BTM520 Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Hello all. I am seriously considering buying this little car after debating saving up a bit more and looking between a 987 boxster or cayman...for now though this will be a comfortable price point and strikes me as such an interesting little car. It's basically sat about for 10 years covering a few hundred miles. It's got one working key...not bad service history up til 2009, missing just one year and one not done by porsche/specialist. Apparently brakes, clutch etc are ok. But do I have tunnel vision for this car or should a low mileage near un-used car just be walked away from? I've had a look at the guides on here but anything else I should think of? It's just been MOT'd too. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PORSCHE-BOXSTER-S-3-2-986-MANUAL-VERY-LOW-MILEAGE/372749642113?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3Dbc9f290278084d11aebbe8f58c1597fb%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D372749642113%26itm%3D372749642113%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2481888&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A68bf10a6-cb43-11e9-a3cf-74dbd180141f|parentrq%3Ae35cb3ec16c0ac3c1d532581ffd74fcd|iid%3A1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red rocket Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 On the plus side fresh mot and service but I would be worried about any car that's sat around undriven for so long. These cars (like most) really need to be given a regular run out. Others can probably flesh out the reasons for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GmanB Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 With low mile cars, they can initially be attractive, but it's important to keep up services annually, if not more frequently, regardless of it not doing miles, full history on this car would be 19 stamps. As a comparison I bought my 2003 S last May with 58k on the clock and had 16 service stamps. If it really has sat there for 10 years with the same oil, personally I would avoid it. In my experience, cars just rot and seize if they're not used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonttt Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 If the story stacks up (eg check no MOT history last few years) and it has a clean MOT then it could be a good buy. I’m not up to speed on prices for these cars but assume the statement that it is priced cheap due to the lack of service history whilst stored then the fact it has been stored for a long time would not put me off. You just have to go into a potential sale with a slightly different mindset. It also has about the right mileage for this type of buy, eg if it had very very low mileage eg <10k then it would be priced high BUT many “semi” consumables usually related to mileage may need replacement simply due to age perishment. However any car >50k miles will start to see some replacement being required (especially suspension related) and so you are not paying a premium for an ultra low mileage that still needs money spending in it. If the car has a genuine clean MOT pass, is to be serviced and stamped, has evidence of storage (eg not MOT history) and is cheap, then it could be a great buy 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 I wouldn’t. All those rubber bushes etc needing replacement, age of tyres?, and recently we saw two big ends go. Up to you, I’d prefer a more loved example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonewolfgjp Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Something doesn’t seem right to me, I can’t decide what. The interior looks a bit tired for 50k and I wouldn’t like a car that has been sat around that long. Having owned a 986s I would try and go for the facelift 3.2. The updated bumpers, hood etc make a big difference. My pre facelift was a great car but I spent a fortune updating it 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulQ Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 On the face of it looks like reasonable value for a 50k car. The drivers seat and steering wheel don't look great for the stated mileage though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonewolfgjp Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 ^^^This^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXY Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 I would be more concerned he thinks a Boxster is 'LITTLE' 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobbie Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 I'd avoid for the reasons stated above, but also how did the brake pipes become excessively corroded enough to fail an MOT when it was dry stored🤔 I'd expect a car that's sat unused for 9 years to have a string of faults once you start using it again. Seals will have dried out, brake calipers and shocks may have corrosion on moving parts ready to damage seals when used again. The seat on my car looks better than that and mine's on 148k🤔 It might be fine, but I'd not pay a premium for the low mileage as this is usually a sign of potentially low maintenance requirements, but not in this case. Date tested2 August 2016 FAIL Mileage50,456 miles MOT test number8671 1513 2804 Test location View test location Reason(s) for failure Nearside Front Brake pipe excessively corroded (3.6.B.2c) Offside Front Brake pipe excessively corroded (3.6.B.2c) Offside Rear Brake pipe excessively corroded (3.6.B.2c) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTM520 Posted August 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Wow thank you all for everyone's responses. I also feel the car's interior looks a little worn for the mileage but low mileage cars will have people hopping in and out all the time. The MOT history stacks up in terms of the length of time it's been stored. I will ponder it. I do like the idea of an early S because they were the first ever, I will ponder taking a chance on it and just know that I'm going to need to factor in the possibility of suspension components, clutch, oil pump etc. Likewise I can't see me losing much money on buying the metal of the car, which is attractive with it being low mileage. I'd probably only do 2-3k in it a year myself, perhaps less. Although i'd maybe use it more often to try and keep it getting used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTM520 Posted August 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Liking this but whilst one owner and has the lovely turbo alloys (from factory it says) i'm still umm-ing about the price to myself ...much shorter link this time! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/392393822346 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTM520 Posted August 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just seen recent MOT History....oil leak...RMS probably and it's 3 owners, not the one. Nothing's going to be perfect mind you...and it's only 20 miles away not 250 like the 50k mile one. Hmm.. 9 minutes ago, BTM520 said: Liking this but whilst one owner and has the lovely turbo alloys (from factory it says) i'm still umm-ing about the price to myself ...much shorter link this time! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/392393822346 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GmanB Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 44 minutes ago, BTM520 said: Liking this but whilst one owner and has the lovely turbo alloys (from factory it says) i'm still umm-ing about the price to myself ...much shorter link this time! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/392393822346 That's way too much money for the mileage it's done, even for a face lift and that's not one. Apart from the wheels, there's barely anything on the spec. "Extensive options" that doesn't have heated seats, xenons, cruise control or bose, is not extensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GmanB Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 "The interior is exceptional" - yet no pictures of it. Honestly, I'd avoid that ad out of stupidity of the owner. Apologies, one side on picture with no floor mats, but you can't see the drivers seat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 13 minutes ago, GmanB said: That's way too much money for the mileage it's done, even for a face lift and that's not one. Apart from the wheels, there's barely anything on the spec. "Extensive options" that doesn't have heated seats, xenons, cruise control or bose, is not extensive. For something pretty similar last year, 2000 S with 91k miles in silver, only 17" alloys and standard stereo i.e. no door speakers but with OBC and xenons £4750. OK, paint damage on front bumper, shot a/c condensers and duff reversing light switch and 4 perished CV boots, but recent clutch (with RMS) and brakes. Can't see £2.5k difference between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edc Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Have you looked at any of the cars for sale on here? Mavisd one looks good for the cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTM520 Posted August 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, edc said: Have you looked at any of the cars for sale on here? Mavisd one looks good for the cash. Seen that on eBay recently. Nice car but not my favourite interior though. It might sell quicker if the decals were removed. I'm still drawn to the early 50k mile one! I know I shouldn't be, not great spec but is nice and original. Seller will only get it serviced at his local garage. I'm not keen so to make the service history look a bit stronger I might see if I can get the price down a bit l, not get him to do the service and i'll get it done by Kenny Dunn or Brian Miller motors, Edinburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryg Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 21 minutes ago, BTM520 said: Seen that on eBay recently. Nice car but not my favourite interior though. It might sell quicker if the decals were removed. I'm still drawn to the early 50k mile one! I know I shouldn't be, not great spec but is nice and original. Seller will only get it serviced at his local garage. I'm not keen so to make the service history look a bit stronger I might see if I can get the price down a bit l, not get him to do the service and i'll get it done by Kenny Dunn or Brian Miller motors, Edinburgh. I wouldn't want to be the one to take that car on after such a long lay up either for all the reasons outlined above, paying a premium for the privilege, err no. If you do at least get it checked out BEFORE buying by a Porsche specialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GmanB Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Service at a local garage is totally fine as long as they use good oil, any monkey can service a car, even myself. It's not like Porsche get a cloth inside the sump or anything. The best way to do this is buy your own oil and get a local to do it if you can't do it yourself, that way the history looks as good as any. Get the car checked over by a Porsche specialist if you are really interested, it should identify any visual problems you can't see. Well worth a couple of hundred pounds, if it's a crappy one. Personally, I'd steer clear with pistons doing nothing for 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTM520 Posted September 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 This one looks more like it...IMS, clutch done etc. Maybe not my favourite interior mind you but I could compromise! Anyone know this car? https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1115107 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edc Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 Seems like a nice enough car for a. Wet reasonable price. The seller is saying all the right things but it looks they have barely owned it a few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southy Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 Prices seem a little higher than last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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