Buzzfox Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Greenman said: Good news, so did he give you specific instructions for the install or was it just a case as doing exactly the same but missing out the SW load step. Following on from the question I asked about my software already being at 4.76 he didn't send me the software disc, just the 4 map discs and a usb stick so it was the same instructions as the others but misses out the software upgrade and starts with plugging in the USB. What I did was: Ignition on Plug in USB for 3 mins (instructions from Lukas were 'more or less a minute') It said something like no music files found or something like that but there's no indication that it's actually doing anything with the files on the stick. Remove stick and lock car for at least an hour (I left it an hour and a quarter) Connect charger to positive battery terminal and negative chassis post and switch ignition on Insert disc 1 - it restarted the PCM 2 or 3 times and then said it aborted the upgrade due to some sort of error that I can't quite remember so I just put it in again and it started loading (it might have restarted the PCM again, not sure?) Put in the other 3 discs when it asks for them then it says something like navigation updated to X.X.X - Confirm Tap Confirm and job done. I pressed 'MAP' button and it showed 'Loading Maps' for several mins then shows the map screen with the sky image at the top but no roads at all until I'd driven a few yards then they all pop up and all is well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenman Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, Buzzfox said: Following on from the question I asked about my software already being at 4.76 he didn't send me the software disc, just the 4 map discs and a usb stick so it was the same instructions as the others but misses out the software upgrade and starts with plugging in the USB. What I did was: Ignition on Plug in USB for 3 mins (instructions from Lukas were 'more or less a minute') It said something like no music files found or something like that but there's no indication that it's actually doing anything with the files on the stick. Remove stick and lock car for at least an hour (I left it an hour and a quarter) Connect charger to positive battery terminal and negative chassis post and switch ignition on Insert disc 1 - it restarted the PCM 2 or 3 times and then said it aborted the upgrade due to some sort of error that I can't quite remember so I just put it in again and it started loading (it might have restarted the PCM again, not sure?) Put in the other 3 discs when it asks for them then it says something like navigation updated to X.X.X - Confirm Tap Confirm and job done. I pressed 'MAP' button and it showed 'Loading Maps' for several mins then shows the map screen with the sky image at the top but no roads at all until I'd driven a few yards then they all pop up and all is well! Many thx, I might risk going for this myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSB Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 Hi Guys, Just to add a couple of extra points to what has already been said about the update. Have got a CTEK conditioner plugged into the car (early 2016 build) As mentioned previously, due to the fact I have already got software version 4.76 Lukas only sent the map updates plus the USB. Carried out the procedure with no problems whatsoever. When it was finished and disc 4 ejected the new maps were there ready to go. I have to say going by previous experiences I was really expecting a problem, but nothing of the sort. The only thing that I did do differently was sit in the car whilst the maps loaded (good excuse to read the handbook!!) I found that whilst the key which had been turned one notch to the right turned on the electrics, the car slowly started to shut itself down. So, all I did was open and close the door which delayed this process. Out of interest, once the maps were loaded I did leave the door open and the car slowly went through a shut down cycle which eventually switched off the PCM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyR Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 I also just bought the update from Navi-expert, all worked perfectly first time. I just plugged my CTEK charger in and let it get on with it, takes about 15 mins per disc, car did start shutting down but the PCM remained on while the update was loading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
718as Posted June 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 15mins per disc? , some are saying twice that, you must have a fast drive LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topradio Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 Yes Lukas does seem to have worked out how to correctly crack the codes. I was one of the early adopters and therefor a bit of a guinea pig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSB Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 Took me approximately 15 minutes per disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topradio Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 Mine was a little longer than that, perhaps half hour per disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zagamuffin Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 How much is this service lads ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyR Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 Link is here: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-2018-Maps-Update-for-PORSCHE-with-PCM-3-1-system/223476430325?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat haggis Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 I wonder if they have updated maps only for us pcm2.1. 987 cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Hamilton Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 40 minutes ago, fat haggis said: I wonder if they have updated maps only for us pcm2.1. 987 cars. The maps for 2.1 are still 2015. I think it was you who first gave me a copy. PM me if you want it back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat haggis Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 I’m ok for maps I updated my sport edition with them. It’s a pity no 2018 maps are avail for 2.1 cars. 😱 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araf Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 On 6/20/2019 at 1:52 PM, fat haggis said: I’m ok for maps I updated my sport edition with them. It’s a pity no 2018 maps are avail for 2.1 cars. 😱 Does anyone know which mapping system Porsche uses? Aston owners used to use Volvo map updates as a cheaper option and I can't believe Porsche have a unique programme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon61 Posted June 22, 2019 Report Share Posted June 22, 2019 On 6/21/2019 at 3:29 PM, Araf said: Does anyone know which mapping system Porsche uses? I noticed that the 5th photo in the Ebay listing (linked again a few posts ago) shows that the back of the dvd folder says "(c) HERE", so it looks as if it's HERE Maps, which used to be Nokia Maps - a pretty good mapping database which used to be the basis for the free app from Nokia that allowed to to download detailed maps and use them entirely offline, even for navigation. I never understood how it wasn't better-known; the app interface wasn't the best, but if you had a memory card big enough, you could download street-level detail maps of half the world and use them without any data connection at all. I'm not sure who owns it nowadays after the Nokia-Microsoft-buyout deals of the last 10 years, but I thought it was interesting that it's what Porsche chose to use. Strangely, though, the Nokia/HERE database had excellent maps of everywhere I've ever been apart from Japan, which I assume is an important market for Porsche, so I assume they use another supplier for that territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karey Posted September 1, 2019 Report Share Posted September 1, 2019 Its interesting that this is a .sh file - PCM 3.1 is a QNX based system and I thought that the USB did not allow executing of .sh (shell script) files. But looking at your posts this is possible. Can you please let me know the names of the .sh files? Did they all have the same name? Wondering if any of the users can attach one of the files (after removing/masking any VIN references) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul P Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 23 hours ago, Karey said: Its interesting that this is a .sh file - PCM 3.1 is a QNX based system and I thought that the USB did not allow executing of .sh (shell script) files. But looking at your posts this is possible. Can you please let me know the names of the .sh files? Did they all have the same name? Wondering if any of the users can attach one of the files (after removing/masking any VIN references) Not at home at the moment so nothing to hand. But a couple of the folks who did this sent me the .sh files they are unreadable. (As in encrypted/ encoded rather than “its all Greek to me “. There’s very little readable text in them. Only think I found was what looked like the product key. Also. They are very different between users, I.e. not just a block of chars that are different. Again Suggests they are encrypted in some way ( perhaps seeded against the VIN) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karey Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Paul P said: Not at home at the moment so nothing to hand. But a couple of the folks who did this sent me the .sh files they are unreadable. (As in encrypted/ encoded rather than “its all Greek to me “. There’s very little readable text in them. Only think I found was what looked like the product key. Also. They are very different between users, I.e. not just a block of chars that are different. Again Suggests they are encrypted in some way ( perhaps seeded against the VIN) Thanks Paul.. if you look at Touareg or Audi forums folks have used similar technique where they use a file called copie_scr.sh to trigger the execution of a few updates to their nav and I think the operating system for those systems is the same as pcm3.1. For that file there are encode and decide utilities online too..basically the shell script is encoded with a different character set. When you get a chance can you please confirm if the filename is consistent in the files you got and if it's the name I mention or another filename? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul P Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, Karey said: Thanks Paul.. if you look at Touareg or Audi forums folks have used similar technique where they use a file called copie_scr.sh to trigger the execution of a few updates to their nav and I think the operating system for those systems is the same as pcm3.1. For that file there are encode and decide utilities online too..basically the shell script is encoded with a different character set. When you get a chance can you please confirm if the filename is consistent in the files you got and if it's the name I mention or another filename? Pretty sure that’s the one. (Not anywhere near a real computer for the next week so can’t check for sure All conjecture for me since I have a pcm 3.0 and I think it’s different for that unit but I am by nature inquisitive and like to know how these things work. Not sure if that script actually does any code generation since I am pretty sure that the supplier buys his codes from somewhere else and this is just the “launch” mechanism so you don’t need a piwis device. All guess work I have to say but the vw angle is interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karey Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 19 minutes ago, Paul P said: Pretty sure that’s the one. (Not anywhere near a real computer for the next week so can’t check for sure All conjecture for me since I have a pcm 3.0 and I think it’s different for that unit but I am by nature inquisitive and like to know how these things work. Not sure if that script actually does any code generation since I am pretty sure that the supplier buys his codes from somewhere else and this is just the “launch” mechanism so you don’t need a piwis device. All guess work I have to say but the vw angle is interesting Afaik, the 3.1 builds on 3.0 from a software perspective..so the codebase has a lot of similarities. I think the maps may be the same as well though installation/ activation procedures may differ. Agreewith you that this script is a launch mechanism and that is why I am interested as I want to trigger a diagnostic command on my navigation hard drive without need for piwis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Hamilton Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 I think the Audi systems are quite different. I have updated botf my wife's A1 and my RSQ3 to the latest maps, and used an identical dodgy .sh activation script for both units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenman Posted November 4, 2019 Report Share Posted November 4, 2019 Just to say today I updated my SatNav as per the above from discs supplied as in the link above. I did have a few issues though: initially on inserting disc1 it came back with an error 1011 ... something about not having permissions to update database. I tried again with same result. So I tried inserting the usb again, waited a couple of minutes, locked car, waited over an hour, etc then inserted disc1 ....Note when you insert disk one it seems to switch to radio mode (fm) and you get a message saying somthing like “no readable files on disc”, previously I had pressed the media button and switched to dvd to then see a message “map updates aborted” with option to eject disk..which I did. This time I just left it on the radio screen and after about a minute the disc1 maps started loading. Took about 20 mins per disk. I did have to go out whilst disk4 had just started loading so I just started up and drove, all carried on as before. Note- there is some inconsistency between discs on the progress bar, disks 1/3 were nice and even in progressing 0-100%, disc 2 quickly jumped to 25% then slowly up to 100. Disk 4 jumped straight to 25% stayed there for 15-20 minuted then just completed. Note2 - a new road near me that opened this time last year is not on the maps, these are said to be a mid2018 mapping so I guess that is to be expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz05 Posted November 4, 2019 Report Share Posted November 4, 2019 Thanks Greenman I'm waiting for the next release as there some new roads I want to be included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Hamilton Posted November 4, 2019 Report Share Posted November 4, 2019 It took 3 years for the last update, so you are likely to have to wait about 2 years for the next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennyfin73 Posted November 4, 2019 Report Share Posted November 4, 2019 What discs are compatible with PCM 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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