Topbox Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 A PADM has failed on my car. The independent it's in with advise the part is currently unavailable and on back order with no delivery date available. Anyone else experienced this or has more information? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iborguk Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) I'd go straight to the source and ask a couple of OPC parts depts what the story is and if any dealers in their networks have stock on a shelf somewhere. Edited December 6, 2023 by iborguk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iborguk Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 Which side has gone ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iborguk Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 2nd hand one https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225799674924?hash=item3492b59c2c:g:zIAAAOSw27VlGtE5&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwGpWPabzSzTHW0FzcDLzFO4O%2FDByKYAL1P7IXKw3L22tDLGc0JXDkJfX2N7lf9KzHfAPX6YgHVY2j4%2F6xwsNrmvm47CLr7TkppcMTaNbgi0qRVcKVEvug4CHmsfrFky5z4QuewQx9vfAOV7CpJFNAXsOoqkNRMWodKmHFw4ZUmXH3yTC6qQsDCJj8h6CuSvZLtRyxLmMCExCBFYHIS8NQzJOUyZ220srJ4PJ7DGBNTRXWz%2BRSsLPJCx8jPhNeoQP0A%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR_y9vPOHYw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iborguk Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 Don't know if these fit a S... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115818424799?epid=22059517977&hash=item1af750e9df:g:yA4AAOSw0jxjE1qu&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA8PVffy4urzjmB5ALgXcq2KbwmzgQL11nL6YiMxma49NiXLmfUWrzMPtPjN1zGS1A0P4hJdkqw%2BwLXLmOCo4jNMH4aFR%2FsEpBBBAmbXCTPj59iYrQB1n1y5wwQEfRz3lCBXUnGxeBKqzQiOhNiBpCDQKFoo4mwR7qAfK2i9leRDu9VN7HafKBaXa3c5wCLkwptJW%2Bn%2BSSvYM%2BrE2DKrd7tQYiLibG72QUqXB1H97v0AlOuw9qA8zYMw65uECG8ThMdzbxOEr3aitJUiJJI9zqunHgMQUiX%2FXkVJiadCzLCn4LCkP51o6uOtS7gPKj%2FkhhEA%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR4yfnfSHYw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSMarky Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 49 minutes ago, iborguk said: 2nd hand one https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225799674924?hash=item3492b59c2c:g:zIAAAOSw27VlGtE5&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwGpWPabzSzTHW0FzcDLzFO4O%2FDByKYAL1P7IXKw3L22tDLGc0JXDkJfX2N7lf9KzHfAPX6YgHVY2j4%2F6xwsNrmvm47CLr7TkppcMTaNbgi0qRVcKVEvug4CHmsfrFky5z4QuewQx9vfAOV7CpJFNAXsOoqkNRMWodKmHFw4ZUmXH3yTC6qQsDCJj8h6CuSvZLtRyxLmMCExCBFYHIS8NQzJOUyZ220srJ4PJ7DGBNTRXWz%2BRSsLPJCx8jPhNeoQP0A%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR_y9vPOHYw 1/3rd the price of a new one!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iborguk Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) Current part number is 981 375 059 09 at a cost of £1400ish £959.62 (incl VAT) Edited December 6, 2023 by iborguk 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubaregs Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 They always say it's on backorder, basically it gives you some breathing space to work out how to feed a family for 79p a day for the next year or so in order to pay for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSMarky Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, iborguk said: Current part number is 981 375 059 09 at a cost of £1400ish. My maths needs adjusting too then! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMA Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, iborguk said: Current part number is 981 375 059 09 at a cost of £1400ish. They've gone up a fair bit then, cost £923ish inc VAT a couple of years ago when I did mine. Also interesting to see 2 further revision since I bought mine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmand Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 Have seen a number of posts going back a few months saying that they were on back order/not available due to the part being redesigned - but then over the last few weeks a slew of posts saying parts are back in stock and cars are being fixed. Suggest talking direct to an OPC or two - I think your Independent is perhaps a bit out of date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iborguk Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) @GTSMarky @CMA @Topbox actually it's my own maths which needs sorting. Porsche East London just quoted £959.62 (incl VAT) re 981 375 059 09 and yup they are on factory back-order... Edited December 6, 2023 by iborguk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurassicBGTS Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 You can of course keep driving the car until you get a new one, as they just revert to the hardest setting if they go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMA Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, JurassicBGTS said: You can of course keep driving the car until you get a new one, as they just revert to the hardest setting if they go. I thought they reverted to the softest setting as it's normally the pressure sensor failing to ground that causes the failure and as such the system wouldn't know how hard to set the mount was if it had failed. From driving mine with a failed one I could also feel that it wasn't set to the firmest settings. But, yes you can drive with a failed one without issue, unless you need an MOT then it's a MOT failure I believe due to the warning on the dash. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topbox Posted December 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 Thank you every one. Having tried ringing a couple of OPCs without a pickup I have emailed my local OPC who say they will email again tomorrow with info. Given these parts have a bit of a reputation for failing, think a used one would be a false economy. That is on the assumption new ones have at least a years warranty. I'll update the thread with wait, costs etc in due course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSMarky Posted December 7, 2023 Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 15 hours ago, Topbox said: think a used one would be a false economy. Some original units have never failed - it's luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSMarky Posted December 7, 2023 Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 Just checked the receipt & mine was £752.61 for the unit, £85.00 fitting - both plus VAT in October 2022. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurassicBGTS Posted December 7, 2023 Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 21 hours ago, CMA said: I thought they reverted to the softest setting as it's normally the pressure sensor failing to ground that causes the failure and as such the system wouldn't know how hard to set the mount was if it had failed. From driving mine with a failed one I could also feel that it wasn't set to the firmest settings. But, yes you can drive with a failed one without issue, unless you need an MOT then it's a MOT failure I believe due to the warning on the dash. Not according to posters on the PCBG forum, they revert to firmest, but no personal experience fortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSMarky Posted December 7, 2023 Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 I didn't really notice how dead the car felt until I drove it with x2 properly functioning units again. Yes you can drive it, but there is a discernible difference in the way the car feels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonshine Posted December 7, 2023 Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 40 minutes ago, GTSMarky said: I didn't really notice how dead the car felt until I drove it with x2 properly functioning units again. Yes you can drive it, but there is a discernible difference in the way the car feels. Are they not meant to fail / default to teh sports (hard) setting? I can’t see the car would feel less alive with them failed to teh sports setting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topbox Posted December 7, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 So PADMs are on back order, and have been for a couple of months, availability has not been announced. Can only be ordered from an OPC by a recognised Porsche service outlet, not necessarily an OPC. So I have been quoted a price for parts and labour and paid a deposit at a local Porsche Indy. Price quoted is £1091.39 P&L inc. VAT Had a quick look at how Porsche Active Drivetrain Mounts work. Info seems a bit skimpy, the best link I have posted below. Seems In Sports Plus mode they stiffen up as the engine revs increase to help with cornering stability but allow more comfort at lower speeds when they are less "active". Technology explained: Porsche Active Drivetrain Mounts - Total 911 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSMarky Posted December 7, 2023 Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, moonshine said: Are they not meant to fail / default to teh sports (hard) setting? I can’t see the car would feel less alive with them failed to teh sports setting Maybe, but the lack of interaction from them is significant. The Porsche designers/engineers do things for a reason.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMA Posted December 7, 2023 Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 27 minutes ago, GTSMarky said: The Porsche designers/engineers do things for a reason.. To get a steady income stream from regular failures? 😛 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iborguk Posted December 7, 2023 Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 No doubt covered many times before , wonder how many of these failures are mechanical vs exposure of the electrical side to the elements ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iborguk Posted December 7, 2023 Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, CMA said: To get a steady income stream from regular failures? 😛 Ironically a number of photos I've seen of these say "Made in the United Kingdom". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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