Dubdubz Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 Hi.Been lurking for a couple of weeks and signed up. This is a great place of info, sadly not enough cars for sale!Looking to get into a 987.1, 2005-2007 seems to fit my budget.Want a 2.7 ( I think because of the road tax and insurance = 350 extra a year and I want to daily it )Want heated seats in black , manual and a dark colour. Red or yellow or blue not for me. I might be tempted by traditional silver.I have spent hours, pouring over adverts. I mean hours...So I have a couple of questions to the house!Is a higher mile but documented car for e.g. is a 2005 car - spec I want- but 85k miles better than a 2007 - spec I want-70k but the 2007 has a gap since 45k even though it looks well looked after? I spent an 1hr looking over and under it.The 2005 is £1.5k less money but I will do around 10k a year...so in 2 years I'm up to the lower mileage car?There is another 2006 car that has also done 70k but seems to have been mothballed/Sat in stock, I have spoken to dealer and reading between the lines he had it on for too strong money and it's just not sold.So this is my second question, do cars sit if this is the case, should alarms in head apply here? Not been exposed to the foibles of the Stuttgart crest, it normally follows that good cars sell quick, ones not so so good sit around. So one that came into stock a year ago but has not shifted might be cr@p? But if they were asking gen2 money I can see that others would be 'picked' sooner and it'd sit until the trader weakened and dropped his price!Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubaregs Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 Welcome, what is your budget? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubdubz Posted March 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 8 - 14 for the right car... was trying to keep under 85k miles but that seems like a ‘mental thing’ than being logically founded.... has to be black or dark grey, heated leather black , manual, service history loads seem not to have heated seats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 Not easy questions to answer. Boxsters are reliable cars from a German manufacturer. So there should be high demand. But they are expensive 2-seat convertibles. So low demand. An irregular customer base. You may also notice a wide variety of prices. Some are priced to sell, other sellers just see the badge and assume it will sell itself so they add on a few k. Doesn’t always work. Worse, they all vary in spec and the enthusiast should choose what s/he wants like full leather, Bose, xenon lights etc. forget the mileage, one here has just passed 200k; at that age you should ask what suspension parts have been replaced, plus brakes (check inner faces of discs for corrosion) and tyres. These cost the new owner. 14k is high mileage Gen2 territory and I’d go for that. 981 in a 987 body and PDK if you so choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobbie Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 I'd always go for the higher miles well maintained car, the only time I'd go for a lower miles car is if I was thinking of keeping it a short time and want an easy sale. Many people think these are delicate sports cars like a Ferrari that can't handle mileage, whereas they are well built and can handle over 150k if looks after with regular oil changes. Mine's on 146k and engine is fine. Look for a car with plenty of recent evidence of maintenance so you are not playing catchup which can be expensive, especially if you don't DIY. If you're keeping it a few years, don't be afraid of cars over 100k. The ones to avoid are the ones with lower mileage that have missed services 'because it's only done 2k this year'. The dirty oil that results from short journeys is probably the main cause of early failures in these engines. Being a soft top, these cars can sit at dealers for long periods over winter, especially nice cars that are priced accordingly. The dealers know that come spring it will shift when the sun comes out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubdubz Posted March 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 Thanks both for taking the time to post. theremis a car in Cheshire, but my spidey sense is satin leave it. 70k but servicing and history whilst almost there doesn’t quite add up. And the last few services have been with A.C.E Porsche specialist with a stamp that I can’t quite make out the number, google and companies house no hits... that and the fact it has been ‘in stock’ for awhile its on autotrader for 10250 I won’t post the actual link but it should be easy to find. Think I’ll save myself the trip and look at the 85 k example which is 60 miles closer! thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanatoid Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 I got mine from 400 miles away, don't limit to local, what I hadn't had experience of, and would have wanted if I had known, was heated seats which mine doesn't have 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobbie Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, Dubdubz said: Thanks both for taking the time to post. theremis a car in Cheshire, but my spidey sense is satin leave it. 70k but servicing and history whilst almost there doesn’t quite add up. And the last few services have been with A.C.E Porsche specialist with a stamp that I can’t quite make out the number, google and companies house no hits... that and the fact it has been ‘in stock’ for awhile its on autotrader for 10250 I won’t post the actual link but it should be easy to find. Think I’ll save myself the trip and look at the 85 k example which is 60 miles closer! thanks again Looks like a wrong un, MOT expired last April and lots of mentions of ball joints in the MOT history would make me wonder about unrecorded crash damage at the front. Can't see any history after 45k and I'd question the existence of ACE Porsche, no hits on Google. Easy enough to buy a stamp on eBay unless their are receipts for the services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 Yup, no such thing as too far for the right car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubdubz Posted March 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 Thanks guys, thanatoid the top of my list was the Cheshire one that if I’m honest I wanted to be right, the more local to me is the higher miles one. Nobbie theres another page with the same ace Porsche... feeling like a stitch up so I’ll pass on that, I think. there is a local car to me about 20 miles away that was in good nick but no service history since 45k in 2015 now on 69k, mots back up the miles but again just doesn’t feel ‘right’ is Tiptronic that wheezy? I’ve not been considering one as Porsche Gb guide says a manual is the best to get experience thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobbie Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Dubdubz said: Thanks guys, thanatoid the top of my list was the Cheshire one that if I’m honest I wanted to be right, the more local to me is the higher miles one. Nobbie theres another page with the same ace Porsche... feeling like a stitch up so I’ll pass on that, I think. there is a local car to me about 20 miles away that was in good nick but no service history since 45k in 2015 now on 69k, mots back up the miles but again just doesn’t feel ‘right’ is Tiptronic that wheezy? I’ve not been considering one as Porsche Gb guide says a manual is the best to get experience thx I like the tip, I wasn't looking for one, but in manual mode it is good fun especially if you fit paddles. Slight delay in the changes, but I don't find that much of an issue, although I'm not used to driving the PDK/DSG dual clutch boxes which are lightening fast. If you are doing a lot of miles around town or in traffic, it might be worth considering the tip as the clutches can get quite heavy as they age from what I've read on here and at the mileage you are looking at they will be right in the zone for a clutch change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubdubz Posted March 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 Didn’t realise you could fit paddles after the event, I’m guessing there’s a thread on here noob question number 7 is autotrader a good place or is there better? i was not sure if the additional miles say 20 k would see detrimental wear on cabin stuff... lame maths but 20k @ average of 50mph = 400hours additional in the cockpit, which is only 16 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobbie Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 19 minutes ago, Dubdubz said: Didn’t realise you could fit paddles after the event, I’m guessing there’s a thread on here noob question number 7 is autotrader a good place or is there better? i was not sure if the additional miles say 20 k would see detrimental wear on cabin stuff... lame maths but 20k @ average of 50mph = 400hours additional in the cockpit, which is only 16 days A couple of us have documented fitting the Mercedes paddles (£40-£80) and this company will exchange your steering wheel for £399. http://www.edition9.co.uk/ Auto trader gives the widest market, but Pistonheads gets a lot of enthusiasts cars and EBay is a mixed bag. Shame you weren't looking a month ago, a really nice one got traded in for £9k after not selling on here. Keep an eye out though, a few are looking to upgrade to the 981. The cabins last very well in my experience, I tried a 80k 987.2 and it was like new, my 146k cabin is in great shape. So much depends on who owned it and how they treated it. Big difference in wear between a nice suit and a pair of dirty jeans with rivets. Little wear just sat on the motorway, but lots if you're nipping around town all week doing errands here and there getting in and out rubbing against the bolsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubdubz Posted March 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 I was looking but not seriously looking... my scirocco is tip with paddles and that works when I want to be a kid! its a slippery slope as I seem to just keep edging the slider up, my last 10 minutes have been looking from 16k and down🤣 around the 10 ish mark feels right, I’d like to ‘personalise’ with lobster claws, and modern after market head unit and the carnewal exhaust Oh, then I started expanding to a 3.4 and tiptronic... maybe 2.7 tip with paddles might work? Man this confusing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobbie Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 Same journey I took, almost bought a 2011 987.2, but then realised that it's only for hooning around in at weekends and bought my 2.5 Tip off the forum as it had been so well looked after. I think a late 987.1 is a good choice for a daily driver as you get a lot for your money around 10k. Some pay the big premium to get to the 987.2 because of the better reliabilty record of the engine, but there's little risk on the 987 from late 2005 onwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubdubz Posted March 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 Glad I’m not alone...😀 im now getting impatient which I know is bad...just seen tidy gen2 on pistonhead but it’s 14+k and doesn’t leave me any room for any bits that break, so I think I need to stay strong! i used to own a 90’s gen1 mx5 that was so much fun, I want to try and recreate that. I always felt it was underpowered but lovely to fling around with the roof down. So owning a car that’s 12+ Yes old is ok for me and I’m very good with mechanical stuff, not sure I’d attempt an engine swap, but I could probably do it! Couple this with the fact I prefer the 2005 shape I’m sold, I guess the q now is to pay big money for a genuine low mileage...seen some 2006 on for 13.5, but low miles... i wish I liked red, Cos the one on here looks a great car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubaregs Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 Convince yourself you are colour blind.😉 Seriously though, it you restrict yourself to certain colours it does reduce your options and you are more likely to compromise on something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubdubz Posted March 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 Sound advise. Again thank you 🙏 sorry to keep this going...2.7 v 3.2. Am I being a spoon? I could cope with RFL increase...again my perhaps illogical maths is I normally own a car for minimum 3 years = 3 x £200 rfl difference = head unit 🤪😀🤪 it is an oddly priced vehicle, some on for super strong cash, some on sub 986 money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleStar Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 24 minutes ago, Dubdubz said: Glad I’m not alone...😀 im now getting impatient which I know is bad...just seen tidy gen2 on pistonhead but it’s 14+k and doesn’t leave me any room for any bits that break, so I think I need to stay strong! i used to own a 90’s gen1 mx5 that was so much fun, I want to try and recreate that. I always felt it was underpowered but lovely to fling around with the roof down. So owning a car that’s 12+ Yes old is ok for me and I’m very good with mechanical stuff, not sure I’d attempt an engine swap, but I could probably do it! Couple this with the fact I prefer the 2005 shape I’m sold, I guess the q now is to pay big money for a genuine low mileage...seen some 2006 on for 13.5, but low miles... i wish I liked red, Cos the one on here looks a great car! You can always wrap what you buy if the colour offends... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubdubz Posted March 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 1 minute ago, EagleStar said: You can always wrap what you buy if the colour offends... Sadly the one thing I’m kind of set on is heated seats... probably.... (the Mazda didn’t and that had its roof down if it wasn’t raining all year round) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubaregs Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 Surely you can retrofit heated seats if they're that important? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red rocket Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, Dubdubz said: Sadly the one thing I’m kind of set on is heated seats... probably.... (the Mazda didn’t and that had its roof down if it wasn’t raining all year round) I originally wanted heated seats but really haven't missed them. The Boxster heater is fantastic. I do drives all year round including roof down in winter with the South West BoXa crew and with the heater turned up to 27/28 it's toasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubdubz Posted March 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 This is both very very helpful and also making it more confusing. but I can perhaps revisit the cars that are not dark coloured ie silver 😂 and look at cars that do not have the 2 extra switches! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headless Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Dubdubz said: Didn’t realise you could fit paddles after the event, I’m guessing there’s a thread on here noob question number 7 is autotrader a good place or is there better? i was not sure if the additional miles say 20 k would see detrimental wear on cabin stuff... lame maths but 20k @ average of 50mph = 400hours additional in the cockpit, which is only 16 days I did it to mine, cost me £55 for a Merc steering wheel with the paddles on, easy to do, I'm no expert, 3 wires to slice into, I have a 2006 3.2 tip, had it a year and a half now and paid £12k, changes are really quick on mine, but had tranny oil changed at 60,000 as it should be, that's all I've had to do to it since having it, all else were things I wanted to do, like the exhaust hack and alloys refurbed and changed colour.. Here's a pic of the paddles... and the car... Take your time to get what you want, I really would'nt be too botherd about the heated seats, that will expand the amount you can go to see, oh and don't bother too much with Bose either, cos you'll not be using it much so you can listen to that engine screaming behind you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubdubz Posted March 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 1 minute ago, headless said: I did it to mine, cost me £55 for a Merc steering wheel with the paddles on, easy to do, I'm no expert, 3 wires to slice into, I have a 2006 3.2 tip, had it a year and a half now and paid £12k, changes are really quick on mine, but had tranny oil changed at 60,000 as it should be, that's all I've had to do to it since having it, all else were things I wanted to do, like the exhaust hack and alloys refurbed and changed colour.. Here's a pic of the paddles... and the car... Take your time to get what you want, I really would'nt be too botherd about the heated seats, that will expand the amount you can go to see, oh and don't bother too much with Bose either, cos you'll not be using it much so you can listen to that engine screaming behind you!! Thanks for that...😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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