hopz121 Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) Hi all. Potentially looking to change out 987.2 BE out for something else (718 GTS Maybe) Have prices softened? Most traders are thinking like £23/£24k against a part ex which seems low to me but maybe I am well out of touch with pricing. The car details are below. - 2011 (61 Plate) Porsche Boxster S Black Edition. - 34500 Miles on the clock Usual BE sec plus the following: - PDK - Sports Seats - Red Seatbelts - Porsche Logo on Storage Bin - PSE - Sports Chrono with Paddles (Sport Design Wheel) - Rear Parking Sensors The car has full history Porsche and specialist history and is due to be serviced again next Tuesday. It has a couple of small scuffs on silver edges of wheel which have been touched in and a couple of small chips on the front and rear bumper but otherwise its very clean. What do you think we could achieve through trade in / private sale? WBAC is saying £24400 but will knock a bit off due to wheel marks I would expect. Thanks Ash Edited March 16, 2022 by hopz121 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iborguk Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 Obvs the forecourt price shown but FYI ....https://www.mortimersprestige.co.uk/used-cars/13958277-porsche-boxster-gen-ii-3.4-s-black-edition/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey P Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 15 minutes ago, hopz121 said: WBAC is saying £24400 but will knock a bit off due to wheel marks I would expect. WBAC are currently valuing my car at £24,560 (2014 981 Cayman), so if you can get anywhere near £24,400 for yours I would take it mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowbos Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 31 minutes ago, hopz121 said: Hi all. Potentially looking to change out 987.2 BE out for something else (718 GTS Maybe) Have prices softened? Most traders are thinking like £23/£24k against a part ex which seems low to me but maybe I am well out of touch with pricing. The car details are below. - 2011 (61 Plate) Porsche Boxster S Black Edition. - 34500 Miles on the clock Usual BE sec plus the following: - PDK - Sports Seats - Red Seatbelts - Porsche Logo on Storage Bin - PSE - Sports Chrono with Paddles (Sport Design Wheel) - Rear Parking Sensors The car has full history Porsche and specialist history and is due to be serviced again next Tuesday. It has a couple of small scuffs on silver edges of wheel which have been touched in and a couple of small chips on the front and rear bumper but otherwise its very clean. What do you think we could achieve through trade in / private sale? WBAC is saying £24400 but will knock a bit off due to wheel marks I would expect. Thanks Ash Have you tried any specialists to see what you might achieve? I think you will do better than WBAC, they are probably pricing that as a standard 987.2 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araf Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 Retail from a dealer is around £26-27k for your car so I think £23-24k as a trade in is about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topbox Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 Yep independents are begging for good stock I believe For some reason many people like their Porsche to look like a herse so sure it will sell well 🤣 Give Ashgood a call, they are near Heathrow. I purchased my 987 from them, fair folk I found. There is the firm up near Wantage too, Maundrell. Have a good rep. here I believe. https://www.ashgood.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopz121 Posted March 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 51 minutes ago, rowbos said: Have you tried any specialists to see what you might achieve? I think you will do better than WBAC, they are probably pricing that as a standard 987.2 🤔 Only tried a couple of places both lower than WBAC! Cridfords suggested even lower than WBAC..... Apparently all black editions are the same spec according to them and no one wants the old Boxsters anymore they all want the newer ones! ..... 😂 I got the impression they didn't want it / didn't know what they were talking about! It has got me questioning the market to be fair prices seem all over the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iborguk Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 Just now, hopz121 said: Only tried a couple of places both lower than WBAC! Cridfords suggested even lower than WBAC..... Apparently all black editions are the same spec according to them and no one wants the old Boxsters anymore they all want the newer ones! ..... 😂 I got the impression they didn't want it / didn't know what they were talking about! It has got me questioning the market to be fair prices seem all over the place. Try Ashgood as someone suggested and also Paragon https://www.paragongb.com 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopz121 Posted March 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 26 minutes ago, Araf said: Retail from a dealer is around £26-27k for your car so I think £23-24k as a trade in is about right. Fair enough, seems a bit low compared to some others on the market. It one of the last ones and better spec than most for sale too. Maybe this is the true pricing, i'm struggling to see how 981 GTS are worth £50-£55k in this market though, they aren't double as good! The car we enquired to part ex against 718 GTS was up for £55k WBAC value it at under £48k! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninesomething Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 They seem to retail at high 20s so I don't think 24-ish is a million miles away. Poor, honest, starving car dealers got to make a few bob too. You could alway try to retail it yourself but that seems an unpopular choice these days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopz121 Posted March 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 I just worry about time wasters, not many folk have cash in hand for luxury cars these days. I will call ash good and paragon to see what they think, otherwise get it serviced enjoy it for a bit and try again in a few months. I was hoping to get a better deal against part exing to be honest. so they make cash on both cars but it seems dealers want to offer less than WBAC these days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopz121 Posted March 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, JonSta said: They seem to retail at high 20s so I don't think 24-ish is a million miles away. Poor, honest, starving car dealers got to make a few bob too. You could alway try to retail it yourself but that seems an unpopular choice these days. Yet to ever find an honest car dealer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninesomething Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 I can honestly say neither have I.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araf Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 1 hour ago, hopz121 said: Maybe this is the true pricing, i'm struggling to see how 981 GTS are worth £50-£55k in this market though, they aren't double as good! The car we enquired to part ex against 718 GTS was up for £55k WBAC value it at under £48k! This is similar to when I bought my 987.2 5 years ago. It was double the price of my 987.1 yet only a couple of years newer. I agree that the prices being quoted for GTS models is silly, when a well spec'd S is a lot less, but others can't think like me as the GTS models are still selling at these prices. I don't think the pricing switch on the 718 Boxster/Cayman helps your case either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopz121 Posted March 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 I think the main price reason for the large difference between the 987.1 and 987.2 though was more about reliability and gearboxes. They 981 is exactly the sam engine as fitted to urs currently. The more we think about it i think we will get it serviced next week and enjoy it and wait for the prices to drop a bit. Prices on ours should drop less that a 718 / 981 GTS hopefully. Currently the cost to change is anything between £25-£40k which is a crazy amount of cash for not mush more car! Thanks for the advice all, if we decide to sell privately i put the car up on here first. If anyone wants to downgrade there 718/981 PDK GTS and release some cash let me know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryg Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 16 hours ago, hopz121 said: I just worry about time wasters, not many folk have cash in hand for luxury cars these days. I will call ash good and paragon to see what they think, otherwise get it serviced enjoy it for a bit and try again in a few months. I was hoping to get a better deal against part exing to be honest. so they make cash on both cars but it seems dealers want to offer less than WBAC these days! I have never really understood this thinking, maybe it is because I am self employed and sell stuff every day. Your car seems to me (no expert btw) quite desirable, why not just put it on some reputable sites and give it a try? Also never pre judge what people can afford, the higher end of any market tends to survive far better than the lower end if the product or service is good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolverinemac Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 It's a lovely car. Can't see why it wouldnt sell if priced right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonttt Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 With that mileage and spec its a c£30k car retail……so anything around £24-25k private/trade in is a decent price IMHO ps I did the opposite to what your looking to do and came from a very high spec 981GTS……….one of the most fun cars I have every had with one of the best sound tracks of any car ever……….but I enjoy the 987-2 ownership experience more 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXY Posted March 19, 2022 Report Share Posted March 19, 2022 On 3/16/2022 at 2:44 PM, JonSta said: They seem to retail at high 20s so I don't think 24-ish is a million miles away. Poor, honest, starving car dealers got to make a few bob too. You could alway try to retail it yourself but that seems an unpopular choice these days. On 3/16/2022 at 2:50 PM, hopz121 said: Yet to ever find an honest car dealer No matter how cheap a car is it will NEVER be cheap enough for a dealer, they want their cake and eat it for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopz121 Posted March 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2022 Going to service it and keep it for a while longer while keeping an eye on the market. I think a 718 GTS 2.5 is looking to be the one next, I know it’s not a flat 6 but it offers an awful lot otherwise with great steering and interior and a must have option of PTV as standard which is a great. We love the 981 GTS but they are too expensive for what they offer IMO and I worry prices will drop swiftly when the market settles down. The 718 won’t be depreciation free by any means but I think it will be a great car to hold on to and enjoy for a few years. Looking for a decent spec one in a slightly rarer colour Thanks for all the advice we will get there in the end 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolverinemac Posted March 19, 2022 Report Share Posted March 19, 2022 55 minutes ago, hopz121 said: Going to service it and keep it for a while longer while keeping an eye on the market. I think a 718 GTS 2.5 is looking to be the one next, I know it’s not a flat 6 but it offers an awful lot otherwise with great steering and interior and a must have option of PTV as standard which is a great. We love the 981 GTS but they are too expensive for what they offer IMO and I worry prices will drop swiftly when the market settles down. The 718 won’t be depreciation free by any means but I think it will be a great car to hold on to and enjoy for a few years. Looking for a decent spec one in a slightly rarer colour Thanks for all the advice we will get there in the end Think you are making the right decision. The car market must stabilise at some stage. Even if your car depreciates by the same percentage the fact you are trading up the cost to change will be less 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopz121 Posted March 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2022 3 hours ago, wolverinemac said: Think you are making the right decision. The car market must stabilise at some stage. Even if your car depreciates by the same percentage the fact you are trading up the cost to change will be less Exactly this, the cost to change budget is mid £20k’s and currently we are few thousand short on a deal so hopefully in a few months we will be much closer don’t want to pay over the odds currently and also want certain spec as well. Liking viper green and racing yellow currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonttt Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 13 hours ago, hopz121 said: Going to service it and keep it for a while longer while keeping an eye on the market. I think a 718 GTS 2.5 is looking to be the one next, I know it’s not a flat 6 but it offers an awful lot otherwise with great steering and interior and a must have option of PTV as standard which is a great. We love the 981 GTS but they are too expensive for what they offer IMO and I worry prices will drop swiftly when the market settles down. The 718 won’t be depreciation free by any means but I think it will be a great car to hold on to and enjoy for a few years. Looking for a decent spec one in a slightly rarer colour Thanks for all the advice we will get there in the end Re the steering, one of the big pluses for me was moving back to the old steering feel. I only realised how much had been lost when I moved back……make sure you drive one especially if its got the steering plus which is very light for slow manoeuvres but either way feels a lot more remote when driving……you will notice it when moving from a 987 but often not at first as on a quick drive you will be more aware of cabin changes etc………It should not put you off getting a newer car but don’t assume everything is better 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopz121 Posted March 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 15 minutes ago, Jonttt said: Re the steering, one of the big pluses for me was moving back to the old steering feel. I only realised how much had been lost when I moved back……make sure you drive one especially if its got the steering plus which is very light for slow manoeuvres but either way feels a lot more remote when driving……you will notice it when moving from a 987 but often not at first as on a quick drive you will be more aware of cabin changes etc………It should not put you off getting a newer car but don’t assume everything is better 😉 Good point jonttt I haven’t driven one to be fair but the reviews say the 718 steering is much much better than 981 and for an electric rack it’s meant to be one of the best. I’ll have a drive and see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iborguk Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 I’ve driven both 718 and the 718S. No issues re the steering as far as I was concerned. The 981 is the one variant I’ve yet to drive… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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