dpg123 Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 Hi guys, So, thinking of a 981 and looking at a GTS or an S. I've seen an amazing GTS on for £52k (2015, 28k miles) which is super spec'd. I've also seen a nice S (2015, 44k miles for £38k) Given the large difference in price, I'm trying to work out what would be the better buy over 4-5 years. Am I likely to lose more on the GTS than the S over that period or would a GTS hold it's value enough to justify the difference? Thoughts please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygo Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 I went from an early S to a 2016 GTS in July. Obviously the GTS cost a lot more, but long term I'm hoping the GTS will suffer less from depreciation as well as being a nicer place to be in the meantime. At the end of the day, it's a guessing game. I paid £53K for my GTS with 25,000 miles from an OPC, with 2 years warranty and nicely loaded. I think for the money you are paying, a 2016 car should be doable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 I would think less of the depreciation and more of how much you’re going to drive it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSMarky Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 Do you want the extras the GTS offers? I've had my BGTS now for >5 years and I'm very glad I bought it when I did. Would I be feeling any different had I bought an S - don't know is the honest answer. For me the GTS sparkles make the car what it is. Do some man maths by all means, but you'll know if you really want it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
718as Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 GTS will have less depreciation, doubt they will fall under £40k, unless high miles. S prices have already dropped and will do further next year as the 718's fall further. (Just do a VRM check on some on sale from AT on WBAC, prices have fallen drastically) In general GTS and Spyder models will always command good returns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just on the maths, 10% off the GTS is slightly less cash amount as 15% off the S, if at 15% and 20%, then the S loses fractionally less cash. Depends how much more % you think a S might go down than an GTS, plus also the amount of extra cash you tie up in GTS in the first place... Your money, your enjoyment, your call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobbie Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 We are now in an era where you can get 5% on a five year savings account, so the GTS would have to depreciate almost £4K less than the S if you have the cash lying around to buy it. If you’re borrowing then it will be more. From a purely cash POV I don’t think the less depreciation logic stacks up in general, although in this case it may as you mention that the GTS is fully loaded and if you keep the miles low it could be much more desirable than a fairly average S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurassicBGTS Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 Is the GTS the RPM car? If so isn't that a forum members car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuno1 Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 The GTS is the more desirable model and will hold value better IF you buy well. The s if well specced will hold value well but again you need to buy well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBD914 v2 Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 Having owned both, I would go GTS everytime - and in fact have just done so for the third time! You can get a 2015 GTS for around £45k if you look hard enough! I also think the GTS will hold its price better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBD914 v2 Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 8 hours ago, dpg123 said: Hi guys, So, thinking of a 981 and looking at a GTS or an S. I've seen an amazing GTS on for £52k (2015, 28k miles) which is super spec'd. I've also seen a nice S (2015, 44k miles for £38k) Given the large difference in price, I'm trying to work out what would be the better buy over 4-5 years. Am I likely to lose more on the GTS than the S over that period or would a GTS hold it's value enough to justify the difference? Thoughts please! If it is the RPM car, it has no climate control, and I'm not sure about the brown leather steering wheel and dash. I prefer an alcantara interior, it really elevates the GTS interior But if you like it - then go for it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenman Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 I think that overall cost of ownership will be similar. GTS is likely to maintain its price advantage so ultimately if you can afford the extra and buy well you won’t lose much more than buying a cheaper S. if you have better things to do with that extra £10-£15k then the S is still a brilliant car without that cherry on top. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurassicBGTS Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 OP, you need firstly to decide if you want the Alcantara trim. If you do then the GTS is your only option. I have the Alcantara in my Macan GTS and love it, but prefer leather in the Boxster. If you, like me, prefer the leather in a Boxster then I would look to finding a full specced S and save the money. I wouldn't buy a GTS that has been specced to look like an S with leather and without the GTS wheels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianJ Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 Having owned an PDK S for about 8 years I went out looking for a PDK GTS about this time last year. I was surprised and disappointed that so many GTSs were poorly specified. Most didn’t have dual zone climate, electrically folding mirrors, etc and none I could find had reversing camera (vital for where I live). A 2016 GTS was typically £8-10k more than a similarly spec’d S of similar miles, condition and age. After a few GTS test drives over representative roads I couldn’t detect much difference compared to my S. After several months of looking I found a stonking lowish mileage 2016 S with everything I wanted and more (incl PASM, PSE, PDLS, fancy stitching etc) being sold with 2.5 years of Porsche warranty by an OPC for £10k less than a privately-owned GTS with more miles and much less warranty which appeared shortly afterwards. I couldn’t justify a GTS with that differential and have never regretted choosing this particular S. But everyone is different! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz05 Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 No real difference in depreciation, prices for both cars are linked with one another, buy the car you prefer. I think you would be brave to pay 50k plus for a GTS imho but if they fall the S will do the same so what does it matter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpg123 Posted November 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 17 hours ago, RBD914 v2 said: If it is the RPM car, it has no climate control, and I'm not sure about the brown leather steering wheel and dash. I prefer an alcantara interior, it really elevates the GTS interior But if you like it - then go for it! It is indeed that car. I like alcantara or leather. I actually really like the interior of that particular car. Wheel wise, I'd probably prefer the GTS wheels but the ones on it are also nice. Perhaps do a swap at a later date. Is climate control an essential? I can't believe cars at this level are even sold without! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Daniel Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 18 hours ago, RBD914 v2 said: If it is the RPM car, it has no climate control, and I'm not sure about the brown leather steering wheel and dash. I prefer an alcantara interior, it really elevates the GTS interior But if you like it - then go for it! I think its agate grey dash with pebble seats. Very nice combo but agree its not suited to the GTS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurassicBGTS Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 57 minutes ago, dpg123 said: It is indeed that car. I like alcantara or leather. I actually really like the interior of that particular car. Wheel wise, I'd probably prefer the GTS wheels but the ones on it are also nice. Perhaps do a swap at a later date. Is climate control an essential? I can't believe cars at this level are even sold without! Then this is a forum members car, which is always good. If you search the for sale section you will see it. Also a lot of information on this forum about everything he has done to it and you could PM him and chat about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Daniel Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, dpg123 said: Wheel wise, I'd probably prefer the GTS wheels but the ones on it are also nice. Is there a GTS wheel? Mine has the sports techno's and the RPM car has the Turbo style wheels. Also a bigger front brake kit added just in case you were thinking of getting a Porsche warranty on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBD914 v2 Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 46 minutes ago, dpg123 said: It is indeed that car. I like alcantara or leather. I actually really like the interior of that particular car. Wheel wise, I'd probably prefer the GTS wheels but the ones on it are also nice. Perhaps do a swap at a later date. Is climate control an essential? I can't believe cars at this level are even sold without! Which GTS wheels do you mean? I prefer the turbo wheels on that agate GTS, so if you buy it and wish to do a wheel swop, please let me know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpg123 Posted November 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 51 minutes ago, JurassicGTS said: Then this is a forum members car, which is always good. If you search the for sale section you will see it. Also a lot of information on this forum about everything he has done to it and you could PM him and chat about it. Oh, amazing!! I've PM'd them...thanks!! The forum delivers once again!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Daniel Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 6 hours ago, RBD914 v2 said: I prefer the turbo wheels on that agate GTS, so if you buy it and wish to do a wheel swop, please let me know! Are you after making another 4 clocks Rob😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBD914 v2 Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Tony Daniel said: Are you after making another 4 clocks Rob😁 😜😜😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSMarky Posted November 3, 2022 Report Share Posted November 3, 2022 RPM Technik have some nice cars! For me lack of the GTS interior in the BGTS is a shame as otherwise a really nice car. I do like the 6 pots too & quite what the header upgrade is I've no idea, but if it does actually sound better (louder) then why not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurassicBGTS Posted November 3, 2022 Report Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, GTSMarky said: RPM Technik have some nice cars! For me lack of the GTS interior in the BGTS is a shame as otherwise a really nice car. I do like the 6 pots too & quite what the header upgrade is I've no idea, but if it does actually sound better (louder) then why not. As long as you don't want to put a Porsche warranty on it though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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