zcacogp Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 Guys, Odd question this. I met a guy the other day who claimed to have a 4x4 986 Boxster. I saw it, but didn't look in detail; it looked from the outside like a perfectly ordinary 986. Stupidly I didn't note down the registration number so can't check the details. His story was that Audi made some development cars with a 4x4 system in it and this was one of them. I was sceptical but wasn't going to disagree with him to his face. FWIW he seemed to have a good story about a lot of things but that's by the by. Hence this post. Did Porsche ever make 4x4 986's or was I having my leg pulled (as I slightly suspect)? If so then does anyone have any more details? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 Never heard of it in 12 years here. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist, but makes it less likely. How would you get a propshaft from the rear to the front? New 4x4 much easier, just put electric motors at the front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike597 Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 nah, can't see that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninesomething Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 Can't help but think if this were true it would be all over the net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul P Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 Would it have been Audi back then ? And don't test mules have to be crushed rather than making their way into the market. If there was going to be a 986 flavour then wouldn't it have been based on the 996 C4 - and the engine is in a different place and is a different way round...... I don't think it's a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 Should have told him he’s a month early for those stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brillomaster Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 a 4x4 boxster, yeah right... almost as silly as renault building a mid engined, rear wheel drive clio 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 Or a French car that runs entirely on its electrics… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXY Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, brillomaster said: a 4x4 boxster, yeah right... almost as silly as renault building a mid engined, rear wheel drive clio 🤣 Yeah cause that will never happen,,,,,hold on,,,,,, https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2004-renault-clio-v6-phase-2-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpg123 Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 My Boxster has a jet engine that you can strap on to the boot and makes it so fast it's invisible. I've never used it or seen it but that's what the seller told me. But then he might have been pulling my leg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 4 hours ago, Menoporsche said: Or a French car that runs entirely on its electrics… Or Italian 😱 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 Bit of a problem getting a prop shaft from the transmission to the front axle without raising the engine which would make the C of G horribly high and no space to do an off set shaft as the flat 6 engine is so wide. Also very little around the front subframe for driveshafts without major structural changes. It would essentially be a completely different car. There aren't many four wheel drive mid-engine cars. R8, some versions of Lambos, can anyone think of any more? Save it for 1st April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the baron Posted March 4, 2022 Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 What he says ^^^ ive got a 996 C4 and it’s got a larger tunnel and the boot space is compromised, it might be doable but never heard even a whisper of such a car, so am sceptical, would love to be proved wrong though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archemist Posted March 4, 2022 Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 You could do it by fitting a Ferrari FF drivetrain, backwards, after removing 6 cylinders, cutting and shutting the in the frunk of a 911 C4. Nothing to it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daboy3000 Posted March 4, 2022 Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted March 4, 2022 Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 3 hours ago, archemist said: You could do it by fitting a Ferrari FF drivetrain, backwards, after removing 6 cylinders, cutting and shutting the in the frunk of a 911 C4. Nothing to it. By Jove I think you could be onto something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonogt6 Posted March 4, 2022 Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 3 hours ago, archemist said: You could do it by fitting a Ferrari FF drivetrain, backwards, after removing 6 cylinders, cutting and shutting the in the frunk of a 911 C4. Nothing to it. That's exactly how I did it. Took me a couple of hours but an easy diy 😉. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted March 4, 2022 Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 52 minutes ago, Daboy3000 said: ?? Just because it is a rally car on gravel doesn't mean it is 4 wheel drive... In fact if you look closely there is a slight blur on the rear wheels but not the front indicating they are spinning faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddie Posted March 4, 2022 Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 @Daboy3000 I know that Rally Boxster driven by Ian Jemmison of York, it is not 4 wheel drive , it is deffo 2 wheel drive but has a 911 engine in it. Ian Jemmison runs an excellent alloy wheel repair/refurbishment company in Bishopthorpe on outside of York. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beicmynydd Posted March 4, 2022 Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 Fake news everywhare these days. Would be a massive job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXY Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 11 hours ago, ½cwt said: Just because it is a rally car on gravel doesn't mean it is 4 wheel drive... In fact if you look closely there is a slight blur on the rear wheels but not the front indicating they are spinning faster. Just because ONE wheel is spinning doesn't mean it isn't 4WD. I have Marshalled on rallies and can assure you it is entirely possible to have both wheels on one side of the car or indeed only one wheel spinning faster (the mere process of going round corners/bends will necessitate wheels turning at different rates). It simply comes down to where the grip is, or isn't as the case may be. I think you mean 'rear wheel' singular not plural i.e. you can only see one. As to whether this condition in this instance/picture is down to only the rear WHEELS of the car being driven I could venture an opinion but it would be based on experience not fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araf Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 1 hour ago, EXY said: As to whether this condition in this instance/picture is down to only the rear WHEELS of the car being driven I could venture an opinion but it would be based on experience not fact. As above from Toddie in this instance. A quick Google gives the details of the car and the class it's entered in - B12 (over 2 litre, 2 wheel drive) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
map Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 13 hours ago, Toddie said: @Daboy3000 I know that Rally Boxster driven by Ian Jemmison of York, it is not 4 wheel drive , it is deffo 2 wheel drive but has a 911 engine in it. Ian Jemmison runs an excellent alloy wheel repair/refurbishment company in Bishopthorpe on outside of York. It’s been campaigned for a good while now - hopefully that’s a recent photo and it’s still going strong. There was a really good write up on it ages ago - it was also part of the motivation towards the tweaks to my own car. Albeit a less focused build than Ian Jemmison’s. @Toddie - might give them a call about some we have some wheels that need refurbing. They’re relatively close to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, EXY said: Just because ONE wheel is spinning doesn't mean it isn't 4WD. I have Marshalled on rallies and can assure you it is entirely possible to have both wheels on one side of the car or indeed only one wheel spinning faster (the mere process of going round corners/bends will necessitate wheels turning at different rates). It simply comes down to where the grip is, or isn't as the case may be. I think you mean 'rear wheel' singular not plural i.e. you can only see one. As to whether this condition in this instance/picture is down to only the rear WHEELS of the car being driven I could venture an opinion but it would be based on experience not fact. 10 years of rallying in 2 and 4 drive cars. 4 wheel drive usually will have limited diff at the rear that is more pre loaded than the front and depending on the centre diff as well it is quite possible for rears to spin slightly faster (I typed 'on' not 'one' for some reason) from fronts but not a lot, otherwise the benefit of 4WD would just be a weight penalty. On a corner exit like the picture slip in all 4 is most likely, well at least was in our B13 (over 2 litre 4 WD) Sapphire and Escort cossies and even GpN Impreza. Also gravel Reyes give more grip in the initial slip condition than in a no slip condition. Edited March 5, 2022 by ½cwt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downsey Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 Was it 1st April when he was telling you this nonsense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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