JamieG027 Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 (edited) Greetings everyone, thanks for having me. I picked up a standard 2003 S yesterday with FSH, 61K miles and a couple of minor stone chips on the front for £6K. After a fairly restrained blast from Nottingham to Stockport and back taking in the A623 I’m in love, it drives very well, everything feels tight and that noise at the naughty end of the rev counter is to die for. I previously owned a Ducati with open Termignoni pipes so sonic appeal is part of the gig for me. So, can someone recommend me a sensible exhaust set up and all the bits I would need? TIA Here she is, I’ll post better pictures at some point… PS Wheels nuts have all been replaced today. Edited February 19 by JamieG027 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iborguk Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 Welcome 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryg Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 Welcome. The bypass pipes are a good option if the original exhaust is in good enough condition, not obnoxious at low revs but start to sing as you make progress. Lots of companies do it, if you add your location it will be easier to recommend one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 Welcome aboard! Post up any questions and we'll try to help. We can be good at spending other people's money, but that is largely because we've spent our own already solving known problems, and often not the most cost effective way so have the t-shirt. Above all drive it and enjoy it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brillomaster Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 if you can handle some drone between 2500rpm and 3000rpm, these boxes are by far the best bang for top end aural enjoyment. but be under no illusion - they are loud, and they are not refined. but they do sound glorious over 4000rpm, and they are super cheap! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/195959743062?fits=Car+Make%3APorsche|Plat_Gen%3A986|Model%3ABoxster&itmmeta=01HQ2W4EPW1H67P0ZKZYPMDGXF&hash=item2da01c6256:g:h60AAOSwQRFk8EXR&itmprp=enc%3AAQAIAAAA8HLk6tpg14gF%2BiQNOgroVoSUB35nEK4ZMBC6LlsnDGfKm1NMdqAi%2Fh%2FshzB%2F%2BcZZAGeIGFPFkrvTtS9dZukVK5SXdDBZ%2BujCGuCIlB1PfU%2FoF531kCqMUUdZ1VgEE6YYrQQ3gBxpfxwIwDk0OYhfuFS%2BJMseSGZV9x%2BbSXodZ0T5wKlGPwhoOy77PYUtSdEmWeY%2FFXgyKhzits47GW1tYiYtkb6z5kLqzDA%2BzSyL%2BDY%2B5YiOIsUWUENznlavR30VY4SIxJ12ah%2BqAoVIHFxQWdYbV63vgnTEdvp2eFS%2BmkMhoriPg9XTfDXGhGH9DhUFFQ%3D%3D|tkp%3ABFBMyuuR3Lhj great for a weekend or track car, terrible for a daily driver.... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Rat Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 Welcome aboard, sounds like a decent car. Did you have an inspection done on it or check it over yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobbie Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 I would definitely get the bypass done first and see if that is enough for you before getting a Toyosport back box or similar. I like mine, but I’m a hooligan and don’t do track days with noise limits. You did well getting a 2003 3.2 for £6k👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 Exhaust - many back boxes for sale on eBay under different names, all copies of the Toyosport one. Yes it is cheap-ish, sounds great, yes it gives a (headache-inducing?) drone at a useable RPM. Some can tolerate it, others hate it. You have been warned. Getting someone to fit a bypass pipe is a bit more labour intensive but gets a nice sound without the drone. Volume depends on diameter of bypass pipe, I think. Ballpark £200? Carnewal are well loved on here with their magical internals, but from Belgium at a total of close to £1k, many might think that's too much on an old 986 (some are starting to get sniffy on a 987.1). Porsche did a PSE (Porsche Sports Exhaust) on the 986, I'm not clear about that, I think it's not switchable as on the 987. But I guess an original part is now 20 years old and of debatable value. Note that playing with the exhaust can involve horrifically corroded fasteners, swearing, skinned knuckles, and possible subsequent air leaks and error readings. Welcome to the jungle 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edc Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 Carnewal on a 986 was definitely not £1k when I did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edc Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 Eur 390 on his website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iborguk Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 http://www.carnewal.com/products/986/p86037/986-Carnewal-GT-Exhaust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 1 hour ago, edc said: Eur 390 on his website. Plus fitting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieG027 Posted February 21 Author Report Share Posted February 21 On 2/20/2024 at 7:33 AM, Terryg said: Welcome. The bypass pipes are a good option if the original exhaust is in good enough condition, not obnoxious at low revs but start to sing as you make progress. Lots of companies do it, if you add your location it will be easier to recommend one. Thanks for the info, I'm in Nottingham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieG027 Posted February 21 Author Report Share Posted February 21 21 hours ago, Fat Rat said: Welcome aboard, sounds like a decent car. Did you have an inspection done on it or check it over yourself? I got it from a collector who did all the hard work for me by going and viewing and driving a lot of cars before he bought it. I did my own research so checked it over at the viewing where he decided he didn't want to sell it, after persuasion I could tell from the passenger seat on the test drive it was a good one. I'm a professional driver and have driven hundreds of vehicles over the years including plenty on Porsches, had a 924 for a while too. I have very good feel so could see and feel the inputs matched the behaviour and that the car was doing what it should be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieG027 Posted February 21 Author Report Share Posted February 21 21 hours ago, Nobbie said: I would definitely get the bypass done first and see if that is enough for you before getting a Toyosport back box or similar. I like mine, but I’m a hooligan and don’t do track days with noise limits. You did well getting a 2003 3.2 for £6k👍 It was up for £6.8K but after persuading him to sell it when he was in the process of having seller's remorse (a new one on me) I further persuaded him to round it down to a more OCD friendly £6K. I'm the buyer version of an unscrupulous used car salesman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 23 minutes ago, JamieG027 said: It was up for £6.8K but after persuading him to sell it when he was in the process of having seller's remorse (a new one on me) I further persuaded him to round it down to a more OCD friendly £6K. I'm the buyer version of an unscrupulous used car salesman. Hope it pays off. One area to look at closely is the suspension. Any knock, creak or rattle is likely suspension related, not hood or scuttle and a refresh makes night and day difference (Bilstein B4 or Koni Special Active are OE replacement at well under half the price of the OE Porsche items (which are Bilstein). All these cars are getting tired now, although at 61k miles yours is less tired than many. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryg Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 If the car is good, that seems a pretty good price. Regarding the bypass, I don't know much about that area, but others may. Haywood and Scott are in Basildon and Revolution are in Batley so neither I know are overly convenient. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieG027 Posted February 24 Author Report Share Posted February 24 After a week and 250 miles I would say the suspension as is it is good , I presume it’s standard, it’s had some bits and bobs replaced but all standard OE by the looks of it, it could do with a refresh methinks. It does everything it should as it should, it’s grip levels are more than handy in the current late spring weather but it’s 20 year’s old so it’s about time to treat her to some new underwear. Bilstein B4 were what I was looking at, what else would you replace/refresh/add if you had £500 on top of the new shocks to give the other bits front and back a honing? I have a good specialist down the road to fit everything once gathered. It currently sits on Kumho Ecsta PS71 tyres and while they seem up to the job, they track a bit at medium speeds but feel quite grippy and they communicate well, I think a Porsche should wear Dunlops, any suggestions or ideas I can look at? The gear change is quite notchy but get’s better as it get’s warmer but is still a snick-snick when I think it should be just a snick changing up, is this normal, does a quick shift fix this? TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Nowt wrong with khumos cracking tyres at the price point PS 91 are better last a tad longer , I run them so does my mate with a DB 9 Aston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phazed Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 In your photograph, the car looks lower than standard. I doubt if this is saggy standard suspension. More than likely someone fitted lower springs. You can have the choice if you are fitting new suspension, normal height or 15–20 mm lower depending on what you buy. This is mine with just fitted Bilstein B6 suspension with 20 mm lower springs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATM Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 15 hours ago, JamieG027 said: It currently sits on Kumho Ecsta PS71 tyres and while they seem up to the job, they track a bit at medium speeds but feel quite grippy and they communicate well Alignment / GEO check? First thing I do with any new car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATM Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 15 hours ago, JamieG027 said: The gear change is quite notchy but get’s better as it get’s warmer but is still a snick-snick when I think it should be just a snick changing up, is this normal, does a quick shift fix this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 The other route to a shorter throw is to fit the standard shift from a987/997/ Direct swap over and cuts the throw by a good 25 to 30mm. The 6 speed in the 3.2 is known for being notchy particularly in 2nd until it is warm, but getting under the rear and cleaning and lubricating the mechanism (driver's side) on the gearbox. If it is tramlining then get a geo done. This is when you often find that the adjustment bolts on the rear are seized, which is corrosion between the inboard bolt and the alloy bush in the suspension arms. Only solution is new arms and bolts as often you need to cut them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phazed Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 ^^^^^^^^ Tramlining can be caused or exacerbated by semi worn tyres. Some brands are worse than others. The wider the tyre, the more likely they are to tramline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdh Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 (edited) Exhausts. Tricky one. Bypass pipes work nicely if you want to keep the standard exhaust sound when pootling around town. When giving it the beans the volume increases. It's a clever trick but make sure that your bypass pipes are stainless steel and at least 1" in diameter. I've just had mine done but the garage didn't use big enough pipes and the sound difference from stock is marginal. I reckon about £250 for the job inc labour. The Carnewal system sounds pretty much the same and I've had both. £450 buys my (plug plug) Stainless DesignTek exhaust off my 3.2S which has one long box unlike the Toyo two muffler system. The sound is louder than stock all through the rev range although not intrusive. A small amount of drone between 2800 - 3000 rpm. A nice sporty note and certainly loud enough. Ad is in the For sale section. Most if not all aftermarket exhausts will drone to some extent in a certain rev range although not noticeable with the roof up. If you like the Ducati sound, then the bypass pipes may not be enough for you although Spyder Performance do a valved system for around £500 for the parts only which sounds pretty loud. It's probably another 400 to fit (?) We do like exhausts on here so keep us posted! Phazed - that's a cracking set of wheels you got there 😉 Edited February 25 by kdh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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