough to have to do the big job of chain tensioners on mine, but now I know the car is perfect (well, mostly!) and all the big jobs have been done. This year it has cost me only £500ish excluding the usual, insurance, road tax etc. That was 2 rear tyres Michelin Pilot 4, and I got engine mount done. The only other cost I will have is an oil service that I'll DIY. So here's hoping next year it will be less! Its not my daily anymore, so hoping it should be. The other thing is, if your hating the car, take it out for a nice long drive at a quiet time and come home with a smile - then you'll remember why you love it 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 Thats the other problem , I am mechanically useless so can't do anything myself. I can't moan as I was warned about the costs by the forum 👍 As you say , the long drive at a quiet time does the trick...... well in the Summer more so 😎...... 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usman10316 Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 I was useless with a spanner, but now I do know how to open things and sort of put them back on. I can do all the servicing which is a bonus I guess, I used to own a 924 - so from working on that and watching my dad work on it for me, I learnt a few things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 I picked up a lot off my Dad watching him use a spanner too........ hence I am so shyte 😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey P Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 9 hours ago, topradio said: IMO never go with the definite intention of buying, it makes it more difficult to be dispassionate. This ^ is exactly what I do. Nearly every time I go to look at a car, I end up buying it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggy Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 A few negative comments on here. Cavendish are only 5 miles from me, my son also worked there for a couple of years. I have no connection with them, so an unbiased view. The car will have been through their workshop and any known faults picked up and repaired, unlike a non Indy trader or private sale(not all). Also not good for their reputation as an Indy to sell a bad one. Bearing in mind it's a 20 year old car, i think there are a LOT of worse cars out there. I think, worth a train ride and test drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo86 Posted November 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 58 minutes ago, ziggy said: A few negative comments on here. Cavendish are only 5 miles from me, my son also worked there for a couple of years. I have no connection with them, so an unbiased view. The car will have been through their workshop and any known faults picked up and repaired, unlike a non Indy trader or private sale(not all). Also not good for their reputation as an Indy to sell a bad one. Bearing in mind it's a 20 year old car, i think there are a LOT of worse cars out there. I think, worth a train ride and test drive. Cheers Ziggy...on the train now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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