Repair Quote

[Photogirl]

1 minute ago, greenman986s said:

ignore some of my comments then...but why does the ARB itself need replacing? Is it broken (ie an MoT issue)?

 

No, it's not a failure at present. They did not say it had to be replaced. I asked for the quote because it's got some corrosion and has been an advisory for a few years. I thought it would be convenient to get as much done as possible in one workshop visit.

[Photogirl]

1 minute ago, ½cwt said:

If that is the professional view on the MOT tester, appeal to VOSA and request a retest (done by one of their expert testers at your cost and risk of failure on other items) I got a tester struck off and his employer lost their MOT station status using this method.

Interesting - thank you. The indi which now has Bambi said they would probably have failed her on the brake pipes, but not the other items. 

[½cwt]

4 minutes ago, greenman986s said:

ignore some of my comments then...but why does the ARB itself need replacing? Is it broken (ie an MoT issue)?

 

They do get very rusty.  I had to change my front as it was corroding heavily under where the bushes fit, the rear will be done too as a lot of the paint finish has now flaked off but not a high priority.

[greenman986s]

surface corrosion can be "sanded" off and then repaint the ARB

[Sanky]

5 minutes ago, ½cwt said:

Includes the ARB and drop links from the way I read it.

Ahh okay.

Maybe the garage doesn't want the work, hence quoting higher prices.   GLW

[Photogirl]

3 minutes ago, greenman986s said:

surface corrosion can be "sanded" off and then repaint the ARB

I've done that in the past with the brake pipes, but the MOT tester clobbered me for it.  

[Photogirl]

3 minutes ago, Sanky said:

Ahh okay.

Maybe the garage doesn't want the work, hence quoting higher prices.   GLW

OMG - how dare they not want my custom  😆

I can't think why that would be though, they are Porsche specialists and do tonnes of classics. They don't seem faint-hearted and this is fairly routine stuff. 

[½cwt]

Just now, greenman986s said:

surface corrosion can be "sanded" off and then repaint the ARB

Yes, I need to take it off and have a good look, but after attacking it with a wire brush on a drill, the metal had started flaking on the front one, the bush sits to the right of the collar...

 

[½cwt]

3 minutes ago, Photogirl said:

I've done that in the past with the brake pipes, but the MOT tester clobbered me for it.  

And that is fair, although I got away with it once...

[greenman986s]

i wouldn't countenance painting brake pipes...but surface corrosion on other parts is fairly typical..

[Sanky]

36 minutes ago, Photogirl said:

OMG - how dare they not want my custom  😆

I can't think why that would be though, they are Porsche specialists and do tonnes of classics. They don't seem faint-hearted and this is fairly routine stuff. 

I find some of the so called specialists in Yorkshire can have a bit of snobbery about them, when it comes to the 986 Boxster.  Think they just want folks with higher priced Porsches, who don't question anything and just pay the bill.

[Menoporsche]

We know the brake pipes can start off just looking dodgy and irritating testers, but over time can genuinely corrode and be bloody dangerous. Especially under the clips IIRC.  On a 1998 car I'd say they are worth a serious look and probably replacement.

[Photogirl]

13 minutes ago, Menoporsche said:

We know the brake pipes can start off just looking dodgy and irritating testers, but over time can genuinely corrode and be bloody dangerous. Especially under the clips IIRC.  On a 1998 car I'd say they are worth a serious look and probably replacement.

Without question - they are being replaced. Likewise the PAS lines, I don't want that hanging over me. Interestingly the MOT tester said the PAS lines were 'critical' but the Porsche engineers both said they were not an urgent issue or failure (but I'll get them done so they are at least off my mind).

What I'm aiming to do is to get everything done which is immediate and which is likely to need doing within the next year or two. 

Shame I can't afford to get the calipers done as I wanted to at least SEE where some of the expenditure has gone. 

I am still undecided about the water pump - I recall general forum advice is to replace at about this age?

Clutch - original, 65k on it, works fine albeit heavy and hurts my knee (though that has been the case since I bought the car, and as per other 986s I've driven). Do you think I should I consider this whilst they're in the vicinity?  Edit:  IMS might be affordable to do at the same time, just wondering why the advice is to leave it alone? 

Edited July 19, 2023 by Photogirl

[Photogirl]

20 minutes ago, Sanky said:

I find some of the so called specialists in Yorkshire can have a bit of snobbery about them, when it comes to the 986 Boxster.  Think they just want folks with higher priced Porsches, who don't question anything and just pay the bill.

I've never understood that attitude. The parts price and labour rate is the same regardless.  I do agree that owners of older models are more likely to question a quote - maybe the workshop is charging for all the time they spend explaining themselves?  😆

[½cwt]

Clutch weight could be the assister spring on the pedal.

[Menoporsche]

My clutch is dead at 50k miles, I think as most of them were commuting. Driving habits matter more than mileage. 

[Photogirl]

10 minutes ago, ½cwt said:

Clutch weight could be the assister spring on the pedal.

Thank you, I'll ask them about that.

[Photogirl]

1 minute ago, Menoporsche said:

My clutch is dead at 50k miles, I think as most of them were commuting. Driving habits matter more than mileage. 

I try to avoid heavy traffic and mostly have in the past - but these days it's awful, I dread driving because everywhere feels like on big traffic jam. I must say my knee is really suffering now. The Cayman is a PDK and I'm turning to that for any kind of town driving. Bambi is much nicer to drive (in my opinion, I realise others will have different tastes) and I miss using her. 

[bally4563]

It’s not necessary to drop the engine for brake pipes, however if that’s the route you are taking it would be foolish not to change the clutch and RMS, flywheel again if it’s well within tolerance you can opt to leave  for my tenpeneth worth

[Menoporsche]

Yes, with the clutch expect to change the flywheel also (assuming it's same as a 987). Another few hundred for the part, I think.

@Boxob your car is of similar vintage, any comments?

[Menoporsche]

9 hours ago, Photogirl said:

Front Shock Absorbers, Top Mounts, Bump stops and associated fittings £1440 inc VAT Pair

 

Replace Front Anti Roll Bar Links £336 inc VAT Pair (£240 inc VAT if done with Front Shock Absorbers )

 

Replace Rear Anti Roll Bar , bushes and links £659 inc VAT

 

Replace PAS pipes on steering rack and hydraulic lines from joiner half way down the car (MOT issue). £1868 inc VAT

 

Replace Coffin Arms (x3) £950 inc VAT

 

4 Wheel alignment £132 inc VAT

 

With Engine removed additional cost to replace 6 ignition coils £400 inc VAT

 

Remove engine to gain access , replace front sections of rear brake lines, replace rear sections of rear brake lines, replace hoses as required , refit and bleed system £2100 inc VAT

I added up all these numbers and came to £7789.  And am I right that you have to add VAT on top? (have never understood inc VAT).

For a 1998 2.5.

I refer to my first post in the thread.

You are displaying true love towards your car and someone else is displaying true love towards your bank account.

I do hope you get to find a trusted place that uses respectable third party parts mentioned above and knows how to solve problems on a budget, eg putting joins in pipes rather than dropping the engine.

[Photogirl]

17 minutes ago, Menoporsche said:

I added up all these numbers and came to £7789.  And am I right that you have to add VAT on top? (have never understood inc VAT).

For a 1998 2.5.

I refer to my first post in the thread.

You are displaying true love towards your car and someone else is displaying true love towards your bank account.

I do hope you get to find a trusted place that uses respectable third party parts mentioned above and knows how to solve problems on a budget, eg putting joins in pipes rather than dropping the engine.

Yes, including VAT (so none to add on top).

A few of those things don't need doing immediately and will be left off. That said the prices weren't far off another indi I consulted last year, but I'll do some more looking around.

Must admit I'm yet to find anywhere that will solve problems on a budget  😟

I'm seeing them in the morning to discuss.

 

[½cwt]

24 minutes ago, Photogirl said:

Yes, including VAT (so none to add on top).

A few of those things don't need doing immediately and will be left off. That said the prices weren't far off another indi I consulted last year, but I'll do some more looking around.

Must admit I'm yet to find anywhere that will solve problems on a budget  😟

I'm seeing them in the morning to discuss.

 

I refer you to Torque Boxsters again.

[bally4563]

2 minutes ago, ½cwt said:

I refer you to Torque Boxsters again.

And again shame you are not in  my neck of the woods 

[Photogirl]

10 hours ago, ½cwt said:

Definitely get in touch with Paul, @TROOPER88, at Torque Boxsters.  He will give honest advice on where to use Porsche and where to use other parts and he has pretty much universal good reviews.  He might even advise on getting the car to him without the MOT.

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I've bookmarked torqueboxsters - thank you, that's really good to know. At the moment getting there and back would be a limiting factor (timewise and trainwise), but would be great if or when my circumstances improve. Some of the quoted items are not all that urgent so can wait. 

The MOT failure points will have been started as I had said I wanted them doing (not expecting quite such a high quote!) But I will discuss those again tomorrow. Other bits on the list can wait.