Graham W Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 I keep seeing comments around the web about the 718 "turbo lag". I have a newish 718 s which has the variable vanes on the turbo and for the life of me I can't detect any lag. What am I missing or is this another of those urban myths from those with the flat six engines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXY Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 If they can't find a fault they just make something up. They HAVE to write something after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm E Box Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 Notice no lag on my 718 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toeside Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 Its an UM those cars are quicker than a a quick thing from planet Fast! The 6 sounds and drives great but from a handling and suspension point of view the 718 is quicker and sharper............. that coming from a 981S owner. I still love the Black Pearl though.? I enjoyed the run out today and so did the 'Pearl' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart21UK Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 IMO it accelerates in exactly the same manner as a 981S, maybe at a lower rpm actually thinking about it Not sure I'd agree with it being sharper than a 981, nor suspension being better but that's just my opnion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee-money Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 I hadn't experienced it either until I went on a eurohoon, I was driving these 2nd gear uphill switch back roads in Switzerland. I had it in sports mode first and there was definitely lag before the turbo would spool up, sports plus was much better but I still found a very small lag. My cars is Pdk if that makes any difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart21UK Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Gee-money said: I hadn't experienced it either until I went on a eurohoon, I was driving these 2nd gear uphill switch back roads in Switzerland. I had it in sports mode first and there was definitely lag before the turbo would spool up, sports plus was much better but I still found a very small lag. My cars is Pdk if that makes any difference. Well I definitely think the delivery of revs is similar to the 981 which gets going at 4000 rpm so maybe that is the 718 exhibiting a similar characteristic? Maybe they designed it to give a similar driver feeling? That said its weird to have felt it in 2nd gear...more likely in 3rd or 4th...maybe the uphill + low speed + low revs ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubaregs Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 If in normal mode I definitely have a bit of lag, but nothing noticeable in sport. On the motorway I tend to leave it on normal, anywhere else it's in sport mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenman Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 I guess it depends what you are used to driving, but there is no doubt that the 718 does have turbo lag, and it can be measured and I believe has been in at least one motoring Chanel. Even the new 911 has significant measurable lag (though is somewhat better than the 718 in this respect). Having said the above you can easily mitigate this with your driving style, and once the turbos are spooled up the lag is minimal and probably only a problem to those trying to adjust the handling on the throttle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patt Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 I thought it was shocking for lag unless you pressed the sports button - then it drove like a NA car. Turbo lag is effectively the time taken to fill the intercoolers and all pipework with air to then start the pressure bit working via the turbo. Porsche do a quite trick 'anti-lag' system with the button pressed, it's called Porsche Dynamic Boost Control. Basically when off the throttle it wont fully close the throttle body, but does cut the fuel. Thus it fills up the engine and pipes with air, removing a lot of the "lag" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart21UK Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 ah maybe that accounts for my experience as I would have had Sport mode on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patt Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 I only learnt about this system a couple of weeks ago, like you it totally explained the dramatic difference between normal and sports or sports plus modes. I had to remember to rotate the knob every time I started the car, then turn off the start stop - then begin my journey. (2ltr 718) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm E Box Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 The stop start turns itself off in sports mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patt Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 YAY progress ! I've not driven a 718 since January, so forgive my memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubaregs Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 There is a huge difference from normal mode to sport, why I'm always in sport unless on the motorway. Even then I'll pop it into sport for a lane change/overtake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham W Posted September 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 Interesting replies especially from those listing 981/s drives? The 718 has two different turbos fitted to each model with the "s" getting a "variable Vanes" type turbo as fitted to the newer 911 models which to my mind seems to eliminate (that is I can't detect a lag) any lack of throttle response and I guess this coupled to a larger engine size helps? Perhaps other "s" owners could comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenman Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 5 hours ago, Graham W said: Interesting replies especially from those listing 981/s drives? The 718 has two different turbos fitted to each model with the "s" getting a "variable Vanes" type turbo as fitted to the newer 911 models which to my mind seems to eliminate (that is I can't detect a lag) any lack of throttle response and I guess this coupled to a larger engine size helps? Perhaps other "s" owners could comment? The variable vains should help, giving it less inertia when at low revs to spin up quick but still allowing for large air movement. It’s almost like having a twin turbo with a smaller and larger turbo. However even in this case lag is by no means eliminated. e.g see this motor trend review of the 991.2 watch the section from 5-8 mins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart21UK Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 7 hours ago, Patt said: YAY progress ! I've not driven a 718 since January, so forgive my memory. does the same on the 981 Patt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toplad Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 No further questions regarding turbo lag your honor..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patt Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 10 hours ago, Stuart21UK said: does the same on the 981 Patt Mine as been adjusted to "remember last setting" so is no longer an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patt Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 16 hours ago, Graham W said: Interesting replies especially from those listing 981/s drives? The 718 has two different turbos fitted to each model with the "s" getting a "variable Vanes" type turbo as fitted to the newer 911 models which to my mind seems to eliminate (that is I can't detect a lag) any lack of throttle response and I guess this coupled to a larger engine size helps? Perhaps other "s" owners could comment? Most of us get a 718 when our cars go back in for warranty work etc. In my case I had one for 5 weeks, so plenty of time to get to know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIkeyv60 Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 I really havent noticed it if any . Quick overtakes are fine and no delay . If im planning an overtake you can blip the accelerator and it will hold the revs ready for when you overtake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm E Box Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 Or press the middle button of the Sport Chrono and it puts the car in "overtake" mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Days Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 I haven't noticed any lag on my S. In fact, it's so torquey, that there is rarely a requirement to change gear (mine's a manual); just floor it and you're away at warp speed (up to the legal limit, obviously). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIkeyv60 Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 11 hours ago, Malcolm E Box said: Or press the middle button of the Sport Chrono and it puts the car in "overtake" mode. Doesnt that just spool the turbo to full boost . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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