nelmo Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) My recent MOT had an advisory for 'a leaking CV boot'. Naiive me assumed a couple of hundred quid but it seems it is the hub side which is not a rubber boot but the metal, non-replaceable casing - whole driveshaft needs replacing!! I've been quoted £2,600 to do both sides (Parr Porsche in Crawley) - is that reasonable, does anyone know? The parts alone are about £1,000, I think, so £1,600 in labour seems excessive to me... Edited October 13, 2023 by nelmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelmo Posted October 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 Holy Cow!! According to Design911, the driveshafts are £1200 EACH! Only available from Porsche....I found them on Euro car spares (I think?) at £500 each but out of stock, hence my £1000 assumption before... Anyone know of a company that might do a refurb? Google search is not finding anything either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATM Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 First of all I would not do both sides. Have you had a look at it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATM Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 minute ago, nelmo said: Holy Cow!! According to Design911, the driveshafts are £1200 EACH! Only available from Porsche....I found them on Euro car spares (I think?) at £500 each but out of stock, hence my £1000 assumption before... Anyone know of a company that might do a refurb? Google search is not finding anything either... I bought one for my 981 off eBay Have a look There are different sizes I think it is engine and / or gearbox which affects sizing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattman42 Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) I'd be looking at 2nd hand options as well - just as an example - there are quite a few listed under £200 - but need to review the listings https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204305089271?hash=item2f918842f7:g:hEkAAOSwHz9kOUQV&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4Dse0Au0T1eMfGe2zvVrft7%2BIIYR1%2BDrvkaOt6RsZ47mmJ29pOjrLB%2FGN92Y6RdBB1J30xaaezZsOBaHEdwH5LTXPuf5hW9PO0rh6U%2BQqMWBuOJ3x%2B60eigAYvIG6%2FlmmK3Mx6nKowqbQof7o6QFrQnE%2Fz6jEdOB4VIUzNZIgiIO1zyr4F6qS5IhMzj72TsmIrfnWt2L%2BAky34DiVAkmbWB4R3c50oJ0bomQwZGmhVMvaq4PKPDPLNjBbziogEYsdPn6CkKyeFzlYF6MsxPXlVPYs7R2eueleQO8Zxk1qMF%2F|tkp%3ABk9SR56hxYflYg Also seen this US company mentioned in the last for a good source of tested, 2nd hand parts https://www.ladismantler.com/porsche-987-boxster-left-rear-5-speed-481-drive-shaft-axle-987-332-024-05/ Edited October 13, 2023 by Mattman42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelmo Posted October 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 Ahh, yes, hadn't thought of that...thanks... OK, that's much better - panic over and I don't need to sell that kidney.... Spoke to some company (Driveshaft UK) who reckon they can get them much cheaper as well - see what they come back with. I guess I could just do the one side for now.... 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 52 minutes ago, nelmo said: Ahh, yes, hadn't thought of that...thanks... OK, that's much better - panic over and I don't need to sell that kidney.... Spoke to some company (Driveshaft UK) who reckon they can get them much cheaper as well - see what they come back with. I guess I could just do the one side for now.... 🤔 Don't be too hasty, there is a rubber boot on the outer end too, 996 332 293 00 (Clips are 996 332 957 00 and 996 332 257 00), a GKN aftermarket kit with clips would be about £15, a genuine one from Porsche, without clips, about £40. I know on YT you can find a vid showing an early 986 with the outer CV rusted enough to seep grease but very rare the metal section would deteriorate enough to leak grease. Someone posted info on a DIY refurb of a rusty outer CV on a 986 too, but I can't find it currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul P Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 2 hours ago, nelmo said: My recent MOT had an advisory for 'a leaking CV boot'. Naiive me assumed a couple of hundred quid but it seems it is the hub side which is not a rubber boot but the metal, non-replaceable casing - whole driveshaft needs replacing!! I've been quoted £2,600 to do both sides (Parr Porsche in Crawley) - is that reasonable, does anyone know? The parts alone are about £1,000, I think, so £1,600 in labour seems excessive to me... Can’t comment on how much labour should cost but Parr are potentially close to main dealer rates as are a few other high end specialists. suggest a few calls to see what others tell you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATM Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 26 minutes ago, Paul P said: Can’t comment on how much labour should cost but Parr are potentially close to main dealer rates as are a few other high end specialists. suggest a few calls to see what others tell you. Take wheel off Remove big nut from driveshaft and then use pusher to push driveshaft out of hub - pic 1 Might need to remove some of the suspension links / joints to get it to move around enough for clearance - I would remove the inside joints where the tracing adjusters are as these are easier to remove - no ball joint splitting - pic 2 Once the outboard end is free you need to unbolt the 6 bolts holding it to the half shaft - pic 3 Tracking I'd say an hour should be fine for a competent mechanic - per side Again you don't need to do both sides - just the busted one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelmo Posted October 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, ½cwt said: very rare the metal section would deteriorate enough to leak grease That's what they say is leaking but I'll take a look at the weekend to try confirm - I'd hope a respectable dealer wouldn't be trying that on, surely? 1 hour ago, ATM said: Remove big nut from driveshaft Yeah, that big nut is on at 350nm, I believe - no chance I am removing that with the pokey tools in my garage. It's probably a bit corroded as well and, if it is anything like my kit car, it spins as you try turn it, so getting it off WILL be a nightmare. And then my torque wrench only goes up to 300nm, so putting it back on will be just as tricky. And I have a tiny single garage which I don't think the Porsche will fit in (I certainly won't be able to open the doors to get out) AND my driveway is on a slight slope and is gravel - very hairy when using axle stands. Enough excuses? 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul P Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, nelmo said: That's what they say is leaking but I'll take a look at the weekend to try confirm - I'd hope a respectable dealer wouldn't be trying that on, surely? You would hope that you would be given options for repair so you can decide the way forward. I have nothing against Parr ( they are very well respected ) but I do get the feeling from them and Paragon that they are a bit like the main dealers in their approach to "fix" is "by the book". But sounds like there maybe some servicable parts here, and my gut feel says if something like that has got oil/greas eon it - then without disassembly you cant be sure where it's coming from. Be interesting to hear what a porsche dealer would charge to supply and fit the same part - I can't image the price would be much different ( and they will give you discount on parts and labour for classic register and/or club memberships) For £2600 - Personally I would be looking for several sets of additional opinions from other well respected indy'who perhaps might be more used to repair or used replacements etc. and benchmarking tham all against how long porsche reckon to do the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelmo Posted October 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 Yeah, there's no way I'm paying that much and there is no rush, it's not making a grinding noise yet 🙂 I did feel a little like a peasant at Parrs; no chatting, very serious, work done, here's what we found, here's the bill - there was no suggested alternative apart from a new driveshaft. If I'd turned up in a GT3, I imagine it would have been very different. I feel that if I asked them to fit some manky old rusted part from eBay, they'd walk off holding it in 2 fingers and holding their breath 🙂 However, the brake bleed they did has improved the brakes - definitely less travel now although not perfect. He did suggest braided lines would improve it more - I didn't dare ask the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattman42 Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 48 minutes ago, nelmo said: Yeah, there's no way I'm paying that much and there is no rush, it's not making a grinding noise yet 🙂 I did feel a little like a peasant at Parrs; no chatting, very serious, work done, here's what we found, here's the bill - there was no suggested alternative apart from a new driveshaft. If I'd turned up in a GT3, I imagine it would have been very different. I feel that if I asked them to fit some manky old rusted part from eBay, they'd walk off holding it in 2 fingers and holding their breath 🙂 However, the brake bleed they did has improved the brakes - definitely less travel now although not perfect. He did suggest braided lines would improve it more - I didn't dare ask the price. If you are looking for a second opinion, i hear good things about Northway in Reading - not used them myself though https://www.northway.co.uk/ My friend has a 996 and 986 and swears by AutoKraft near Newbury - https://www.autocraftkingsclere.co.uk/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 33 minutes ago, Mattman42 said: If you are looking for a second opinion, i hear good things about Northway in Reading - not used them myself though https://www.northway.co.uk/ My friend has a 996 and 986 and swears by AutoKraft near Newbury - https://www.autocraftkingsclere.co.uk/ And as OP is in Surrey, there's Torque Boxsters too. HOME | My Site Copy 2 (torqueboxsters.co.uk) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 And the usual Eporsh, who get consistently good reviews. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxstercol Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 On 10/13/2023 at 3:18 PM, Mattman42 said: If you are looking for a second opinion, i hear good things about Northway in Reading - not used them myself though https://www.northway.co.uk/ My friend has a 996 and 986 and swears by AutoKraft near Newbury - https://www.autocraftkingsclere.co.uk/ +1 for Northway. Very pragmatic in their approach & 100% trustworthy. I’m confident that this can be sorted for a fraction of the price you’ve been quoted by Parr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelmo Posted October 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 Thank you all - took a pic of the leak, very obvious: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 6 hours ago, nelmo said: Thank you all - took a pic of the leak, very obvious: That does look fekked. ☹️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelmo Posted October 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 Anyone know how i find out what the part number should be for this n/s shaft? Looked on ebay and found 3 possible part numbers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 You don’t need to go Porsche Indy etc, any reasonable garage would do that for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R25BEV Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 I can feel your pain. I looked everywhere for a good conditioned replacement for my Cayman S manual and ended up buying a new one from Porsche Edinburgh in August, £1016.51 with the PCGB discount. I got the part number from the Porsche online parts catalogue. https://www.porsche.com/uk/accessoriesandservice/classic/genuineparts/originalpartscatalogue/ Approx 4 years my near side leaked at the same place and got it refurbished by a place in Newcastle from a friend in the motor trade, but the place does not exist now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 6 speed driveshafts for 987.1: 987 332 024 23 Drive shaft left 987 332 024 24 Drive shaft right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T911UK Posted October 16, 2023 Report Share Posted October 16, 2023 Now 987 332 024 34 & 987 332 024 36 but they wont have part numbers on them so Ebay is a risk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted October 16, 2023 Report Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, T911UK said: Now 987 332 024 34 & 987 332 024 36 but they wont have part numbers on them so Ebay is a risk! They should have a rectangular white label with barcode and part number? Douglas Valley only have Tiptronic shafts listed at the moment, but might be worth dropping Steve a note. The ones I can see on eBay look pretty ropey. Teile.com on Germany have what looks like a refurbished on, but still about £240 delivered... Edited October 16, 2023 by ½cwt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelmo Posted October 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2023 20 hours ago, ½cwt said: 987 332 024 23 Drive shaft left 987 332 024 24 Drive shaft right 25 minutes ago, T911UK said: 987 332 024 34 & 987 332 024 36 Yes, those are the 4 numbers I had before - is one set for the 5-speed v. 6-speed, maybe? (That link to the parts online catalogue doesn't seem to show anything apart from a few 'lifestyle' products?) Paul from Torque Porsche is checking breakers for me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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