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Service Indicator - OPC or Indy? (or whatever)


Withy

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My 987.1 S is asking politely for a service in 19 days.. it's done about 83k miles, and has a pretty good history at main dealers and more recently some Indys.  Last year (after I'd had the car 12 months) I got a local place to change to oil/filter and the car runs great.  What's the feeling on OPC servicing for an old car (2006)? - I see fixed price for a major service is £495 from OPC Glasgow, but don't think it would be much less from a reputable Porsche Indy like George Morrison, or Motortune (I'm in Glasgow). For the sake of £100 difference maybe OPC is the right answer.. Or do I just get a local to change oil again (but then I won't get the service indicator reset which would annoy me)

Any advice? (and I'm assuming it is a major at 80k looking at the service intervals) 

https://files1.porsche.com/filestore/download/uk/none/porscheservice-servicepricing-boxster-cayman-987/default/0fa362b8-1d2c-11e8-bbc5-0019999cd470/Boxster-Cayman-(Type-987).pdf 

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Hi Withy,

i had a very similar scenario recently too, with my 2005 car.

went to the OPC, hoping i’d get away with a major at £495 all in. By the time they’d finished, it was a little over double that.

i politely declined, and its now going to be done at a respected independant Porsche specialist.

price will be similar, although its getting six coil packs, transmission oil change and fresh brake fluid. They also thoroughly examined the car, and there is (hopefully) nothing expensive on the horizon ?

see who your local-ish Porsche specialists are, and who you think would be best. Price should be friendlier than OPC ?

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I am at half your mileage on an 05 and will be doing an oil and filter change myself.  Receipts for materials filed and I will note the service book myself.  Anything more complicated and it goes to my local race shop or less local indie.

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I don't see any advantage in using an OPC for servicing in your situation. If the Indy is cheaper and has a good rep I'd use them, although I was tempted to use my local OPC when I thought they would give me a nice courtesy car. Turns out they use BMWs?

Get a full quote from both, so you're comparing like with like and bear in mind that any parts required will have to be OEM if done at the OPC, but the Indy can give you cheaper options which can be significant saving when it comes to brakes etc.

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Cheers, all good advice. will get pricing tomorrow from the locals.  I also thought a nice loaner would be an cool idea, but can't guarantee they'd offer anything much less a Porsche

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I'd always recommend an indi if you are out of warranty.  OPC seem to like adding common items like spark plugs , aux belts and air filters as extras - yet throw in their 111 point (£200+) check in for "free".

I'm in warranty and about to use Revolution for my major service.  The wallet ache is having to buy the £5 Bosh spark plugs from Porsche at £30 each just to keep them happy with their warranty.  It's the same plug, but I have to prove they used genuine Porsche parts !

Personally I trust most independent garages more than OPC part fitters.  They can diagnose quicker and better,  and genuinely have the customer wallet and repeat business at heart.

 

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Agree with Patt ref Indys. My transition to using an Indy was based on an OPC recommendation, during a routine service, to swap out some corroded exhaust parts, on my 2007 987S.  Took the car to my local Indy to get the work done and they advised it didn’t need to be done yet. 2 years and 15k miles later, still no problems..... QED.

Local Indy = Wrightune in Wallingford, btw.

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My car also has the service warning message. I presume the only way to get rid of it is by using the appropriate software (PIWIS et al) which I dont have?

Thanks

Dave

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23 hours ago, fat haggis said:

I have the proper obd Porsche gizmo. It can reset service lights and a lot more. 

Which reminds me I have a cheap OBD port reader - will investigate if it can reset...

Thanks

Dave

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  • 2 weeks later...

Car is now with well respected Porsche Indy George Morrison in Glasgow.   They are great - got a call and they'd listed a good few things which a non Porsche specialist probably wouldn't have noticed some of which will just be sorted as part of the service.  Some advice on other things which I might want to do preventatively too.   Car has been MOT'd now too and passed, pick it up Monday.  Final bill might be interesting, but I have a huge peace of mind using these guys

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42 minutes ago, Withy said:

Car is now with well respected Porsche Indy George Morrison in Glasgow.   They are great - got a call and they'd listed a good few things which a non Porsche specialist probably wouldn't have noticed some of which will just be sorted as part of the service.  Some advice on other things which I might want to do preventatively too.   Car has been MOT'd now too and passed, pick it up Monday.  Final bill might be interesting, but I have a huge peace of mind using these guys

Sounds encouraging, let us know how you get on.

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On ‎6‎/‎16‎/‎2018 at 3:15 PM, Nobbie said:

Sounds encouraging, let us know how you get on.

+1

Guvs.

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Got car back today, drove it only for about 10 miles home in traffic but it feels good, and the exhaust rattle that I've had forever is now a thing of the past.

George M was great to deal with.. and they did run through a list of things which needed done, and reset the service indicator so the car isn't complaining at all.  Cost a bit more than I was expecting at £660, but here's a list of what was done;

Checked lights, sorted bad connection on rear fog light, fitted windscreen wipers correctly (seems I did them wrong way round!), lube of locks and hinges, check of bulkhead, hood drains, and radiator scoops.  Pollen filter replaced, change oil and filter, replace o/s tensioner washer and seal, clean engine, replace drive belt, replace air filter, clean pulleys, check anti freeze strength, secure exhaust heat shields (yay!), remove wheels - clean centres and hub carriers.  Seems my nipples were heavily seized ?so they had to get heat to be removed and replaced. Rear sensor strut replaced, flush and change brake fluid, check /adjust tyre pressures, reset service light. Car presented for and passed MOT (with a couple of advisories).  Going forward I got some advice that rear brakes need some tlc and have some corrosion on the Milltek exhaust hardware (but that doesn't really need anything done)

So there was a fair amount of labour and the inevitable VAT to make up the total, so all in all I think this isn't too bad.  1st major service I've had with this car, and I don't think I've done too badly.  I can't recommend George Morrison enough - the knowledge and interest they have in Porsches is unbelievable.  They had a fair number of nice toys in the workshop when I was picking mine up - mostly Porsches, but a rather tidy Ferrari 599 too :)

Have a decent run planned through to Edinburgh tomorrow, so will post back on here if I notice anything different about the car (I don't expect to notice much other than no blinking service message, and no rattles from exhaust heat shields)

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Still do most if the work myself if I can
The most important thing to do every year is remove the front bumper and remove all the leaves and debris in front of the Radiators/Bumper. Otherwise they tot and destroy the Condensor/Radiator.
It as a design fault by Porsche - look in the front and you can see the condensor as can Rabbits/ stones and other stuff kicked up from the road
Have actually fitted a grill which should help
If your car is under warranty you may need to remove the grill before taking it in to Porsche BUT I actually believe they can fit them as trey are not genuine shoud not effecy the warranty
I always say ALWAYS GET A QUOTE FROM PORSCHE first.


 

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On 6/19/2018 at 10:05 AM, richardjjs said:

Still do most if the work myself if I can
The most important thing to do every year is remove the front bumper and remove all the leaves and debris in front of the Radiators/Bumper. Otherwise they tot and destroy the Condensor/Radiator.
It as a design fault by Porsche - look in the front and you can see the condensor as can Rabbits/ stones and other stuff kicked up from the road
Have actually fitted a grill which should help
If your car is under warranty you may need to remove the grill before taking it in to Porsche BUT I actually believe they can fit them as trey are not genuine shoud not effecy the warranty
I always say ALWAYS GET A QUOTE FROM PORSCHE first.


 

Yeah, I've got Zunsport grilles on so most of the leaves and rubbish stays out.  I can't remember seeing anything in there tbh but if it was cleaned out, it was cleaned out :)

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For info.  decent trip (Glasgow to Edinburgh and back) the car is running great.  probably placebo effect since my wallet is lighter now, but it does feel great - especially now I don't have the annoying exhaust noise I had previously.

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On 18 June 2018 at 4:45 PM, Hmsrinkers said:

I use the Delphi 150e clone for service reset, Does pretty much everything and can read all codes including stored ones (and works on any car that OBD enabled)

How much for one of these and where from please .

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I got one on eBay some time ago for another car, but it works pretty well on 986 and 987s.  I haven't tried it on a 981.  They seem to have got cheaper, and are about £32 for a "UK stock" seller, and even less from the Far East.  Here is an example: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/332792542096

Ignore the 2018 reference.  The latest cars the software will support is 2014.  It is a hacked version of the Delphi/Autocom/Wurth WOW 2014 software, made to look like it is 2018.

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