Porschevirgin1968 Posted October 24, 2023 Report Share Posted October 24, 2023 I've seen a 07 987 S 3.4 it says FSH however he has sent me the records but it's not had a major service since 2015, all minor since. Thoughts anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxer boy Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 You need to be more specific .What’ definitions are being used by the pair of you for “ Major “ and “ Minor “ ? Millage + time intervals + which fluids and filters + any brake components inc B fluid refresh .Evidence of drain cleans is pretty important with these esp if parked outside. Other stuff like the plugs / coil packs and main belt , air filter , pollen filter , AC gas refresh . A good sign with Porsche is an annual lubrication change .Additives deteriorate with time not millage .Also the exact oil , without going down the abyss of a car forum oil thread , Mobile 1 Ow 40 W is the manufacturers choice or very similar high end synthetic maybe a 5w 40 or 50 perhaps done at a Porsche Indy is acceptable. You need to see the spec of the oil with these imho . Oil is cheap insurance and its change out frequency pretty good indicator of the owners maintenance attitude . Skimping on this especially with older IMS bearing cars , like his one in question ,says a lot to me sends alarm bells and I start to look for my running shoes . Evidence of gear box oil refresh at yr 10 ….again manufacturers spec would be nice …..not a big ask . Plenty of cars out there for sale carefully and correctly maintained so take your time .But mixed in are equally plenty run on shoestrings as the boxster seemed back in the day to attract new owners to the marque with shallow pockets more so as they tumbled down the depreciation curves with time . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bike Loon Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 8 hours ago, Porschevirgin1968 said: I've seen a 07 987 S 3.4 it says FSH however he has sent me the records but it's not had a major service since 2015, all minor since. Thoughts anyone? Expensive road tax version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobbie Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 What’s the MOT history like? If they’ve skimped on major services, I would suspect they’ve skimped on repairs in general and you’ll be spending a lot of money making up for the lack of maintenance over the last 8 years. Plenty of well looked after cars out there, so it’s false economy to save £1k by buying a poorly maintained one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porschevirgin1968 Posted October 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Nobbie said: What’s the MOT history like? If they’ve skimped on major services, I would suspect they’ve skimped on repairs in general and you’ll be spending a lot of money making up for the lack of maintenance over the last 8 years. Plenty of well looked after cars out there, so it’s false economy to save £1k by buying a poorly maintained one. There is lots out there now, was just asking the question the MOT is OK. The car is 8k guessing that's why. Maybe they know something I don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porschevirgin1968 Posted October 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 58 minutes ago, Bike Loon said: Expensive road tax version Yep, it's good to get the feedback though and valuable feedback too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 25 minutes ago, Porschevirgin1968 said: Yep, it's good to get the feedback though and valuable feedback too. You are going to have to buy one sometime and it will always involve a risk on a 15 to 20 year old car... Just don't spend all the cash on the car, allow a contingency (up to £2k over 12 to 18 months) and get on with enjoying the Boxster experience. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelmo Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 My thoughts are that you are going to remain a virgin for many years at this rate 🤪 You are being very sensible, so well done BUT you are not driving your dream car either. IMO, you have 2 options; 1. Get your car from a dealer where you will have some peace of mind - but will cost £10k minimum. 2. If you cannot afford that, you will have to take a risk. An £8k car cannot be expected to have a perfect record, you will have to compromise. Minor services sounds fine to me - maybe take it for an early MOT and get an opinion from the guy who does that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edc Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 You need to know what is the actual difference in the service. If you look at Eporscb website for example there isn't a huge amount of difference in a minor Vs major and if you were a good DIY'er and did low mileage it may make no difference if you had 2 or even 3 minor services in a row. My car for example did 125 miles the last year and maybe 300 miles the year before. I still changed the spark plugs but honestly it's completely OTT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV8 Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 Get what ever you want but the guiding principle explained to me when I went out searching for TVRs and generally very valid on a Boxster is that unless you buy from a known enthusiast or a tidy private sale, the principle is that if you can't afford an expensive one, don't buy a cheap one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelmo Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, TV8 said: a known enthusiast or a tidy private sale Yes but that is the $64,000 question - how do you determine that? 6 minutes ago, TV8 said: if you can't afford an expensive one, don't buy a cheap one Very sensible BUT by that saying, you'd never buy anything 2nd hand, surely? The kids say it right - YOLO 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV8 Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, nelmo said: Yes but that is the $64,000 question - how do you determine that? Well, that's the fun part! I would say that to date, the OP is looking at cars being sold via smaller traders who have bought cheaper and putting a margin on. Lower probability of a bargain there? 4 minutes ago, nelmo said: Very sensible BUT by that saying, you'd never buy anything 2nd hand, surely? Not at all, people should do what they want. Given the OPs frequent questions and decisiveness (or not) I am simply saying if you can't afford an expensive one and you put all of your money into a purchase, if goes wrong and you don't have the money to fix it you are in a bad place. Someone on here bought a £500 car. Someone else bought a non-runner for £3.5k. That leaves a lot of coin for repairs and improvements and makes it more of a known quantity, especially as the OP has a trusted mechanic from memory to spend it with. The day I bought cheap on a TR6. I had the money to buy expensive but also had another car in the single garage. Several home trips on a low loader with that car in a few weeks. Sold at a loss to an independent trader.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelmo Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 You bought an old British Classic?! Are you mad, man? 😁 I do love those TR6s, they look beautiful but I'd never risk it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV8 Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 Just now, nelmo said: You bought an old British Classic?! Are you mad, man? 😁 I do love those TR6s, they look beautiful but I'd never risk it... No such thing as a bad British Classic or any make to be honest. Just bad previous owners. I had a Stag for 8 years. Fantastic car and even did a round Britain in day in it once. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV8 Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 Picture from the start in Lancashire - mine is the Pimento Red (not orange..) Very memorable 24 hours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelmo Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 Nice... Ironic, isn't it, that people do the most extreme things in the least practical cars? My kit car group once did a 'JOG for breakfast' run (before my time), starting in Sussex!! In kit cars! Has this group done anything like that in our modern, reliable and eminently more suitable cars? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV8 Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 23 minutes ago, nelmo said: Has this group done anything like that in our modern, reliable and eminently more suitable cars? Depends on the service history..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, edc said: You need to know what is the actual difference in the service. If you look at Eporscb website for example there isn't a huge amount of difference in a minor Vs major and if you were a good DIY'er and did low mileage it may make no difference if you had 2 or even 3 minor services in a row. My car for example did 125 miles the last year and maybe 300 miles the year before. I still changed the spark plugs but honestly it's completely OTT. Most indys break the service down in to the basic, oil, oil filter, basic inspection etc. Then add on cabin filter, air filter, fuel filter (where applicable) with wheels off inspection, then spark plugs (change on condition rather than age), brake fluid change separately and so on, so a minor service but with filters isn't a lot different from a major service by Porsche's definition. Once you are into the mileage and age of the cars the OP is looking at the detail of the Porsche service schedule gets hazy due to lower mileage per annum or older age for the mileage depending which way you look at it. Some things just don't need changing on a time basis (air filter for example) if the car is only doing 1500 mile a year. The most important to see is REGULAR oil & filter changes with the correct grade oil. After that anything is going to be a bit of a gamble I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattman42 Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, TV8 said: No such thing as a bad British Classic or any make to be honest. Just bad previous owners. I had a Stag for 8 years. Fantastic car and even did a round Britain in day in it once. Austin Allegro? Triumph Acclaim? Austin Maxi? There are many bad british classics around if you look - i know, i sold a bunch of them in the past and made a nice return off them when the buyer came back 6months later and P/x'ed it for something else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV8 Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 19 minutes ago, Mattman42 said: Austin Allegro? Triumph Acclaim? Austin Maxi? There are many bad british classics around if you look - i know, i sold a bunch of them in the past and made a nice return off them when the buyer came back 6months later and P/x'ed it for something else Go Mike Brewer! That was then but not now? Anything that lasts the time would be fine now due to good previous owners. They were cheap/bad cars, not like this one - double bed as well don't you know! https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14609554 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattman42 Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, TV8 said: Go Mike Brewer! That was then but not now? Anything that lasts the time would be fine now due to good previous owners. They were cheap/bad cars, not like this one - double bed as well don't you know! https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14609554 Ahhh Good old KGF - photograph on a white background and double the price it’s still an Austin maxi - my dad had one back in the day - CRD 334V - would never want to drive another - but there are weirdos out there that love that sort of stuff we’d get stuff in and think we’ll never sell it, and it would be gone in a few days! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattman42 Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, TV8 said: Go Mike Brewer! That was then but not now? Anything that lasts the time would be fine now due to good previous owners. They were cheap/bad cars, not like this one - double bed as well don't you know! https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14609554 Jeez - at risk of detailing the thread, some of the stuff they have on there is fantastic - hearing aid beige Rover 213 anyone? https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14848212 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 19 minutes ago, Mattman42 said: Jeez - at risk of detailing the thread, some of the stuff they have on there is fantastic - hearing aid beige Rover 213 anyone? https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14848212 ...otherwise known as the Honda Ballade in South Africa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porschevirgin1968 Posted October 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 Wow, this has ended up being some thread, lol. Do none of you guys work lol. Some interesting info, I always wanted a TVR. The guy opposite where I live had a yellow TVR Cerbera, he sold it and now has the awful sounding suped up Honda 2000. As a kid it was always a Capri 2.8 Injection or a mk2 escort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelmo Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, Porschevirgin1968 said: Do none of you guys work My company shutdown our office earlier this year and since working from home permanently, it's much easier to have a dedicated browser screen open all the time 🙂 ...and, yeah, I am a lazy sod as well 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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