beaks Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 (edited) Hi all, Received my 'BallyBar' from @bally4563 today and whacked it on. It's a royal 'piece of urine' to fit, but thought I'd do a quick write up on here for anyone thinking of getting one. First things first - get the car up in the air. Apparently you can do it without jacking it up but I'm not the 20 year old gazelle I once was... Note - you don't need to take the wheels off but as it was up in the air I took the opportunity to give the brakes etc a once over. Next job, using a 13mm socket remove the anti roll bar bolts on both sides (shown as 1 in the photo below). You can then pull the bar backwards to give you better access. Again, it may be possible to fit the bar without doing this, but for the sake of removing a few bolts why make life hard for yourself. Once you've done this, use a 15mm socket to loosen the nut shown below (2). Don't take it all the way off, leave 'most' of the thread showing inside the nut. Then either using a punch or a 15mm impact socket (I recommend the socket) hammer the bolt out from its the housing (it's a captive bolt). If it doesn't come out wind some more of the nut off and go again. It will come out! Obviously you'll need to remove the bolt on both sides... Next, slide in your bar and simply line it up where the bolts you've just removed once were. Drop the new bolts in, then tighten up the nuts. Not sure of the torque value, but I'd go 'half a turn before FT'... Drop the 4 anti roll bar bolts back in and that's it. Job done. Get the car back on the ground, pat yourself on the back and crack open a Stella and chill. Cheers all. Ian B Edited February 27, 2021 by beaks 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBB Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 Thanks for the write up. I have one on order too. Where did you get your Rennstands @beaks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaks Posted February 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 1 minute ago, BBB said: Thanks for the write up. I have one on order too. Where did you get your Rennstands @beaks thanks bud. bought them direct from the USA from here - https://safejacks.com/collections/compact-jack-stands not super cheap (and of course, got hit for import duty when they arrived) but they're a really good product. you can't put a price on safety! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 2 hours ago, beaks said: Hi all, Received my 'BallyBar' from @bally4563 today and whacked it on. It's a royal 'piece of urine' to fit, but thought I'd do a quick write up on here for anyone thinking of getting one. First things first - get the car up in the air. Apparently you can do it without jacking it up but I'm not the 20 year old gazelle I once was... Note - you don't need to take the wheels off but as it was up in the air I took the opportunity to give the brakes etc a once over. Next job, using a 13mm socket remove the anti roll bar bolts on both sides (shown as 1 in the photo below). You can then pull the bar backwards to give you better access. Again, it may be possible to fit the bar without doing this, but for the sake of removing a few bolts why make life hard for yourself. Once you've done this, use a 15mm socket to loosen the nut shown below (2). Don't take it all the way off, leave 'most' of the thread showing inside the nut. Then either using a punch or a 15mm impact socket (I recommend the socket) hammer the bolt out from its the housing (it's a captive bolt). If it doesn't come out wind some more of the nut off and go again. It will come out! Obviously you'll need to remove the bolt on both sides... Next, slide in your bar and simply line it up where the bolts you've just removed once were. Drop the new bolts in, then tighten up the nuts. Not sure of the torque value, but I'd go 'half a turn before FT'... Drop the 4 anti roll bar bolts back in and that's it. Job done. Get the car back on the ground, pat yourself on the back and crack open a Stella and chill. Cheers all. Ian B Nice one, tested it yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdyG Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 @beaks, great write up 👍. Will be interesting to know if you can feel any difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaks Posted February 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 just back from another one of my '#NoHibernationOnMyWatch' runs... as some of you know I 'retro fitted' a front brace to my car not so long ago and then the 'BallyBrace' today. could just be a placebo of course but I do feel a bit more confidence when driving the car hard. hard to put into words but I just 'feel' the car is under me better of late. of course, the difference both of these upgrades make isn't going to be as obvious as replacing your whole suspension... I think the last car I owned that I felt this much confidence with was my Peugeot 306 Rallye, and trust me, that car was epic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, beaks said: just back from another one of my '#NoHibernationOnMyWatch' runs... as some of you know I 'retro fitted' a front brace to my car not so long ago and then the 'BallyBrace' today. could just be a placebo of course but I do feel a bit more confidence when driving the car hard. hard to put into words but I just 'feel' the car is under me better of late. of course, the difference both of these upgrades make isn't going to be as obvious as replacing your whole suspension... I think the last car I owned that I felt this much confidence with was my Peugeot 306 Rallye, and trust me, that car was epic. I got the same feeling also, there is a tangible difference, not light and day but definitely worth doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, beaks said: Next, slide in your bar and simply line it up where the bolts you've just removed once were. Drop the new bolts in, then tighten up the nuts. Not sure of the torque value, but I'd go 'half a turn before FT'... Like the 'Bally Brace' name 👍 Torque to 65Nm or 48 lbft if you use the same torque as the original stud in this position. Nice write up, hoping to fit mine tomorrow and I ahve done all new suspension in the last 9 months. @Araf any way to modify this thread into a How To and copy it to that section of the forum? Edited February 27, 2021 by ½cwt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 Form an orderly queue!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 Mine dropped in perfectly on my 986 at the weekend. To confirm you cannot get the brace past the ARB on a 986 without undoing the ARB mounts. Nicely made product Mick. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 Mentioned elsewhere, i have three I’ve made now in stock, two for 987.1 and one for a 986, two more that have been sold, are out for delivery, so will be interesting to see the feedback from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher2110 Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 Mine arrived today. Looks great 👍 very nicely made. Will report back on fitting when I get round to it! Thanks @bally4563 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazbot Posted April 18, 2021 Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 Got mine on last week, as the suspension is slightly tired it has made a discernible difference and is allowing the Michelin PS4's to really dig in. Nice to have a low cost mod that actually has an effect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 I have materials for two more at the moment, it is much easier to knock a couple out once I’m set up than doing one every now and again. If you have followed this thread all feedback is very positive on the transition it makes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RP993 Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 hello, do you have on stock / can you produce a bar for 987.2 S? Many thanks for your reply greetings from Budapest Arpad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 On 5/23/2022 at 3:29 PM, bally4563 said: it is much easier to knock a couple out once I’m set up than doing one every now and again < childish sniggering > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 9 hours ago, RP993 said: hello, do you have on stock / can you produce a bar for 987.2 S? Many thanks for your reply greetings from Budapest Arpad Unfortunately because of the gearbox mounts I can’t do a gen2 …..yet, need to borrow a car for an hour and do some measuring up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RP993 Posted June 1, 2022 Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 You could have used my car for measurement, but it's located in Hungary. Anyway keep my wish in mind and let me know if it will be avaible Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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